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Which one? What fucking difference does it make
'Oh, it was at Gleneagles'
'Gleneagles? Redknapp *always* lies about Joe Cole when he's there. Now if it had been Royal Birkdale...'
'Oh, it was at Gleneagles'
'Gleneagles? Redknapp *always* lies about Joe Cole when he's there. Now if it had been Royal Birkdale...'
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40868.msg1133937#msg1133937 date=1278788248]
Which one? What fucking difference does it make
'Oh, it was at Gleneagles'
'Gleneagles? Redknapp *always* lies about Joe Cole when he's there. Now if it had been Royal Birkdale...'
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ha
Which one? What fucking difference does it make
'Oh, it was at Gleneagles'
'Gleneagles? Redknapp *always* lies about Joe Cole when he's there. Now if it had been Royal Birkdale...'
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ha
[quote author=ILD link=topic=40868.msg1133943#msg1133943 date=1278788983]
Presume it was the JP McManus invitational. It was on last week and Redknapp was there I think.
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I think thats about right. I read it over on RAWK and posted the info on here.
Presume it was the JP McManus invitational. It was on last week and Redknapp was there I think.
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I think thats about right. I read it over on RAWK and posted the info on here.
it makes sense for us to sign Cole and take a risk.
He's English and we need to boost our quota of English players. Would you rather have Cole or the lacklusture Wright Phillips for a fee plus a few grand less in wages and Milner is not available for a sensible fee either. There is a derth of available English talent so securing Cole for 3-4 years is an acceptable risk considering he's one of the best English players around
He's English and we need to boost our quota of English players. Would you rather have Cole or the lacklusture Wright Phillips for a fee plus a few grand less in wages and Milner is not available for a sensible fee either. There is a derth of available English talent so securing Cole for 3-4 years is an acceptable risk considering he's one of the best English players around
I'd be amazed if he signed for us and thoroughly confused if we paid him what's been suggested; we're already in enough debt surely?
Which is also spread across to term of his contract so no major initial outlay.
It seems to me we should be making him a very good offer, it seems a good opportunity, out of contract top class players come around rarely.
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It seems to me we should be making him a very good offer, it seems a good opportunity, out of contract top class players come around rarely.
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If Gerrard and Torres stay, I think he will.
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Gerrard and Torres staying, and Cole on a free. That would be a massive, massive boost before the season kicks off. IF we can get him, and add some other quality players. Then the season a head could be quite a good one.
If new owners arrived aswell, I'd die of the excitement.
If new owners arrived aswell, I'd die of the excitement.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40868.msg1134747#msg1134747 date=1278941695]
Gerrard and Torres staying, and Cole on a free. That would be a massive, massive boost before the season kicks off. IF we can get him, and add some other quality players. Then the season a head could be quite a good one.
If new owners arrived aswell, I'd die of the excitement.
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and if you factor in Paul Scharner signing, we're talking a proper jizz-fest.
Gerrard and Torres staying, and Cole on a free. That would be a massive, massive boost before the season kicks off. IF we can get him, and add some other quality players. Then the season a head could be quite a good one.
If new owners arrived aswell, I'd die of the excitement.
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and if you factor in Paul Scharner signing, we're talking a proper jizz-fest.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40868.msg1134752#msg1134752 date=1278943644]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40868.msg1134747#msg1134747 date=1278941695]
Gerrard and Torres staying, and Cole on a free. That would be a massive, massive boost before the season kicks off. IF we can get him, and add some other quality players. Then the season a head could be quite a good one.
If new owners arrived aswell, I'd die of the excitement.
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and if you factor in Paul Scharner signing, we're talking a proper jizz-fest.
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Don't want to get my hopes up just yet.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40868.msg1134747#msg1134747 date=1278941695]
Gerrard and Torres staying, and Cole on a free. That would be a massive, massive boost before the season kicks off. IF we can get him, and add some other quality players. Then the season a head could be quite a good one.
If new owners arrived aswell, I'd die of the excitement.
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and if you factor in Paul Scharner signing, we're talking a proper jizz-fest.
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Don't want to get my hopes up just yet.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=40868.msg1134758#msg1134758 date=1278944085]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40868.msg1134752#msg1134752 date=1278943644]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40868.msg1134747#msg1134747 date=1278941695]
Gerrard and Torres staying, and Cole on a free. That would be a massive, massive boost before the season kicks off. IF we can get him, and add some other quality players. Then the season a head could be quite a good one.
If new owners arrived aswell, I'd die of the excitement.
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and if you factor in Paul Scharner signing, we're talking a proper jizz-fest.
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Don't want to get my hopes up just yet.
