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Yeah fuck you, you dog walkers. How dare you go out in The Lying Rag. Bloody liberty takers.
Who got the goals?
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221717#msg1221717 date=1290321043]
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
Well, a little more balance.
What's the point in a league where:
1. The top two are well known before the season starts
2. They only drop the occasional against any non-top-two side and finish the league with 90%+ of the maximum points.
3. The budget of the top two is way above that of the others
4. They get astronomical chunks of the TV deals
5. They have most of the top players in the league (and whenever another club possesses a "newly discovered top player" they're quick to lay their hands on him)
and I could probably go on an on and on.
So what's the point of supporting any team other than the top two?
So is the EPL well balanced? - probably not as balanced as it should be.
Is it better balanced than La Liga? I think it is. look at the top of the EPL and you'll find 6 top clubs (excuse me for including LFC).
Hope the point of my comment is clearer now.
What's the point in a league where:
1. The top two are well known before the season starts
2. They only drop the occasional against any non-top-two side and finish the league with 90%+ of the maximum points.
3. The budget of the top two is way above that of the others
4. They get astronomical chunks of the TV deals
5. They have most of the top players in the league (and whenever another club possesses a "newly discovered top player" they're quick to lay their hands on him)
and I could probably go on an on and on.
So what's the point of supporting any team other than the top two?
So is the EPL well balanced? - probably not as balanced as it should be.
Is it better balanced than La Liga? I think it is. look at the top of the EPL and you'll find 6 top clubs (excuse me for including LFC).
Hope the point of my comment is clearer now.
[quote author=themn link=topic=42868.msg1221675#msg1221675 date=1290294221]
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=42868.msg1221670#msg1221670 date=1290293688]
Who got the goals?
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Barcelona.
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THEMN! Always with the wisecracks!
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=42868.msg1221670#msg1221670 date=1290293688]
Who got the goals?
[/quote]
Barcelona.
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THEMN! Always with the wisecracks!
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221725#msg1221725 date=1290325757]
Well, a little more balance.
What's the point in a league where:
1. The top two are well known before the season starts
2. They only drop the occasional against any non-top-two side and finish the league with 90%+ of the maximum points.
3. The budget of the top two is way above that of the others
4. They get astronomical chunks of the TV deals
5. They have most of the top players in the league (and whenever another club possesses a "newly discovered top player" they're quick to lay their hands on him)
and I could probably go on an on and on.
So what's the point of supporting any team other than the top two?
So is the EPL well balanced? - probably not as balanced as it should be.
Is it better balanced than La Liga? I think it is. look at the top of the EPL and you'll find 6 top clubs (excuse me for including LFC).
Hope the point of my comment is clearer now.
[/quote]
They should consider having two Barcelona and RMadrid teams in the league then, then there'd be a top 4? At least the budget would be a bit more even? ;D
Not too sure how much sense that made but yeah.
Well, a little more balance.
What's the point in a league where:
1. The top two are well known before the season starts
2. They only drop the occasional against any non-top-two side and finish the league with 90%+ of the maximum points.
3. The budget of the top two is way above that of the others
4. They get astronomical chunks of the TV deals
5. They have most of the top players in the league (and whenever another club possesses a "newly discovered top player" they're quick to lay their hands on him)
and I could probably go on an on and on.
So what's the point of supporting any team other than the top two?
So is the EPL well balanced? - probably not as balanced as it should be.
Is it better balanced than La Liga? I think it is. look at the top of the EPL and you'll find 6 top clubs (excuse me for including LFC).
Hope the point of my comment is clearer now.
[/quote]
They should consider having two Barcelona and RMadrid teams in the league then, then there'd be a top 4? At least the budget would be a bit more even? ;D
Not too sure how much sense that made but yeah.
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=42868.msg1221722#msg1221722 date=1290325097]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221717#msg1221717 date=1290321043]
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
[/quote]
The EPL is much more balanced than any of the other leagues, besides the German.
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221717#msg1221717 date=1290321043]
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
[/quote]
The EPL is much more balanced than any of the other leagues, besides the German.
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=42868.msg1221822#msg1221822 date=1290348227]
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=42868.msg1221722#msg1221722 date=1290325097]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221717#msg1221717 date=1290321043]
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
[/quote]
The EPL is much more balanced than any of the other leagues, besides the German.
