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Luis Suarez is Europe’s £30million wanted man

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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48193.msg1461398#msg1461398 date=1326226232]
If I was him I'd leave and go to a better team.
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Can I ask why? (just curious - not attacking you or anything. Hope your toes are feeling better)
 
Because we're not going to be a force for at least another two of three years.

And in the mean time he'll receive no end of abuse from opposing fans in England.

Depends who comes in for him I guess, but I can see why he would consider it.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=48193.msg1461402#msg1461402 date=1326226581]
Because we're not going to be a force for at least another two of three years.

And in the mean time he'll receive no end of abuse from opposing fans in England.

Depends who comes in for him I guess, but I can see why he would consider it.
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I dunno mate - I still have the feeling that some players still play the games for 'love' and still have an attachment to the club etc ... I know it's rare, and footy is a business, but I get the feeling Suarez wants to be a part of this club for the long term before moving on to Barcelona/Real (as is the dream of most of these Spanish speaking kids).
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48193.msg1461398#msg1461398 date=1326226232]
If I was him I'd leave and go to a better team.
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Can I ask why? (just curious - not attacking you or anything. Hope your toes are feeling better)
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So we can become even shitter and then we can all have a good old moan. Its much more fun.
 
I'd also hazard a guess that he's not the kind of person to accept being effectively run out of town by all this nonsense.
 
Maybe, I dunno. I thought Torres 'got us' - we all did.

Hope you're right though.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=48193.msg1461410#msg1461410 date=1326226878]
Maybe, I dunno. I thought Torres 'got us' - we all did.

Hope you're right though.
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Torres, as Ryan pestered us about during his last few seasons and was clearly on display during the WC, was a 'me' first player. He wanted to do well for himself. I just don't see Suarez that way ... Maybe he is, he hasn't given us an opportunity to see him in that light, but I currently don't see it. I'm hoping he stays - b/c I want Liverpool's glory days to return with him leading the pack.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=48193.msg1461410#msg1461410 date=1326226878]
Maybe, I dunno. I thought Torres 'got us' - we all did.

Hope you're right though.
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torres did get us. he got that we never buy top class players when we need them.
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=48193.msg1461410#msg1461410 date=1326226878]
Maybe, I dunno. I thought Torres 'got us' - we all did.

Hope you're right though.
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Torres did get us. he got that we never buy top class players when we need them.
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Neither do Chelsea.
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=48193.msg1461410#msg1461410 date=1326226878]
Maybe, I dunno. I thought Torres 'got us' - we all did.

Hope you're right though.
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Torres did get us. he got that we never buy top class players when we need them.
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Neither do Chelsea.
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they do it all the time. they've had a bizarre amount of unexpected failures though.
 
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=48193.msg1461412#msg1461412 date=1326227046]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=48193.msg1461410#msg1461410 date=1326226878]
Maybe, I dunno. I thought Torres 'got us' - we all did.

Hope you're right though.
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Torres did get us. he got that we never buy top class players when we need them.
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That must have been a blow to his ego.
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=48193.msg1461410#msg1461410 date=1326226878]
Maybe, I dunno. I thought Torres 'got us' - we all did.

Hope you're right though.
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Torres did get us. he got that we never buy top class players when we need them.
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Apart from just before he left that is
 
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[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=48193.msg1461412#msg1461412 date=1326227046]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=48193.msg1461410#msg1461410 date=1326226878]
Maybe, I dunno. I thought Torres 'got us' - we all did.

Hope you're right though.
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Torres did get us. he got that we never buy top class players when we need them.
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Apart from just before he left that is
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too little too late imo.
 
i love seeing him fail but i honestly understood why he left. he wouldn't have left atletico if he was the person people expected him to be.
 
The most we can hope for from a player of his ability is two seasons before Real or Barca start calling.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48193.msg1461398#msg1461398 date=1326226232]
If I was him I'd leave and go to a better team.
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Can I ask why? (just curious - not attacking you or anything. Hope your toes are feeling better)
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Well, he deserves to be playing in the Champions league and he's not going to get that with us.
He deserves to be on the verge of winning things, he's not gonna get that with us.
He should and could be playing with better players.
He's gonna have a pretty hard time in England over the next year anyway.
He is good enough for any of the top top clubs in Europe.

Basically the only valid reason for him staying is sentiment and an attachment to the club, which most players these days don't have.
 
we'll sign a load of plodders until he leaves and then get another star. and the cycle will begin again.
 
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=48193.msg1461400#msg1461400 date=1326226441]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48193.msg1461398#msg1461398 date=1326226232]
If I was him I'd leave and go to a better team.
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Can I ask why? (just curious - not attacking you or anything. Hope your toes are feeling better)
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Well, he deserves to be playing in the Champions league and he's not going to get that with us.
He deserves to be on the verge of winning things, he's not gonna get that with us.
He should and could be playing with better players.
He's gonna have a pretty hard time in England over the next year anyway.
He is good enough for any of the top top clubs in Europe.

Basically the only valid reason for him staying is sentiment and an attachment to the club, which most players these days don't have.
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Especially after 7 months.

I think he enjoys being part of something, if, a big if at that, he plays with us and is the main man in us getting into the champions league and us winning things, it'll be a lot sweeter. That said, if Madrid made a serious offer for him, I doubt he'd be too upset.
 
He's already had that 'on the verge of building something big' thing with Ajax. He came to us for that next step forward, in reality it's been a step sideways.
 
if we don't start acting like a top club then we can't expect to be keeping this kind of player. unless they're scouse.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48193.msg1461979#msg1461979 date=1326300783]
He's already had that 'on the verge of building something big' thing with Ajax. He came to us for that next step forward, in reality it's been a step sideways.
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Sideways is a bit ott, from the Eredivise to the Premier league is a step forward. Rwgarding challenging for hounours its actually a step backwards at the moment.
 
Players only have to look at Ronaldo getting booed the last few games at Madrid to see you don't get loved anywhere like you do here.

Whether that matters to them depends on the personality type I guess.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48193.msg1461398#msg1461398 date=1326226232]
If I was him I'd leave and go to a better team.
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Can I ask why? (just curious - not attacking you or anything. Hope your toes are feeling better)
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He deserves to be on the verge of winning things, he's not gonna get that with us.

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Yeah, spot on there Ryan.
 
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