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Wise. I got my hopes up on Ribery last year and it fucked with my head. If Scharner doesn't sign it'll result in therapy.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40868.msg1134752#msg1134752 date=1278943644]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40868.msg1134747#msg1134747 date=1278941695]
Gerrard and Torres staying, and Cole on a free. That would be a massive, massive boost before the season kicks off. IF we can get him, and add some other quality players. Then the season a head could be quite a good one.
If new owners arrived aswell, I'd die of the excitement.
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and if you factor in Paul Scharner signing, we're talking a proper jizz-fest.
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Don't want to get my hopes up just yet.
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Wise. I got my hopes up on Ribery last year and it fucked with my head. If Scharner doesn't sign it'll result in therapy.
I still can't see this happening.
I just don't see why he would want to join us in our current state. He could stay in London with Arsenal, or even Tottenham, why would he join a club in turmoil like ours? I can't see it.
He won't be joining us, and we won't be taken over by a middle eastern consortium any time soon.
*Hopes he has tempted fate enough for it to happen*
He won't be joining us, and we won't be taken over by a middle eastern consortium any time soon.
*Hopes he has tempted fate enough for it to happen*
There are actually plenty of reasons for Cole to come to LFC. The main reason he's leaving Chelsea is to get regular games at top level, and at Liverpool he'd be pretty much guaranteed those. Meanwhile Tottenham have only just broken into the CL spots and there's no guarantee they'll stay there, while the Arse's salary cap won't sit well with the money Cole will be after.
As for new owners - define "soon". Broughton's staked his reputation - which is vital for his career - on us being sold in a matter of months.
As for new owners - define "soon". Broughton's staked his reputation - which is vital for his career - on us being sold in a matter of months.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40868.msg1134775#msg1134775 date=1278946012]
There are actually plenty of reasons for Cole to come to LFC. The main reason he's leaving Chelsea is to get regular games at top level, and at Liverpool he'd be pretty much guaranteed those. Meanwhile Tottenham have only just broken into the CL spots and there's no guarantee they'll stay there, while the Arse's salary cap won't sit well with the money Cole will be after.
As for new owners - define "soon". Broughton's staked his reputation - which is vital for his career - on us being sold in a matter of months.
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Hmmm, he'd probably have more footballing reasons to join Spurs right now. Harry would play him, deffo, and they ARE in the CL, and look better equipped than us to stay in it/ reach it again.
As for the London issue, maybe he might fancy a change?
I dunno. Not that arsed either way. He's good, but not great. Not anymore anyway.
There are actually plenty of reasons for Cole to come to LFC. The main reason he's leaving Chelsea is to get regular games at top level, and at Liverpool he'd be pretty much guaranteed those. Meanwhile Tottenham have only just broken into the CL spots and there's no guarantee they'll stay there, while the Arse's salary cap won't sit well with the money Cole will be after.
As for new owners - define "soon". Broughton's staked his reputation - which is vital for his career - on us being sold in a matter of months.
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Hmmm, he'd probably have more footballing reasons to join Spurs right now. Harry would play him, deffo, and they ARE in the CL, and look better equipped than us to stay in it/ reach it again.
As for the London issue, maybe he might fancy a change?
I dunno. Not that arsed either way. He's good, but not great. Not anymore anyway.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40868.msg1134779#msg1134779 date=1278946191]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40868.msg1134775#msg1134775 date=1278946012]
There are actually plenty of reasons for Cole to come to LFC. The main reason he's leaving Chelsea is to get regular games at top level, and at Liverpool he'd be pretty much guaranteed those. Meanwhile Tottenham have only just broken into the CL spots and there's no guarantee they'll stay there, while the Arse's salary cap won't sit well with the money Cole will be after.
As for new owners - define "soon". Broughton's staked his reputation - which is vital for his career - on us being sold in a matter of months.
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Hmmm, he'd probably have more footballing reasons to join Spurs right now. Harry would play him, deffo, and they ARE in the CL, and look better equipped than us to stay in it/ reach it again.
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This for the footballing reasons. Especially with such recent uncertainty clouding Torres' and Gerrard's futures. If I was Cole I wouldn't look too favourably on joining a club whose two best players could be off as soon as I got there.
With regards to the new owners, I'm really just talking about the rumours doing the rounds at the moment that we'll be sold tomorrow or something silly. 15th of July was it?
Put it this way, if we were on the cusp of being taken over, I doubt the new owners would insist on having Roy Hodgson installed as manager. Nor do I think the current board would hire Hodgson if there was something in the pipeline.
I think the earliest time we might be taken over, and this is being overly optimistic, is around Christmas time.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40868.msg1134775#msg1134775 date=1278946012]
There are actually plenty of reasons for Cole to come to LFC. The main reason he's leaving Chelsea is to get regular games at top level, and at Liverpool he'd be pretty much guaranteed those. Meanwhile Tottenham have only just broken into the CL spots and there's no guarantee they'll stay there, while the Arse's salary cap won't sit well with the money Cole will be after.
