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Liverpool related transfer speculation
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I want a CB who can come in and we don't see a drop off when Konate or VVD aren't playing and I want a LB who isn't going to be a liability and is better than Tsimikas. A CDM would be nice but knowing we have limited funds, I think Endo could do a job and the position can be addressed in the summer
Like when Matip was around.
Gomez is supposed to be that man.
Oh I see so that's the new FSG excuse - thanks @Shadey
@Modo - I know its not January - but don't we have to woo them - get them in early - show them around the ground, training facilities, the area where they might think about living, and meeting potential team-mates etc.. give them a few days to make their minds up and sign on the dotted line ?
Seriously?
They can just take a quick peek at the league table and the CL table.
Gomez has been excellent since replacing Konate and Quansah has already provided evidence that he can come in and do an excellent job (albeit last season).
In all honesty, I wouldn’t be signing a CB until I know for sure that Virgil is leaving… or I’d be signing someone young who I wouldn’t expect to play.
The LB is an interesting one, because I seem to rate Tsimikas much higher than you and view him as good cover or indeed competition for a declining Robbo. I think there’s enough there to get us through to the end of the season.
The question is, IF you could land Alphonso Davies on a free at the end of the season, would it be worth sticking with Robbo & Tsimikas with the option of one of the younger LB’s getting a back up spot next season?
Or do you bring in Kerkez at a Premium cost now and try to give game time to all 3 LBs, knowing you could get him in the summer without possibly having to pay as much of a premium?
Or do you sign a Hato and either leave him at Ajax, loan him out in England or hardly play him, because he’s unlikely to be as good as Robbo or Tsimikas at this point in time?
Robinson is the other one linked - but I don’t see us paying the amount he’d cost for someone that would be 28 at the start of next season - we just don’t do that.
Might not be enough - you know - some people are so addicted to mountains and the view - we have to win them over using some of our other assets.
We weren’t top of all the tables when we were trying to woo him.
There isn’t a player in the world that wouldn’t want to join us - that’s also our leverage in telling those that want to join us AND want ridiculous wages.
The hard thing is convincing a club to sell what would likely be one of their best players in the middle of season.
We’re looking for release clauses and clubs that need to sell or that aren’t trying take the piss with transfer fees - but only applying that to the few realistic players that would actually make us better.
I think if we’re signing anyone this window - it’s likely to be young talent that isn’t expected to feature this season.
So in the time Konate has been injured in your view has Quansah and Gomez assured you that they can do the job? Because after end Jan, if Konate or VVD get seriously injured, there is no transfer window. Also, Gomez doesn't have a track of staying consistently fit
That's why I said "supposed to".
Gomez and Jones are both in the same boat for me. Both very capable player, but I can't trust them.
Unlucky that our breasts are small and humble, so he doesn't confuse them for mountains.
I agree that there are very few players in world football that will improve our squad.
What a great time to sign players. The club looks super attractive right now and we don’t have to work as hard or spend as much potentially to bring in.
If we are to keep things fresh as players age out…
LB is definitely a factor.
A Flexible DM too as we are dependent on GRBR
Nunez/Diogo replacements also needed
Any academy players that could help rise in those positions?
LB? Who?
DM?Stefan Bajčetić?
CF - can Danns step up?
If we are to keep things fresh as players age out…
LB is definitely a factor.
A Flexible DM too as we are dependent on GRBR
Nunez/Diogo replacements also needed
Any academy players that could help rise in those positions?
LB? Who?
DM?Stefan Bajčetić?
CF - can Danns step up?
You are having a laugh ain't you ? - we never signed anyone after we won CL - and we have won nothing so far.
I cringe every time I hear her sing that. I know it's a song translated from Spanish but fucking hell, humble breasts?
If we compare how many we goals we conceded with Konate in the squad and then without, how is he (Gomez) an adequate replacement? Yeah, he can be the 4th choice CB, I want a 3rd choice CB who can compete with VVD and Konate.
Robbo, thank you for your service but its time you seek new challenges.
CBs that are interesting me at the moment are Loic Bade and Cristian Mosquera. LB, its Hato, Maxim De Cuyper, or Mitchell from Palace. I would sell Robbo, I would let who ever we buy compete with Tsimi.
Come summer, I would assess Owen Beck and consider selling Tsimi too.
I have only see a few minutes of Owen Beck - last season - and I thought he was good enough !!! Apart from the Newcastle game - i cannot really blame Gomez directly for the goals we have conceded - so it could be a case that Ibou puts out fires before they have a chance to start. But you are right - we need another backup CB, and a Robbo should not be starting now at all. I think there maybe a problem with Tsimi that is stopping Slot starting him OR we are really going to sell him on this January window (and actually get a replacement) so he is not risking playing him.
It was just a small Spanish tit. Til it ran into Haaland
I’d want to know more about Bade’s time at Forest.
