Has Benitez got the boot yet?
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I'll always wish Rafa well as he was a very good manager for us. He'll need a good deal of luck to survive the managerial merry-go-round that is Real Madrid but he would've known this on taking the job. No-one is damaged by losing that job (when it happens) as it's simply the way they operate.
Yeah, but their fans are the most spoilt brats going. Short of fecking Jesus emerging from a cave to serve them, they'll be unimpressed with any signing unless he's the flavour of the month. That's all they have to measure the worth of anyone: transient fashion. They make Chelsea fans look like thoughtful guardians of the game. They deserve every humiliation imaginable in terms of results.
I do buy the general logic about him helping Real Madrid to be perhaps less riven by personal politics, antagonists and changing room Emperors, with perhaps a view to easing Ronaldo out of the door to PSG, without enraging all the hankie-waving blerts in the crowd and on social media.
But Real is ALL about Galacticos. Perez virtually invented the concept in this era, so it's a bit rich to moan about it now and employ Benitez to start treating the job as one in which the prime objective is to win trophies, rather than try and act as some kind of ersatz talent agent/ psychologist.
And to actually claim that Benitez was employed to piss off Ronaldo, and bring in a new recruitment strategy by - in the short-term at least - LOSING football matches and ceding La Liga to Barcelona, is an ask too far.
Although thinking about it, that's actually what's going to happen.
He played all the players that Perez and the fans demand he plays, so Kroos and Modric plus James, Ronaldo, Benzema and Bale, and no grubby DM like Casemiro.
Whether under orders from Perez, or to make a point, or to appease the fans and Perez, who knows, but the Carra/ Neville autopsy is horrible viewing; it's two swamped midfielders who can't tackle, with four meandering strikers offering no industry, width or movement. Utterly abject display and while the hankie-waving clowns at the Bernabeu are irritating and entitled gobshites, they were well within their rights to express displeasure at that display at home to their biggest rivals, regardless of how and why the team was selected.
I don't think they did, no. Nor did most of the players. Hence the vitriol being directed at Benitez and Perez.
Any notion that he was hired to rein in the dressing room and manage Ronaldo's exit is ridiculous, IMO. Real should be riding what remains of Ronaldo's peak for as long as it lasts, collect as many trophies as possible and then accept the 3 or 4 desolate years that will follow once the team disintegrates. As good a player as Bale is, he is nowhere near the same level of Ronaldo.
I also don't think it above Benitez to have played that team to demonstrate how ridiculous Perez's team selection is and thereby "prove" that he should have more control. Rafa has always engaged in the political aspect of management.
I also don't think it above Benitez to have played that team to demonstrate how ridiculous Perez's team selection is and thereby "prove" that he should have more control. Rafa has always engaged in the political aspect of management.
I don't buy this theory one bit.
1) Perez is NEVER about building "an actual team," this is a man who invented the concept of Galacticos and there is nothing to suggest that he has changed.
2) Even if he wanted to build "an actual team," Benitez is far from an obvious choice for that, given his inability to build a winning team in Napoli, despite being given ample resources. Also why would you impose a defensive-minded manager on a notoriously impatient fanbase who demand attacking football at all times?
So I guess Di Matteo is next in line.
Well, there's sometimes a difference between what you think is ridiculous and what happens. Most Real presidents have had ridiculous ideas and plans.
You have a valid point. Not exact a fount of reason and sanity, that club.
From The Times:
Cristiano Ronaldo promised to be more conscious of his defensive duties at a meeting between Real Madrid’s senior players and Rafael Benítez, the club’s coach, 24 hours before last night’s Champions League group A match away to Shakhtar Donetsk, during which the former Manchester United forward scored twice in a 4-3 win.
Along with Gareth Bale, James Rodríguez and Karim Benzema, the Portuguese was invited to discuss ideas about how the club might recover from Saturday’s 4-0 Clasico defeat at their hotel in Lviv, Ukraine, with Benítez. Ronaldo is believed to have acknowledged that he needed to cover more ground from his preferred berth on the left wing, but suggested that the same was true of much of the side.
Benítez called the meeting after Florentino Pérez, the club president, said in a press conference on Monday that the defeat by Barcelona — which left Real six points off the pace in La Liga — had not placed the former Liverpool manager’s job in any danger.
Pérez has made it clear to players such as Ronaldo, Bale and Rodríguez that Benítez will not find his position undermined if he chooses to drop them. The players have also been informed that they are expected to follow the coach’s instructions. At Real, where the club’s galactico signings have long been guaranteed a place in the side, that is a considerable change of emphasis.
Let's see how long this 'emphasis' lasts. My guess is about a week.
Cristiano Ronaldo promised to be more conscious of his defensive duties at a meeting between Real Madrid’s senior players and Rafael Benítez, the club’s coach, 24 hours before last night’s Champions League group A match away to Shakhtar Donetsk, during which the former Manchester United forward scored twice in a 4-3 win.
Along with Gareth Bale, James Rodríguez and Karim Benzema, the Portuguese was invited to discuss ideas about how the club might recover from Saturday’s 4-0 Clasico defeat at their hotel in Lviv, Ukraine, with Benítez. Ronaldo is believed to have acknowledged that he needed to cover more ground from his preferred berth on the left wing, but suggested that the same was true of much of the side.
Benítez called the meeting after Florentino Pérez, the club president, said in a press conference on Monday that the defeat by Barcelona — which left Real six points off the pace in La Liga — had not placed the former Liverpool manager’s job in any danger.
Pérez has made it clear to players such as Ronaldo, Bale and Rodríguez that Benítez will not find his position undermined if he chooses to drop them. The players have also been informed that they are expected to follow the coach’s instructions. At Real, where the club’s galactico signings have long been guaranteed a place in the side, that is a considerable change of emphasis.
Let's see how long this 'emphasis' lasts. My guess is about a week.
He was always onto a loser there i feel... he is a defensively minded coach at a team who basically insist on attack, and a control freak in a place where control rests above his head. The fact that Ronaldo is showing signs of aging and that your main opponents have the other 3 best attackers in the world means Rafa was always pretty much fucked.
I don't truly understand the delight that some take in this on here however... weird...
I don't truly understand the delight that some take in this on here however... weird...
Agreed. Things went sour later on and IMO it was right to let him go when we did, but Istanbul if nothing else should spare him the hate.
Giving Benitez the boot cost us several years of turmoil and the loss of our European status. Bad decision then and in hindsight, the hate is a reaction to being unable to admit a mistake.
I don't think it was a mistake to let him go, but hiring Hodgson's was a mistake of astronomical proportions. I think most people are taking delight in Madrid getting tonked because they're a cunt of a club, not because Rafa is there.
Oh yeah, I get that totally. I don't really give a fuck what anyone does once they leave Liverpool, and in many cases I actively want them to do badly. But while Madrid is a horrible club, I hate Barcleona more, and as Oncey said it would be great to see him batter a Premiership team or two in Europe before he gets fired
I love how people buy into this shit
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