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Madrid (A) 15/03/23

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Delusion. He kept praising and talking up his players to an extent where he genuinely seems to believe they're this great.
In would say it’s delusion to think what he says in front of the cameras is the same as behind closed doors.
 
Virgil probably could tbh. But just like if you played maldini or Silva in a high line, they'll get bent over.

We cannot play a high line with anyone over 28 I reckon

He's not finished by any means. He's just human now. And we can't expect him to play like he did 3 years ago and before a serious knee injury.

Players playing at such a high level for so long are freaks, so just expecting our players to do it and maintain previous levels way past a traditional peak is just blind, probably misplaced, faith.
 
He's not finished by any means. He's just human now. And we can't expect him to play like he did 3 years ago and before a serious knee injury.

Players playing at such a high level for so long are freaks, so just expecting our players to do it and maintain previous levels way past a traditional peak is just blind, probably misplaced, faith.

True enough, there every rational reason why Virgil will probably be shite in 2 years.

I think we scupper our own players with how we play. We need to constantly cycle them out like city do.
 
Where to begin...
Jota,Zunez,Gakpo,Salah...
Start any of the three, not all four I would have understood if we had Thiago Fit and was playing him instead of Milner atleast we would have had someone who could create something, but no, Klopp goes with four stikers and two defensive midfielder...

The subs.... Take off Jota...Yes the right move, But,why O' why take off Nunez...??. Bobby was good three seasons ago, bad is hardly the player he once was.

Team wise, to many side ways and backward passes, No creativity. A lack of forward thrust,intensity and ambisition, and belief Liverpool could turn it around, Almost as if the team has stopped believing in Klopp
 
He's done. He's only going to get worse.

Unless he's willing to adjust his game to the reality of life post Pickford, I would move on from him.
He's just not been as good a leader as I expected either - we really needed him this year, and like far too many this year, they just didn't fight. Miss winners like mane etc
 
True enough, there every rational reason why Virgil will probably be shite in 2 years.

I think we scupper our own players with how we play. We need to constantly cycle them out like city do.

Definitely. We need a complete rebuild of the team if we're gonna carry on playing this way. Fuck knows what's happened to Trent. He's never been an amazing defender, but his attitude is fucking awful this season.
 
Unless he's willing to adjust his game to the reality of life post Pickford, I would move on from him.
He's just not been as good a leader as I expected either - we really needed him this year, and like far too many this year, they just didn't fight. Miss winners like mane etc

This team are full of winners as they've won every major trophy.

But they definitely are missing some of that hunger and drive
 
Definitely. We need a complete rebuild of the team if we're gonna carry on playing this way. Fuck knows what's happened to Trent. He's never been an amazing defender, but his attitude is fucking awful this season.

Yah Trent has really let himself down.
Maybe it will motivate him for next year's europa League run
 
Not recycling and re-building has been a terrible error. Unless you're Chelsea with limitless funds, you cash in and add new blood. We've not done that. Now we're facing losing players for free or selling at bottom value. I know we nearly won it all last year but this year has been a disaster. There's no limit as to who you could get rid of. We're not in the space of losing 2 and adding 2 to remedy this, we need a lot of new blood.
 
Or treat it like the carabao. Nothing but squaddies until the final
I'd be embarrassed as a fan if we played in that shit....I don't mean to disrespect the comp (maybe a little) but comps like that wasn't built for clubs like Liverpool....Fulham or Brentford would love it, or maybe give it to some plastic club like Chelsea/.
 
I'd be embarrassed as a fan if we played in that shit....I don't mean to disrespect the comp (maybe a little) but comps like that wasn't built for clubs like Liverpool....Fulham or Brentford would love it, or maybe give it to some plastic club like Chelsea/.

I mean, we've not won it. So may as well complete the set of we HAVE to be in it
 
Watch how often it use to happen with him passing to Mane

See I think that opinion was overplayed; and it was less he couldn't pass to mane, more that he wouldn't.

Now he's consistently not finding people with passes
 
Hunger and drive are what makes you a winner ... lose that and what are you?

Those things don't make you a winner but they certainly help

Let's see if Klopp can still find it in the players he wants to keep.

And if he can't, will he move them on and replace them... that's my only question mark with Klopp
 
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