Has he lost the dressing room then ?
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Rosco's giving every impression he wants Klopp sacked.
The players are physically and mentally tired. The signings we made in the summer have been in effectual due to injury.
Biggest mistake was not spending money and getting in good defenders in Jan. This is all down on the owners.
The players are physically and mentally tired. The signings we made in the summer have been in effectual due to injury.
Biggest mistake was not spending money and getting in good defenders in Jan. This is all down on the owners.
It worked for him because his dear old mum was in English heaven, which is above England. Klopp and Alli's parents are in foreigner heaven. Which is closer to hell.
The most reasoned post by @dmishra - great post, and sometimes (me especially) I forget this. I actually did not follow football after the first lock-down and it took a work colleague to email me at night - to let me know that we won the title after Chelsea beat Man City last season. I chose not to watch because of the lack of a crowd in the stadiums as I think even as an armchair fan - it is one of the reasons I watch the game. The roar of the supporters is so so important to motivate the players. Maybe I should follow my own rules and just stop watching them in these empty stadiums - it is sickening.
It could be a matter of I asked for a sofa and I was given a pillow instead.
Our history of managers going on a rant with the media backfires on us always .
When klopp started arguments about the TV schedule it must have gone in the players minds also that they are more exhausted than the opponents and the end up being mentality midgets.
Our history of managers going on a rant with the media backfires on us always .
When klopp started arguments about the TV schedule it must have gone in the players minds also that they are more exhausted than the opponents and the end up being mentality midgets.
So all we need is some fans.
That's a brilliant way to bury your head in the sand and postpone making a judgment on players etc until it's too late.
This pathetic dip surly turning a loss into a win is a turn around.
I love you man I feel loads better now *virtual high five ya*
Dmishra made the best point in here. We play for the fans, city are mercenaries for results.
I wonder if we can teach that somehow. Would bring Dejan back I bet he was cockslapping everyone
I wonder if we can teach that somehow. Would bring Dejan back I bet he was cockslapping everyone
I'd be quite alright with the players playing for the results.
Haha yes but Klopp managed to get more out of the players by hedging on that 12th Man to eg turn Salah from a decent player to a world class one. I wonder if he can change his approach to find a new level
Out of 273 premier league games so far this season 102 (37%) home wins, 65 (24%) draws and 106 (39%) away wins. Just one home win so far this weekend. Hardly a normal season.
If you think the lack of fans hasn't played a part, you're also being a bit myopic about it all.
I can guess your stance - Klopp has reached his high with Liverpool and is inevitably hitting an irreversible downward trajectory, as are many of his players.
Some of that might be true, but I don't think we can really paint it quite so black and white. I'm pretty sure Klopp would prefer to not have to sell a big name in order to improve another area of his squad, I'm also sure he would prefer to not be pinning his hopes on Minamino, Davies and Kabak, while City have a £300m bench.
It was obvious as soon as we won the title that there were issues, as soon as we came back after the break of not knowing whether we were going to have the title cruelly ripped away from us. The last year has been a total mental fuck for everyone. We've had the ups of finally winning the title, which was tarnished by not being able to celebrate it properly, after months of not knowing if it was even going to happen.
So you can't really blame a few people for hitting a psychological or fatigue brick wall. Players and manager have had personal stuff to compound that too, I know every club is in the same situation, but ours feels slightly more intense for all of those reasons well documented. We really do just need the season to finish, to reassess and to regroup. But it's not an easy fix, it's not just "old players" or players who are past their best, there are players there who've had a crap season, who have the scope and time to come good again. Trent being one. VVD looked well off the pace after we won the title, he looked lax and complacent, so it's not just the current available crop. Though it's now up to the coaching staff to re-motivate, cull and adapt.
It'll take time, but as we know first hand, football can turn on a sixpence in next to no time. You only have to look at City, United and Everton's respective seasons to appreciate the complexities and fickleness of football.
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Any guy would be.
Yep that MF got himself a Fox.
You forgot to add that he's a massive cunt though. Thats probably the gist of it.
I have met him on a few occasions and I don't think he is.
Though he is an absolute wind up merchant.
Actually I forgot Jones!
He’s in for Gini.
It's unwarranted abuse like this that has this site on its death bed.
Don't worry. Your wonderful negative/miserable threads and posts that are the antithesis of the Liverpool way is countering that and bringing in new members in droves.
What's the Liverpool way to deal with the worst home streak in the history of the club ?
Pretend it's not happening ?
The dressing room has lost itself.
I find the whole 'its because there are no fans' line of thought to be either really naive or just plain denial. No team has fans, every club is in the same position unless you want to make the argument that our players somehow respond to a home crowd, but only a home crowd, in a way that other players don't. That's just nonsense. If Chris Wilder came out at the end of the season and said the reason his team got relegated after finishing top 10 the year before was because his players simply couldn't motivate themselves without the Sheffield Utd fans in the ground you would laugh at him.
There are lots of reasons for this implosion, none of them will be resolved just because the turnstiles are reopened in a few months.
There are lots of reasons for this implosion, none of them will be resolved just because the turnstiles are reopened in a few months.
How can you support this football club and see what we've seen and not think supporters play a part. Our form in Europe is absurd and the supporters play a role in that.
I think in general, its been easier to be a completely defensive, ambitionless team at home this season. There's no supporters wanting you to try to win a game, and shithouse, unbelievably defensive teams with no interest in possession have not had to endure fans getting on their back, nor have they felt encouraged to go forward once they have a little passage of play. The emotional component of the game is removed.
Your lazy shitposting is a symptom rather than a cause, but its much more relevant than unwarranted abuse, which has been part of this site since day one.
Sprinkled in with some of the very much warranted kind.
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