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I'd still sell 100%. It's only a matter time before he gets an injury that puts him out for the season again.

Two great strikes don't change that. We all know he is a superb finisher but it's not December and he's scored in two games. It's not enough for a player that would fetch a big fee.
Youre talking utter, utter fucking balls. And ive already explained to you why, but you wont have it.
  1. the whole fucking world knows hes injury prone, so who are you thinking is going to whizz up this "big fee"?
  2. the big fee better be a fuckload bigger than the 5yrs at 100k+ that we owe him, coz were going to be paying a significant portion of that contract off before he exits stage-left
Opinions are fine Dreamy, but youre in the realm of Football Manager 16 on this one. I'm happy for an argument about "hes injury prone, we cant rely on him, got to go with another option". I dont necessarily agree, but its an opinion. However "lets sell him for a massive fee, and spend the money on someone else" is cloud fucking cuckoo land shite.
 
You know what I like about not having a Suarez, Gerrard, Sanchez, Hazard type player in the team?
We play more as a team without them. I want to believe that they all enter the pitch as equals and not dependant on one player to win us the game. It's a team effort more or less and I think that is what Klopp is instilling in them.
If a winner like Klopp can rely on Lucas to act has his understudy on the pitch I think we should as well.

I think it's hugely encouraging that he's managed to lift the form of Moreno and Lovren, both of whom I'd lost complete patience with by the Summer. Lucas has been great and Joe Allen was everything we'd initially wanted him to be against Southampton. Makes you wonder if he's working wonders with limited players, or we did indeed have a good young squad that just needed the right direction. Either way, it's promising in the respect that we don't have to rely on big money to close the gap, because that's never a good ploy to need to rely on, throwing money after badly spent money, after badly spent money.

The interesting part will be when Klopp does have to spend. That's when we'll find out who doesn't make the cut and we'll see if his transfer policy matches his other qualities.
 
How would he fetch a big fee? Does nobody else realise he gets injured a lot?

People always think they can do better or have all the answers.

He's undoubtedly good so someone would think he's worth it. Bit like us when we got him, he had history then.
 
I know Froggy, but its so hard to take confidence when we're so good at fucking up, even against Swansea we painfully struggled through. I can just see us dropping a lot of points in those "winnable" home games thanks to teams dragging at a painful bore draw. I hope you're right though.

I think that bodes well for us. We need to get the one-nilers on off days or a stubborn opponent. It's a strength and a characteristic of winners.
 
Jexy: true up to a point, but (a) the questions centred at least as much on his attitude - as Studge himself acknowledged when he arrived here - as on his injury record, and (b) we got him for a relatively low fee, since when he's missed a shedload more playing time.
 
I think that bodes well for us. We need to get the one-nilers on off days or a stubborn opponent. It's a strength and a characteristic of winners.
I'd agree, but I worry that we'll come unstuck more often than not, we need to be scoring against these sides in the first 20 minutes, we still have the mentality of leaving it late.
 
I'd agree, but I worry that we'll come unstuck more often than not, we need to be scoring against these sides in the first 20 minutes, we still have the mentality of leaving it late.

I doubt that's the mentality as such. It's more the result of teams knowing how dangerous we can be going forward, and guarding against it.

BTW in some seasons in the glory days we won as many as a quarter of our games by one goal in the final few minutes.
 
Top four is no guarantee of CL.

Top three is.
Pat, top 4 this season will guarantee CL.

There's no way the co-efficient will change that much this season, especially as we have have at least one and probably three teams into the knockout stages.

I've seen the way it's worked out and I'm too lazy to find it, but just trust me on this.
 
Pat, top 4 this season will guarantee CL.

There's no way the co-efficient will change that much this season, especially as we have have at least one and probably three teams into the knockout stages.

I've seen the way it's worked out and I'm too lazy to find it, but just trust me on this.

He'll be referring to the play-off which 4th is required to play.
 
Pat, top 4 this season will guarantee CL.

There's no way the co-efficient will change that much this season, especially as we have have at least one and probably three teams into the knockout stages.

I've seen the way it's worked out and I'm too lazy to find it, but just trust me on this.

Unless an English team wins the CL this year, right? Then the fourth place team goes into the EL.

Or do I have that wrong.
 