Sevilla have a goal difference of -7, are you sure he’s better than Gomez, if we’re talking about home many goals a team have conceded - they’re currently 24th in La Liga… which I suppose is better than Valencia who are 19th with a -10 goal difference.
I can’t think of any of the goals we’ve conceded lately with Gomez in the side that are down to him, so no, I’m not sure we can easily say replacing him with defenders from teams with much worse defences automatically improves us.
I’d say both arrive and start behind Quansah for a game.
Don’t think Hato or de Cuyper are ready to hold down a starting place at Liverpool - again they’d be behind Tsimikas.
Wouldn’t be sure Mitchell is good enough or better than Tsimikas either.
All for signing the youngsters - but they’re not even making the bench in this team - don’t think Mitchell is good enough to be in the conversation.
So far all you provided is suggestions that reinforce the fact that we’re better sticking with what we have for this season at least.
I agree with most of that, but the only thing I can say about defenders is - you never know how good they if they play for mid-table or lower level teams without a decent midfield in front of them. Let's not forget we scored 6 past Southampton once with VVD in that team. So I guess its a case of identifying if those goals conceded were due to the specific defenders making the mistakes. But you are right - about Gomez - but have to say he had a stinker against Newcastle - it appeared too much for him.
If anyone thinks the whole backroom team won't be telling the board that we've got a chance to dominate for the next few years they want their head testing. It'll all be down to FSG, their wallet and ambition. The personnel we have at executive level are more than cabable.
Who would have thought Robbo an £8m signing would go on to become the best LB in the world? Now unfortunately that LB is no longer good enough. If Robbo goes, we need a replacement and that replacement would compete with Tsimi. So if they go behind Tsimi in the pecking order, it isn't an issue. Mitchell is better defensively than Tsimi and Tsimi is better going forward. I am not arguing in replacing tsimi in Jan but Robbo (and I gave a few names). Its your opinion that the 3 I mentioned would not add the same value as Robbo, I totally disagree.
As to CBs, I chose players that are fast, tall and strong. Quansah needs to go on loan to sort his mind out. I did not blame Gomez in particular but the absence of Konate was self evident. The reality is we won't know how good any defender will be until they arrive, I am willing to take that risk, you are not, and we know how that ended in previous seasons
Robbo’s not going anywhere in January and he’ll remain our first choice LB until such point as Tsimikas shows he’s better - and the Robbo will be our number 2.
His experience and leadership at the very least will be invaluable in the second half of the season - much more so than a teenager who’s never played in the Premier League or Crystal Palace’s LB who I didn’t know existed until you mentioned him.
I could be persuaded by Ketkez as he looks to have a high ceiling and is performing in the EPL - but possibly a window too early.
Quanssh out on loan isn’t going to “sort his head out” - if anything that would actually ruin him as a player - he needs to work hard in training and wait for his opportunity - which given the games we have coming up in January - CL, League Cup, FA Cup - means it’s a perfect time for him to rediscover his form.
Surely you see that January is when our fringe players - Tsimikas, Quansah, Elliot, Morton, Endo & Chiesa are going to be needed and likely utilised the most along with the likes of Bradley, Irish Kevin and likely a couple of kids like Nyoni, McConnell and Danns.
Konate’s due back in Jan so a replacement isn’t strictly necessary.
Have you actually stopped to consider that reason we’re doing so well is that we’re not trying to integrate many new players (Chiesa and Morton after 2 years on loan) and instead utilising a team that has been playing together mostly for several seasons (except Mac & Slobbers)?
The bench tonight was overflowing with talent and quality - we don’t need much more in the way of depth - I’d argue we’ve got the most complete squad in the league already.
We need a replacement for Endo, Robbo and “probably” Darwin - none of which we “need” this window.
Like I said, if one of our targets suddenly becomes available - then we’ll go for it - if you believe the rumours that would be Zubimendi, Kerkez & Joao Pedro.
If we can’t get them, I don’t want us going for Englands 8th choice LB at Crystal Palace or some kid having his first half decent spell in a mid tier Euro league like Portugal, Holland or Belgium just because some people covet other lesser teams players more than our own squad of very good players.
The Lake District is within commuting distance.
Yes… but the clue is in the name… it’s the LAKE district… not the MOUNTAIN district!!
And before you say… but there’s mountains there… they’re just big hills
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Let's assume Hughes has a list and I am willing to concede his list would have been created with far more in depth analysis then anyone in this forum would be able to create. My hope is he uses that list in Jan and gets a CB who can play LB or LB and CB. Konate may be back in Jan but for how long? Face it Robbo isn't good enough, I am not the only one saying it. I hope Hughes see it as well.
Quansah's issue is mental, and sending him out on loan could ease the mental burden as the stakes aren't so high.
If the club does not recruit a CB at least in Jan then we will find out towards May if that was the right decision.
Only problem is I can't see slot ever wanting a bobby type player.
We seem to be credibly linked to Joao Pedro and he’s a Bobby type too.
Fwiw, I’d love a Cunha / Pedro type in the squad.
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