As for new owners - define "soon". Broughton's staked his reputation - which is vital for his career - on us being sold in a matter of months.
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Hmmm, he'd probably have more footballing reasons to join Spurs right now. Harry would play him, deffo, and they ARE in the CL, and look better equipped than us to stay in it/ reach it again.
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This for the footballing reasons. Especially with such recent uncertainty clouding Torres' and Gerrard's futures. If I was Cole I wouldn't look too favourably on joining a club whose two best players could be off as soon as I got there.
With regards to the new owners, I'm really just talking about the rumours doing the rounds at the moment that we'll be sold tomorrow or something silly. 15th of July was it?
Put it this way, if we were on the cusp of being taken over, I doubt the new owners would insist on having Roy Hodgson installed as manager. Nor do I think the current board would hire Hodgson if there was something in the pipeline.
I think the earliest time we might be taken over, and this is being overly optimistic, is around Christmas time.
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=40868.msg1134766#msg1134766 date=1278945396]
I just don't see why he would want to join us in our current state. He could stay in London with Arsenal, or even Tottenham, why would he join a club in turmoil like ours? I can't see it.
He won't be joining us, and we won't be taken over by a middle eastern consortium any time soon.
*Hopes he has tempted fate enough for it to happen*
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The way things could be tipping over this last few days/weeks could be very positive.
A bit more clarity from Broughton and some interesting revelations.
Much more optimism over Gerrard and Torres, the talk of some of our more underwhelming being looked at by other teams at decent money. At the same time the squad being strengthened by a couple of decent frees in Jovanovic and Scharner. If Mascher goes we have money to spend in his ,and in other, areas, if he stays he is a world class player in his position. Roy has not spent any money yet, and we can buy a decent left back, and another striker.
I think Aqualani will show he has what it takes after the benefit of a full pre-season with us, and no WC distractions, which if it comes to pass would be like having a new top class signing.
Why would Cole not come to us, and if he does, he will replace Yossi, and we are stronger again?
On top of all that we are not worrying about what Rafa will do, or say next.
If the above happens we are in a stronger position than we were this time last year, and everyone was tipping us for great things then.
Downside this season is that City are really starting to come of age, (it didn't take long), so we are going to have to displace them or Arsenal if we want that fourth place, which was always going to be a task.
We really do need the sale to go ahead sooner rather than later
regards
I just don't see why he would want to join us in our current state. He could stay in London with Arsenal, or even Tottenham, why would he join a club in turmoil like ours? I can't see it.
He won't be joining us, and we won't be taken over by a middle eastern consortium any time soon.
*Hopes he has tempted fate enough for it to happen*
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The way things could be tipping over this last few days/weeks could be very positive.
A bit more clarity from Broughton and some interesting revelations.
Much more optimism over Gerrard and Torres, the talk of some of our more underwhelming being looked at by other teams at decent money. At the same time the squad being strengthened by a couple of decent frees in Jovanovic and Scharner. If Mascher goes we have money to spend in his ,and in other, areas, if he stays he is a world class player in his position. Roy has not spent any money yet, and we can buy a decent left back, and another striker.
I think Aqualani will show he has what it takes after the benefit of a full pre-season with us, and no WC distractions, which if it comes to pass would be like having a new top class signing.
Why would Cole not come to us, and if he does, he will replace Yossi, and we are stronger again?
On top of all that we are not worrying about what Rafa will do, or say next.
If the above happens we are in a stronger position than we were this time last year, and everyone was tipping us for great things then.
Downside this season is that City are really starting to come of age, (it didn't take long), so we are going to have to displace them or Arsenal if we want that fourth place, which was always going to be a task.
We really do need the sale to go ahead sooner rather than later
regards
Quite so.
Fair comments from Hal and Brendan there, but one of the reasons I'm not quite so sure Cole would play as often at Tottenham is that their squad is indeed better than ours just now. By the same token I don't think the gap is huge (I reckon just getting the best out of our existing players will largely close it), and Cole might fancy the kudos which would follow if he became a pivotal figure in our return to the CL.
"Good but not great" has probably always been an accurate summing-up of Cole's ability. IMO, though, he's very good indeed at his best, and - equally importantly - signing him would send out a message, not least to potential future signings, that we're still aiming high.
I'm not sure the question of hiring Roy is quite as simple as Hal makes out. I think the board wanted stability above all, not only for its own sake but also to make the club a more saleable-looking proposition. If that's right, they could well have thought Roy was the best option even if something had been in the works already (and I say that as someone who still thinks Kenny should have got the job pending new owners coming). Nor do I agree that foreseeing a sale around Christmas is overly optimistic, especially given the reports of RBS losing patience. In fact, if there HASN'T been a sale by then, I expect things to move quite swiftly in the New Year.
