Holloway: I'd love to see Liverpool win the title
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This thread is all over the place like Ian Holloway
Europe is not a country, thank goodness, however much the business and political elite want it to become one.
What do Italian suppositories have to do with this?
About as much as any other of the posts in here!
What do you call an Italian with a prosthetic leg?
Roberto.
That's how wars start.
Technically wrongly. It's British and Northern Irish in a legal, constitutional sense. But 'Ukers' doesn't sound right.
What do you call a tall, drunk Italian drummer?
A high tiddly Eyetie (boom boom).
Doesn't the term British derive more from the "British Isles" than from "Great Britain", we'd be known as Britons otherwise.
It isn't a question of either/or though. "Britons" is the noun and "British" the adjective.
All I'm saying is, until Brendan Rodgers says either way, can people unrelated to him stop telling us how we should refer to him based upon their own political beliefs? The default position is he's both British and Irish, he can be referred to as either, until Brendan Rodgers says otherwise, leave it be.
My bad. Point still remains though, ie British Isles.
Yes but that predates and has nothing to do with the Act of Union. All the Act of Union did was to call the British and the Northern Irish part of something called the UK. It didn't bother to give a collective noun to the people. So that allowed for a variety of informal terms to come into circulation, the most common by far being 'British'. The only legal constitutional term to describe the political union between the two is the UK. So if people want to call themselves one or the other, that's their choice, but there isn't a 'right' answer because there isn't a legal term encoded in the founding document.
100%, my complaint is other people telling me I can't refer to him as British because they don't like it. If Brendan Rodgers comes out and says he only wants to be called only British or Irish, then so be, until then, he's both.
Over here everyone just gets called Engels. The reaction from the Welsh, Irish and particularly the Scottish is amusing.
Is this why people from Northern Ireland aren't technically British citizens, they're British subjects?
They're pawns of the aristocracy, haven't you heard?
I knew lizards would be behind it all.
It's fairly easy to define.
If you're in England and south of Watford you're English
If you're from somewhere else in England or the rest of the UK no-one gives a fuck about you so do what you want
If you're in England and south of Watford you're English
If you're from somewhere else in England or the rest of the UK no-one gives a fuck about you so do what you want
Wooo, I'm north of Watford!
Why don't we just refer to him as Northern Irish? Job done. Works for my wife's family, as they cross the 'divide' along the Antrim coast.
This thread is great. Getting right back on track - Did I ever tell you about the time I got mauled by a dog while visiting Whiterocks beach just outside of Portrush? Little fucker almost had my ankles for dinner!
It also depends on how much success you bring.
Andy Murray is British
Charlie Adam is Scottish
Andy Murray is British
Charlie Adam is Scottish
Michael Owen is Welsh.
Amazing beach though. I think I might have put you onto that one....I wasn't to know was I?
Incorrect actually.
The Act of Union did not address the nationality issue but the only distinction at that time was the common law distinction between aliens and subjects. Irishmen, like Scots were subjects of a single political entity, i.e. British Subjects.
The first codification of British Nationality law was the British Nationality and Status of Aliens Act 1914 which held that all the people of the empire whether Indians, English, Malays, Scottish, Welsh or Kenyans etc held equal status as British subjects.
As the empire broke up the British Nationality Act 1948 changed the name to Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (CUKC)
Under the British Nationality Act of 1981, all the people of the United Kingdom including Northern Ireland are officially and correctly known as British Citizens.
NB. The term 'British Subject' refers only to Commonwealth citizens who wished to maintain their connection to the UK. This includes, strangely, people born in Ireland before 1949 who did not take up Irish citizenship and/or applied to retain their British subjectivity. and wow I feel like a loser for actually googling this.
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