[/quote]
The French league? Brest were top until yesterday! Who are they?
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=42868.msg1221722#msg1221722 date=1290325097]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221717#msg1221717 date=1290321043]
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
[/quote]
The EPL is much more balanced than any of the other leagues, besides the German.
[/quote]
The French league? Brest were top until yesterday! Who are they?
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=42868.msg1221822#msg1221822 date=1290348227]
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=42868.msg1221722#msg1221722 date=1290325097]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221717#msg1221717 date=1290321043]
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
[/quote]
The EPL is much more balanced than any of the other leagues, besides the German.
[/quote]
How is it much more balanced?
Are we judging balanced on the amount of teams that can challenge for the title?
SPain 2
Italy 3
England 3? ( Who really thinks it's going to be between anyone other then Manu or Chelsea?)
Germany and France have several.
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=42868.msg1221722#msg1221722 date=1290325097]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221717#msg1221717 date=1290321043]
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
[/quote]
The EPL is much more balanced than any of the other leagues, besides the German.
[/quote]
How is it much more balanced?
Are we judging balanced on the amount of teams that can challenge for the title?
SPain 2
Italy 3
England 3? ( Who really thinks it's going to be between anyone other then Manu or Chelsea?)
Germany and France have several.
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=42868.msg1221823#msg1221823 date=1290348547]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=42868.msg1221822#msg1221822 date=1290348227]
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=42868.msg1221722#msg1221722 date=1290325097]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221717#msg1221717 date=1290321043]
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
[/quote]
The EPL is much more balanced than any of the other leagues, besides the German.
[/quote]
The French league? Brest were top until yesterday! Who are they?
[/quote]*Snigger*
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=42868.msg1221822#msg1221822 date=1290348227]
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=42868.msg1221722#msg1221722 date=1290325097]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221717#msg1221717 date=1290321043]
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
[/quote]
The EPL is much more balanced than any of the other leagues, besides the German.
[/quote]
The French league? Brest were top until yesterday! Who are they?
[/quote]*Snigger*
I assume he means because it is far more likely that any team can beat another.
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221725#msg1221725 date=1290325757]
Well, a little more balance.
What's the point in a league where:
1. The top two are well known before the season starts
2. They only drop the occasional against any non-top-two side and finish the league with 90%+ of the maximum points.
3. The budget of the top two is way above that of the others
4. They get astronomical chunks of the TV deals
5. They have most of the top players in the league (and whenever another club possesses a "newly discovered top player" they're quick to lay their hands on him)
and I could probably go on an on and on.
So what's the point of supporting any team other than the top two?
So is the EPL well balanced? - probably not as balanced as it should be.
Is it better balanced than La Liga? I think it is. look at the top of the EPL and you'll find 6 top clubs (excuse me for including LFC).
Hope the point of my comment is clearer now.
[/quote]
1992–93 Manchester United
1993–94 Manchester United
1994–95 Blackburn Rovers
1995–96 Manchester United
1996–97 Manchester United
1997–98 Arsenal
1998–99 Manchester United
1999–00 Manchester United
2000–01 Manchester United
2001–02 Arsenal
2002–03 Manchester United
2003–04 Arsenal
2004–05 Chelsea
2005–06 Chelsea
2006–07 Manchester United
2007–08 Manchester United
2008–09 Manchester United
2009–10 Chelsea
1992–93 Barcelona
1993–94 Barcelona
1994–95 Real Madrid
1995–96 Atlético Madrid
1996–97 Real Madrid
1997–98 Barcelona
1998–99 Barcelona
1999–00 Deportivo La Coruña
2000–01 Real Madrid
2001–02 Valencia
2002–03 Real Madrid
2003–04 Valencia
2004–05 Barcelona
2005–06 Barcelona
2006–07 Real Madrid
2007–08 Real Madrid
2008–09 Barcelona
2009–10 Barcelona
Well, a little more balance.
What's the point in a league where:
1. The top two are well known before the season starts
2. They only drop the occasional against any non-top-two side and finish the league with 90%+ of the maximum points.
3. The budget of the top two is way above that of the others
4. They get astronomical chunks of the TV deals
5. They have most of the top players in the league (and whenever another club possesses a "newly discovered top player" they're quick to lay their hands on him)
and I could probably go on an on and on.