I think it's hugely encouraging that he's managed to lift the form of Moreno and Lovren, both of whom I'd lost complete patience with by the Summer. Lucas has been great and Joe Allen was everything we'd initially wanted him to be against Southampton. Makes you wonder if he's working wonders with limited players, or we did indeed have a good young squad that just needed the right direction. Either way, it's promising in the respect that we don't have to rely on big money to close the gap, because that's never a good ploy to need to rely on, throwing money after badly spent money, after badly spent money.

The interesting part will be when Klopp does have to spend. That's when we'll find out who doesn't make the cut and we'll see if his transfer policy matches his other qualities.

In fairness Moreno improved a lot since he was dropped for Gomez before Klopp came.
 
This year 4th place is 99% certain to get into the CL qualifier.
Next season could be tough if the Italians do well this time and the English clubs do shite.


The one encouraging thing about Sturridge for me is that every time he comes back he looks the same player, with the same speed, agility and shooting.
Injuries suffered by our great strikers in the past 20 years have destroyed them. They were never the same (different injuries, I know).
So Sturridge is definitely worth persevering with, for me anyway.
There's no way we can replace him with anyone better than him right now.
 
I know Froggy, but its so hard to take confidence when we're so good at fucking up, even against Swansea we painfully struggled through. I can just see us dropping a lot of points in those "winnable" home games thanks to teams dragging at a painful bore draw. I hope you're right though.
I may not be right .. but Klopp will be 😉

Believe. There's a reason the likes of 'Dumbledore's Army' exists.
 
I'd agree, but I worry that we'll come unstuck more often than not, we need to be scoring against these sides in the first 20 minutes, we still have the mentality of leaving it late.
United have had 3 x 0-0 scores in their last 5 home games (all matches) and 2 of their most recent wins have been gifted to them via O.Gs. However they are right up there and many are still saying they can win the PL, as of course they can.
If they are considered strong challengers I see absolutely no reason at all why we shouldn't be considered too. After all, I'll take Klopp's 7 wins and 1 loss in the past 8 games, and be happy to repeat it to the end of the season, losing every 8th match to a Crystal Palace level team !
 
Gone are the days when you can just savour and enjoy a 6-1 trashing without being pressured into talks of a title win/challenge or worrying when's the next slump gonna hit.
 
I think it's hugely encouraging that he's managed to lift the form of Moreno and Lovren, both of whom I'd lost complete patience with by the Summer. Lucas has been great and Joe Allen was everything we'd initially wanted him to be against Southampton. Makes you wonder if he's working wonders with limited players, or we did indeed have a good young squad that just needed the right direction. Either way, it's promising in the respect that we don't have to rely on big money to close the gap, because that's never a good ploy to need to rely on, throwing money after badly spent money, after badly spent money.

The interesting part will be when Klopp does have to spend. That's when we'll find out who doesn't make the cut and we'll see if his transfer policy matches his other qualities.


I think above all Klopp has taken off the pressure of history both recent and past and given all of the players a clean slate and confidence to go out and play... They simply run faster without all that weight on their shoulders and the dissapontment hanging over them that they ended up with during the dog end of Rodgers reign.

I feel a little bit of sympathy for Rodgers actually... It's the same bunch of players but they just look brand new under Klopp.

It's really fucking great to see us so happy on the pitch, I don't know about you guys but I'm fucking loving it at the moment.
 
Youre talking utter, utter fucking balls. And ive already explained to you why, but you wont have it.
  1. the whole fucking world knows hes injury prone, so who are you thinking is going to whizz up this "big fee"?
  2. the big fee better be a fuckload bigger than the 5yrs at 100k+ that we owe him, coz were going to be paying a significant portion of that contract off before he exits stage-left
Opinions are fine Dreamy, but youre in the realm of Football Manager 16 on this one. I'm happy for an argument about "hes injury prone, we cant rely on him, got to go with another option". I dont necessarily agree, but its an opinion. However "lets sell him for a massive fee, and spend the money on someone else" is cloud fucking cuckoo land shite.

Ya because nobody paid 30M for a severely injury prone Van Persie.

Other clubs fans are as bad as ours, 5 or 6 more goals in December and other clubs will be sniffing around Sturridge so the point about the fee is bollox.
 
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