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[quote author=Modo link=topic=46780.msg1395627#msg1395627 date=1315418897]
Wow you guys have really turned on him.
I'll be checking this thread when he's back in the team. Hopefully against Stoke.
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I ain't turned on no-one He was a luxury player we didn't need at the time we bought him. He offers little defensively

And i still stand by the fact he can't cross and he's like fucking baros when attacking the opposition
 
So since we have signed him we have scored less goals, conceded more goals and had really pathetic finishes in the league. Great signing.

I know its not all down to him by any means but neither is it a lot to warrant the good reputation he seems to have with many.

Hopefully we will see this season how he gets on in a team playing well.
 
If Johnson can defend as well as he did at LB when playing RB then he's got a decent future here, but there's still plenty of question marks around him.

I've always believed we should push him higher up the pitch.

And for what it's worth, I think Kelly is now an established Liverpool player.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=46780.msg1395650#msg1395650 date=1315421560]
I like all our players.
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You radical bastard
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46780.msg1395651#msg1395651 date=1315421605]
[quote author=themn link=topic=46780.msg1395650#msg1395650 date=1315421560]
I like all our players.
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You radical bastard
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Even the ones that aren't tinted.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46780.msg1395628#msg1395628 date=1315419135]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46780.msg1395627#msg1395627 date=1315418897]
Wow you guys have really turned on him.
I'll be checking this thread when he's back in the team. Hopefully against Stoke.
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Yeah so will I Modo, it doesn't matter whether it's Stoke or whoever, the accidents will come because he's a shit fullback.


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I'm quiffing but Johnson is clearly not a "shit fullback". He was probably our best player in the second half of last season playing on the wrong side of defence. How on God's earth does that make him "shit"?
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=46780.msg1395654#msg1395654 date=1315421905]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46780.msg1395628#msg1395628 date=1315419135]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46780.msg1395627#msg1395627 date=1315418897]
Wow you guys have really turned on him.
I'll be checking this thread when he's back in the team. Hopefully against Stoke.
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Yeah so will I Modo, it doesn't matter whether it's Stoke or whoever, the accidents will come because he's a shit fullback.


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I'm quiffing but Johnson is clearly not a "shit fullback". He was probably our best player in the second half of last season playing on the wrong side of defence. How on God's earth does that make him "shit"?
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[quote author=Buddha link=topic=46780.msg1395654#msg1395654 date=1315421905]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46780.msg1395628#msg1395628 date=1315419135]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46780.msg1395627#msg1395627 date=1315418897]
Wow you guys have really turned on him.
I'll be checking this thread when he's back in the team. Hopefully against Stoke.
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Yeah so will I Modo, it doesn't matter whether it's Stoke or whoever, the accidents will come because he's a shit fullback.


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I'm quiffing but Johnson is clearly not a "shit fullback". He was probably our best player in the second half of last season playing on the wrong side of defence. How on God's earth does that make him "shit"?
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I was exaggerating to get my point across, but yeah, I've said throughout the thread he was good at left back, he's been inconsistent at right back though and not just for us.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46780.msg1395639#msg1395639 date=1315419880]
[quote author=Gary25 link=topic=46780.msg1395635#msg1395635 date=1315419428]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46780.msg1395627#msg1395627 date=1315418897]
Wow you guys have really turned on him.
I'll be checking this thread when he's back in the team. Hopefully against Stoke.
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When you're a Skrtel critic for seemingly being a poor defender whilst at the same time making stupid comments like a 'full back should be able to attack first and foremost' then it's natural people will question you.
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I have no quarrel with Skrts. Kinda like him. Wouldn't mind Cahill though.
If Glenjo and Kelly are unavailable against the mighty Stoke, then I guess Flanno will play.
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Fair dues.

I reckon Skrtel will get the nod at right back for the Stoke game.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=46780.msg1395627#msg1395627 date=1315418897]
Wow you guys have really turned on him.
I'll be checking this thread when he's back in the team. Hopefully against Stoke.
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I haven;t turned on him, he's a good player with obvious talents. I just prefer a more defensively minded full back. He did a lot better on the left, but I doubt he'd be as good as Enrique, and I wouldn't be against trying him on the right wing.

I also wouldn't shudder if he played right back, I just wouldn't be as excited as you and Neil and some others would be.
 
I'm coming to the thread a little late but my view is, he's second choice RB and LB now. If he's not happy with that come next summer, he can go for £8m and the kids will be better placed to step up.
 
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=46780.msg1395672#msg1395672 date=1315423915]
I'm coming to the thread a little late but my view is, he's second choice RB and LB now. If he's not happy with that come next summer, he can go for £8m and the kids will be better placed to step up.
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the suggestion he has moved down the pecking order is an assumption and time will tell if that if true or not.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46780.msg1395678#msg1395678 date=1315424287]
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=46780.msg1395672#msg1395672 date=1315423915]
I'm coming to the thread a little late but my view is, he's second choice RB and LB now. If he's not happy with that come next summer, he can go for £8m and the kids will be better placed to step up.
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the suggestion he has moved down the pecking order is an assumption and time will tell if that if true or not.
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It's not an assumption, it's my opinion.
 