Fair comments from Hal and Brendan there, but one of the reasons I'm not quite so sure Cole would play as often at Tottenham is that their squad is indeed better than ours just now. By the same token I don't think the gap is huge (I reckon just getting the best out of our existing players will largely close it), and Cole might fancy the kudos which would follow if he became a pivotal figure in our return to the CL.
"Good but not great" has probably always been an accurate summing-up of Cole's ability. IMO, though, he's very good indeed at his best, and - equally importantly - signing him would send out a message, not least to potential future signings, that we're still aiming high.
I'm not sure the question of hiring Roy is quite as simple as Hal makes out. I think the board wanted stability above all, not only for its own sake but also to make the club a more saleable-looking proposition. If that's right, they could well have thought Roy was the best option even if something had been in the works already (and I say that as someone who still thinks Kenny should have got the job pending new owners coming). Nor do I agree that foreseeing a sale around Christmas is overly optimistic, especially given the reports of RBS losing patience. In fact, if there HASN'T been a sale by then, I expect things to move quite swiftly in the New Year.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40868.msg1134785#msg1134785 date=1278947333]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=40868.msg1134766#msg1134766 date=1278945396]
I just don't see why he would want to join us in our current state. He could stay in London with Arsenal, or even Tottenham, why would he join a club in turmoil like ours? I can't see it.
He won't be joining us, and we won't be taken over by a middle eastern consortium any time soon.
*Hopes he has tempted fate enough for it to happen*
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The way things could be tipping over this last few days/weeks could be very positive.
A bit more clarity from Broughton and some interesting revelations.
Much more optimism over Gerrard and Torres, the talk of some of our more underwhelming being looked at by other teams at decent money. At the same time the squad being strengthened by a couple of decent frees in Jovanovic and Scharner. If Mascher goes we have money to spend in his ,and in other, areas, if he stays he is a world class player in his position. Roy has not spent any money yet, and we can buy a decent left back, and another striker.
I think Aqualani will show he has what it takes after the benefit of a full pre-season with us, and no WC distractions, which if it comes to pass would be like having a new top class signing.
Why would Cole not come to us, and if he does, he will replace Yossi, and we are stronger again?
On top of all that we are not worrying about what Rafa will do, or say next.
If the above happens we are in a stronger position than we were this time last year, and everyone was tipping us for great things then.
Downside this season is that City are really starting to come of age, (it didn't take long), so we are going to have to displace them or Arsenal if we want that fourth place, which was always going to be a task.
We really do need the sale to go ahead sooner rather than later
yes sooner for sure
Yes, we need to turn that tide of positivity and we could be close. Still 60/40 though. Loved seeing Torres in our scarf, Roy's news on SG, and am hopeful we'll be sold soon. It's just that massive debt complicates all sale discussions, but we are still LFC, and hopefully a new transfer kitty with a new owner will shake things up.
regards
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[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=40868.msg1134766#msg1134766 date=1278945396]
I just don't see why he would want to join us in our current state. He could stay in London with Arsenal, or even Tottenham, why would he join a club in turmoil like ours? I can't see it.
He won't be joining us, and we won't be taken over by a middle eastern consortium any time soon.
*Hopes he has tempted fate enough for it to happen*
[/quote]
The way things could be tipping over this last few days/weeks could be very positive.
A bit more clarity from Broughton and some interesting revelations.
Much more optimism over Gerrard and Torres, the talk of some of our more underwhelming being looked at by other teams at decent money. At the same time the squad being strengthened by a couple of decent frees in Jovanovic and Scharner. If Mascher goes we have money to spend in his ,and in other, areas, if he stays he is a world class player in his position. Roy has not spent any money yet, and we can buy a decent left back, and another striker.
I think Aqualani will show he has what it takes after the benefit of a full pre-season with us, and no WC distractions, which if it comes to pass would be like having a new top class signing.
Why would Cole not come to us, and if he does, he will replace Yossi, and we are stronger again?
On top of all that we are not worrying about what Rafa will do, or say next.
If the above happens we are in a stronger position than we were this time last year, and everyone was tipping us for great things then.
Downside this season is that City are really starting to come of age, (it didn't take long), so we are going to have to displace them or Arsenal if we want that fourth place, which was always going to be a task.
We really do need the sale to go ahead sooner rather than later
yes sooner for sure
Yes, we need to turn that tide of positivity and we could be close. Still 60/40 though. Loved seeing Torres in our scarf, Roy's news on SG, and am hopeful we'll be sold soon. It's just that massive debt complicates all sale discussions, but we are still LFC, and hopefully a new transfer kitty with a new owner will shake things up.
regards
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