So what's the point of supporting any team other than the top two?
So is the EPL well balanced? - probably not as balanced as it should be.
Is it better balanced than La Liga? I think it is. look at the top of the EPL and you'll find 6 top clubs (excuse me for including LFC).
Hope the point of my comment is clearer now.
[/quote]
1992–93 Manchester United
1993–94 Manchester United
1994–95 Blackburn Rovers
1995–96 Manchester United
1996–97 Manchester United
1997–98 Arsenal
1998–99 Manchester United
1999–00 Manchester United
2000–01 Manchester United
2001–02 Arsenal
2002–03 Manchester United
2003–04 Arsenal
2004–05 Chelsea
2005–06 Chelsea
2006–07 Manchester United
2007–08 Manchester United
2008–09 Manchester United
2009–10 Chelsea
1992–93 Barcelona
1993–94 Barcelona
1994–95 Real Madrid
1995–96 Atlético Madrid
1996–97 Real Madrid
1997–98 Barcelona
1998–99 Barcelona
1999–00 Deportivo La Coruña
2000–01 Real Madrid
2001–02 Valencia
2002–03 Real Madrid
2003–04 Valencia
2004–05 Barcelona
2005–06 Barcelona
2006–07 Real Madrid
2007–08 Real Madrid
2008–09 Barcelona
2009–10 Barcelona
Chelsea have just replaced Arsenal.
That's all that's changed.
Man u are undefeated, and Chelsea looked unbeatable until recently with a few injury woes.
That's all that's changed.
Man u are undefeated, and Chelsea looked unbeatable until recently with a few injury woes.
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=42868.msg1221828#msg1221828 date=1290349465]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221725#msg1221725 date=1290325757]
Well, a little more balance.
What's the point in a league where:
1. The top two are well known before the season starts
2. They only drop the occasional against any non-top-two side and finish the league with 90%+ of the maximum points.
3. The budget of the top two is way above that of the others
4. They get astronomical chunks of the TV deals
5. They have most of the top players in the league (and whenever another club possesses a "newly discovered top player" they're quick to lay their hands on him)
and I could probably go on an on and on.
So what's the point of supporting any team other than the top two?
So is the EPL well balanced? - probably not as balanced as it should be.
Is it better balanced than La Liga? I think it is. look at the top of the EPL and you'll find 6 top clubs (excuse me for including LFC).
Hope the point of my comment is clearer now.
[/quote]
1992–93 Manchester United
1993–94 Manchester United
1994–95 Blackburn Rovers
1995–96 Manchester United
1996–97 Manchester United
1997–98 Arsenal
1998–99 Manchester United
1999–00 Manchester United
2000–01 Manchester United
2001–02 Arsenal
2002–03 Manchester United
2003–04 Arsenal
2004–05 Chelsea
2005–06 Chelsea
2006–07 Manchester United
2007–08 Manchester United
2008–09 Manchester United
2009–10 Chelsea
1992–93 Barcelona
1993–94 Barcelona
1994–95 Real Madrid
1995–96 Atlético Madrid
1996–97 Real Madrid
1997–98 Barcelona
1998–99 Barcelona
1999–00 Deportivo La Coruña
2000–01 Real Madrid
2001–02 Valencia
2002–03 Real Madrid
2003–04 Valencia
2004–05 Barcelona
2005–06 Barcelona
2006–07 Real Madrid
2007–08 Real Madrid
2008–09 Barcelona
2009–10 Barcelona
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I said both were not balanced, with EPL being a little more balanced.
La Liga 2009-10:
Pos Team G W D L GD P
1 Barcelona 38 31 6 1 +74 99
2 R. Madrid 38 31 3 4 +67 96
3 Valencia 38 21 8 9 +19 71
4 Sevilla 38 19 6 13 +16 63
5 Mallorca 38 18 8 12 +15 62
La Liga 2010-2011 (after 12 matches):
Pos Team G W D L GD P
1 R. Madrid 12 10 2 0 +27 32
2 Barcelona 12 10 1 1 +25 31
3 Villarreal 12 7 3 2 +11 24
4 Valencia 12 6 3 3 +5 21
5 Sevilla 11 6 2 3 +1 20
EPL 2009-10:
Team P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Chelsea 38 27 5 6 103 32 71 86
2 Man Utd 38 27 4 7 86 28 58 85
3 Arsenal 38 23 6 9 83 41 42 75
4 Spurs 38 21 7 10 67 41 26 70
5 Man City 38 18 13 7 73 45 28 67
EPL 2010-11 (after 14 matches):
Team P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Chelsea 14 9 1 4 28 9 19 28
2 Man Utd 14 7 7 0 28 15 13 28
3 Arsenal 14 8 2 4 28 15 13 26
4 Bolton 14 5 7 2 26 20 6 22
5 Man City 13 6 4 3 15 10 5 22
6 Spurs 14 6 4 4 21 19 2 22
I do think the EPL is a little more balanced.