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=46780.msg1395682#msg1395682 date=1315424447]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46780.msg1395678#msg1395678 date=1315424287]
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=46780.msg1395672#msg1395672 date=1315423915]
I'm coming to the thread a little late but my view is, he's second choice RB and LB now. If he's not happy with that come next summer, he can go for £8m and the kids will be better placed to step up.
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the suggestion he has moved down the pecking order is an assumption and time will tell if that if true or not.
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It's not an assumption, it's my opinion.
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furry muff.
 
by the end of this season Johnson will have proved himself as our first choice RB and put all the naysayers to the sword.
 
[quote author=red_maradona link=topic=46780.msg1395692#msg1395692 date=1315425474]
by the end of this season Johnson will have proved himself as our first choice RB and put all the naysayers to the sword.
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Yup, agreed.

He's a very good footballer, and I'd have him in the team most weeks.
 
I wouldn't sell him as i enjoy the fact that nowadays Kenny has the tough job of picking between a few very good players for one position.

Remember when we used to debate who should play at left back out of Konchesky and Agger?
 
If you think we're being critical of Glen Johnson, check this out:




THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 08, 2011

Glen Johnson: What does he bring to the team, exactly? It's time to sell...


When Rafa Benitez signed Glen Johnson in 2009, I argued at the time that it was a mistake to spend such a large amount of money on a player that Liverpool (arguably) didn't need. Given the catastrophic failure of the two seasons he has been at Anfield, I'm struggling to see what specific, measurable impact Johnson has had on the team, and how he fits into the 'new' Liverpool under Kenny Dalglish.

Here are a few pertinent facts:
2009: In Johnson's first year, Liverpool had their worst league season since 1994 (In terms of league placing)

2008-9: Two league games were lost *all season*. Johnson arrived, and featured in 12 defeats in 35 games (over one third of all the games in which he appeared).

Johnson's arrival coincided with the club's worst overall season (all competitions) in decades, which included failure to get out of the group stage of the CL; a horrible 7th place league finish (and the consequent failure to qualify for the CL)

In two seasons, Liverpool has conceded 71 goals in 70 games with Johnson in the team, which equates to an average of one goal conceded every 1.1 games. It also equates to 67% of goals conceded overall.

As a comparison: In the two years before Johnson arrived (2007-2009) the team conceded 96 goals in 114 games, which is an average of one goal conceded every 0.8 games.

2009-10: Despite Johnson's much-vaunted attacking prowess, he managed only 3 goals and 3 assists. Hardly surprising given that in the 7 years prior to joining Liverpool he averaged 1 goal and 2 assists a season.

2010-11: Two goals and 3 assists this time as Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL for the second time in a row.

In two seasons for Liverpool, Johnson hasn't been able to beat his career-best figures for Portsmouth in 2008-9, where he got 3 goals and 6 assists in 37 games. Is this the level of return expected from an 18m player who is, apparently, 'amazing' going forward?

42 of Johnson's 70 appearances have ended in defeat or draw (24 defeats; 17 draws), which means the club wins only 42% of games with Johnson in the team.

To put this in perspective, between 2007 and 2009, the team lost only 14 times in 114 games.
With these facts in mind, I seriously pose the question: How has Liverpool benefited from the signing of Glen Johnson?
How has the 18m been worth it?

What consistent, positive impact has Johnson had on the team?

How has Liverpool's defence improved with Johnson in it?
There's no getting away from the fact that Liverpool has had two of its most miserable seasons in living memory since Johnson signed. From where I'm standing, the team loses more games, concedes more goals and generally fails to qualify for the Champions League with him in the team.

I think it's also worth nothing that Johnson arrived in the infamous summer of 2009, when Rafa Benitez sealed his fate with a summer of counter-productive transfer activity. It is no coincidence that only Johnson remains from the players bought during that fateful transfer period.

I don't see how Johnson fits into the 'new' Liverpool. Jose Enrique is the new first-choice left back, so Johnson will not be needed there, and we have Martin Kelly, John Flanagan and Martin Skrtel (if need be) to cover the right back position.

Liverpool should sell Johnson in January to the highest bidder IMO - the older he gets, the harder it will be to claw back the 18m originally spent on him.

Liverpool is doing great at the moment, and I fear that Johnson, with his regular goal-gifting errors, will once again destabilise the defence when he returns to the team.

24 defeats in two seasons is more than enough, surely?

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/09/glen-johnson-what-does-he-bring-to-team.html#ixzz1XPApBUcZ
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=46780.msg1396278#msg1396278 date=1315558576]
Ouch, the dreaded Kanwar vote of confidence.

Unlucky guys.
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Ha ha - I was going to say, "I'm not GlenJo's biggest fan or a racist for that matter" but now that I read this, I think GlenJo needs to be the 1st name on the teamsheet.
 
He should be first choice RB for this season but I would also like to see Kelly get some games to help him move forward in his development.
 
Great, now i feel like a mong for agreeing with kanwar


fuck sake
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46780.msg1396309#msg1396309 date=1315564125]
Great, now i feel like a mong for agreeing with kanwar


fuck sake
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Quite. Scrap the thread. Johnson is the bollocks.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=46780.msg1396311#msg1396311 date=1315564236]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46780.msg1396309#msg1396309 date=1315564125]
Great, now i feel like a mong for agreeing with kanwar


fuck sake
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Quite. Scrap the thread. Johnson is the bollocks.
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Yep. It's funny how one article can change your whole opinion on something.
 
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