We both know for sure that the next La Liga champions will be either Real Madrid or Barcelona.
The next EPL champions will probably be either Man Utd or Chelsea, but you cannot rule out teams like Arsenal, Man City and Spurs.
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221725#msg1221725 date=1290325757]
Well, a little more balance.
What's the point in a league where:
1. The top two are well known before the season starts
2. They only drop the occasional against any non-top-two side and finish the league with 90%+ of the maximum points.
3. The budget of the top two is way above that of the others
4. They get astronomical chunks of the TV deals
5. They have most of the top players in the league (and whenever another club possesses a "newly discovered top player" they're quick to lay their hands on him)
and I could probably go on an on and on.
So what's the point of supporting any team other than the top two?
So is the EPL well balanced? - probably not as balanced as it should be.
Is it better balanced than La Liga? I think it is. look at the top of the EPL and you'll find 6 top clubs (excuse me for including LFC).
Hope the point of my comment is clearer now.
[/quote]
1992–93 Manchester United
1993–94 Manchester United
1994–95 Blackburn Rovers
1995–96 Manchester United
1996–97 Manchester United
1997–98 Arsenal
1998–99 Manchester United
1999–00 Manchester United
2000–01 Manchester United
2001–02 Arsenal
2002–03 Manchester United
2003–04 Arsenal
2004–05 Chelsea
2005–06 Chelsea
2006–07 Manchester United
2007–08 Manchester United
2008–09 Manchester United
2009–10 Chelsea
1992–93 Barcelona
1993–94 Barcelona
1994–95 Real Madrid
1995–96 Atlético Madrid
1996–97 Real Madrid
1997–98 Barcelona
1998–99 Barcelona
1999–00 Deportivo La Coruña
2000–01 Real Madrid
2001–02 Valencia
2002–03 Real Madrid
2003–04 Valencia
2004–05 Barcelona
2005–06 Barcelona
2006–07 Real Madrid
2007–08 Real Madrid
2008–09 Barcelona
2009–10 Barcelona
[/quote]
I said both were not balanced, with EPL being a little more balanced.
La Liga 2009-10:
Pos Team G W D L GD P
1 Barcelona 38 31 6 1 +74 99
2 R. Madrid 38 31 3 4 +67 96
3 Valencia 38 21 8 9 +19 71
4 Sevilla 38 19 6 13 +16 63
5 Mallorca 38 18 8 12 +15 62
La Liga 2010-2011 (after 12 matches):
Pos Team G W D L GD P
1 R. Madrid 12 10 2 0 +27 32
2 Barcelona 12 10 1 1 +25 31
3 Villarreal 12 7 3 2 +11 24
4 Valencia 12 6 3 3 +5 21
5 Sevilla 11 6 2 3 +1 20
EPL 2009-10:
Team P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Chelsea 38 27 5 6 103 32 71 86
2 Man Utd 38 27 4 7 86 28 58 85
3 Arsenal 38 23 6 9 83 41 42 75
4 Spurs 38 21 7 10 67 41 26 70
5 Man City 38 18 13 7 73 45 28 67
EPL 2010-11 (after 14 matches):
Team P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Chelsea 14 9 1 4 28 9 19 28
2 Man Utd 14 7 7 0 28 15 13 28
3 Arsenal 14 8 2 4 28 15 13 26
4 Bolton 14 5 7 2 26 20 6 22
5 Man City 13 6 4 3 15 10 5 22
6 Spurs 14 6 4 4 21 19 2 22
I do think the EPL is a little more balanced.
We both know for sure that the next La Liga champions will be either Real Madrid or Barcelona.
The next EPL champions will probably be either Man Utd or Chelsea, but you cannot rule out teams like Arsenal, Man City and Spurs.
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[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=42868.msg1221822#msg1221822 date=1290348227]
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=42868.msg1221722#msg1221722 date=1290325097]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221717#msg1221717 date=1290321043]
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
[/quote]
The EPL is much more balanced than any of the other leagues, besides the German.
[/quote]
How is it much more balanced?
Are we judging balanced on the amount of teams that can challenge for the title?
SPain 2
Italy 3
England 3? ( Who really thinks it's going to be between anyone other then Manu or Chelsea?)
Germany and France have several.
[/quote]
Spain is obviously the most unbalanced of them all by far. It's sickening really, Barca and Real get way more from the TV-deals than the rest and also backed by city/banks/whatever so they are in a league of their own financially. I recall there being talk that the rest of the league are planning on going on strike if they can't get a more balanced TV-deal like in England and Italy.
For me England comes second. This season has been a bit weird but as you say it really should be between ManU and Chelsea come May. In England however there is at least a chance someone would challenge the big two.
I think Italy atm is more balanced than it has been for years. There are six or seven teams who could challenge if they hit a good run of form.
France and Germany are the most balanced and for me German league is the most interesting to follow from simply neutral football fans' perspective.
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=42868.msg1221822#msg1221822 date=1290348227]
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=42868.msg1221722#msg1221722 date=1290325097]
[quote author=jimmy link=topic=42868.msg1221717#msg1221717 date=1290321043]
That's what I love about La Liga - is such a well balanced league! Every game is a nail biting thriller and so many teams are in with a chance of winning it...
[/quote]
What's the point of this comment? Do you think the English League is well balanced or something?
[/quote]
The EPL is much more balanced than any of the other leagues, besides the German.
[/quote]
How is it much more balanced?
Are we judging balanced on the amount of teams that can challenge for the title?
SPain 2
Italy 3
England 3? ( Who really thinks it's going to be between anyone other then Manu or Chelsea?)
Germany and France have several.
[/quote]
Spain is obviously the most unbalanced of them all by far. It's sickening really, Barca and Real get way more from the TV-deals than the rest and also backed by city/banks/whatever so they are in a league of their own financially. I recall there being talk that the rest of the league are planning on going on strike if they can't get a more balanced TV-deal like in England and Italy.
For me England comes second. This season has been a bit weird but as you say it really should be between ManU and Chelsea come May. In England however there is at least a chance someone would challenge the big two.
I think Italy atm is more balanced than it has been for years. There are six or seven teams who could challenge if they hit a good run of form.
France and Germany are the most balanced and for me German league is the most interesting to follow from simply neutral football fans' perspective.
Germany seems to be balanced. But nevertheless in the last 20 seasons Bayern have won it 10 times, Dortmund 3 times, Bremen, Kaiserslautern and Stuttgart twice, Wolfsburg once.
Maybe it's the fact that more than 2 teams are actually capable of winning and that these teams often change.
Anyway, it's one of the best and most exciting leagues to watch.
Maybe it's the fact that more than 2 teams are actually capable of winning and that these teams often change.
Anyway, it's one of the best and most exciting leagues to watch.
It's quite a recent development that the PL has become more competitive again: Chelsea under Mourinho destroyed almost everyone, for instance, and it's not that long since Arsenal went the entire season unbeaten. I'm not even sure it's because the smaller teams have improved. The truth is that all of the 'old' Big Four (us, Arsenal, Chelsea, United) have stumbled/collapsed recently: just look at the records of English clubs in Europe last season for confirmation.
I'm also not totally convinced that having champions from lots of different clubs is really a sign of a league's health. I'd look at attendance figures, goals scored, numbers of world stars who play there, and other stats to determine that. I'd much rather watch La Liga than Serie A, put it that way, no matter how many teams are competing for the title in each country.
I'm also not totally convinced that having champions from lots of different clubs is really a sign of a league's health. I'd look at attendance figures, goals scored, numbers of world stars who play there, and other stats to determine that. I'd much rather watch La Liga than Serie A, put it that way, no matter how many teams are competing for the title in each country.
It is possible that the more even distribution of money in England has led to a more competitive league over time, as it's only recently that the amounts received are big enough. I don't know if it's the reality that it has, as it's only really this season that's it's evident.
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