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Georginio Wijnaldum - confirmed

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I like the fact that we wrapped this transfer up so quickly. Interest was known under a week ago and signed today.

He'll be boss!
 
Jürgen Klopp is delighted to have Georginio Wijnaldum on board at Liverpool, with the boss declaring: “I think he can be a great player for us.”

The Reds completed the signing of Wijnaldum from Newcastle United on Friday, with the Netherlands international putting pen to paper on a long-term deal before flying out to meet up with his new teammates in the USA.

The 25-year-old is Liverpool’s seventh new arrival of the summer, and Klopp is excited about the prospect of working with the versatile midfielder - who he says has the appetite to improve further at Anfield.

"I am so happy that we have got him and he can join us now in the USA,” the manager told Liverpoolfc.com.

“I think he can be a great player for us. He has already shown some really good moments in his career but the most exciting and important thing for me and my staff is that there is still so much extra to come from him.

“When I talked to him I could tell that he knows we have to work together to get this level out of him to all be successful for the team.”

Wijnaldum impressed in his first season in England following his move from PSV Eindhoven to Newcastle last summer, scoring 11 goals in 38 Premier League appearances despite the Magpies’ relegation.

And Klopp expects the experience of his new No.5 to stand him in good stead at Liverpool.

The boss added: “He has played a lot for his country already, been captain at a young age in Holland and also been involved in a tough Premier League season so this experience gives him a good foundation for the challenge here - which everybody knows is huge!

“He can play a few positions for us and players that come through the Dutch system usually have a good tactical understanding and flexibility. That's really important.

“I can't wait to get him on the training pitch and for the fans to see him play in a Liverpool shirt."

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/228713-klopp-wijnaldum-can-be-a-great-player-for-us
 
That's a lot longer ago to be honest.

He was probably just given a choice out of what was available.
 
At the risk of raining on the parade for a player I personally like, but I'm wondering why there wasn't more competition for his signature a year ago, after he won the best Dutch player of the year and captained PSV to the title? How come Newcastle got him for only £11M, are goal-scoring midfielders out of vogue or something?

This reminds me of Erikssen too - clearly a very good young player, proved everything he could in Holland (and in the CL playing for Ajax), you would think there would be a long line of suitors but in the end Spurs got him on the cheap with minimum of competition (only we provided some half-hearted competition, but Rodgers clealry wasn't keen on the player). Meanwhile comparable players out of Portugal or Ukraine were going for 2-3 times as much. Is there some prejudice now against the Dutch league, as if the stats and good performances from there somehow don't count? Or is it because Dutch agents refuse to "grease the wheels" in the same way Italian and Portuguese ones do?
 
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At the risk of raining on the parade for a player I personally like, but I'm wondering why there wasn't more competition for his signature a year ago, after he won the best Dutch player of the year and captained PSV to the title? How come Newcastle got him for only £11M, are goal-scoring midfielders out of vogue or something?

This reminds me of Erikssen too - clearly a very good player, but Spurs got him on the cheap with minimum of competition (only we provided some half-hearted competition, but Rodgers clealry wasn't keen on the player). Meanwhile comparable players out of Portugal or Ukraine were going for 2-3 times as much. Is there some prejudice now against the Dutch league, as if the stats from there don't count?

I thought I heard that wijnaldum was a bit of a plonker and didn't work very hard.
 
At the risk of raining on the parade for a player I personally like, but I'm wondering why there wasn't more competition for his signature a year ago, after he won the best Dutch player of the year and captained PSV to the title? How come Newcastle got him for only £11M, are goal-scoring midfielders out of vogue or something?

This reminds me of Erikssen too - clearly a very good young player, proved everything he could in Holland (and in the CL playing for Ajax), you would think there would be a long line of suitors but in the end Spurs got him on the cheap with minimum of competition (only we provided some half-hearted competition, but Rodgers clealry wasn't keen on the player). Meanwhile comparable players out of Portugal or Ukraine were going for 2-3 times as much. Is there some prejudice now against the Dutch league, as if the stats and good performances from there somehow don't count?

Yeah, it's odd. Depay had loads of clubs after him yet their scouts missed Wijnaldum who was at least as important to the title winning form and far more versatile.

Eriksen went really cheap as well because there was no competition for him. He's looked really good at Spurs but it's not surprising if you'd have watched him.

Middlesbrough got Fischer for a ridiculous price. If he stays fit he could well be bargain of the season.

What you do get out of the Eredivisie are youngish players with loads of actual games under them who have been trained in a technical way and often with an awareness of a few positions.
 
I thought I heard that wijnaldum was a bit of a plonker and didn't work very hard.

As if Markovic or, say, Lamela were proven workhorses with no doubts about their application and defensive contribution. Erikssen ran the most km among all midfielders in the Champions League that year, if I remember right - but still somehow people were describing his a bit of a pansy (proven wrong by his performances in the EPL).
 
Yeah, it's odd. Depay had loads of clubs after him yet their scouts missed Wijnaldum who was at least as important to the title winning form and far more versatile.

Eriksen went really cheap as well because there was no competition for him. He's looked really good at Spurs but it's not surprising if you'd have watched him.

Middlesbrough got Fischer for a ridiculous price. If he stays fit he could well be bargain of the season.

What you do get out of the Eredivisie are youngish players with loads of actual games under them who have been trained in a technical way and often with an awareness of a few positions.

I think playing in a league with more open, attacking play develops players better as well.

If young players have success attacking, then they have the confidence to build those attacking skills and add to their game in terms of flair and finesse. Whereas in more defensive leagues, players get shut down quickly and never have the confidence to develop those skills, and either abandon them entirely, or go for a more measured approach, thereby not maximizing on their talents.

So in terms of attacking player development, to succeed in a defensively oriented league, young players either need to be insanely talented, or insanely motivated from the start. Leagues with less defensive acumen, i.e. Dutch, Belgian, etc, allow for players to really develop and grow into their ability regardless of these factors.
 
I think playing in a league with more open, attacking play develops players better as well.

If young players have success attacking, then they have the confidence to build those attacking skills and add to their game in terms of flair and finesse. Whereas in more defensive leagues, players get shut down quickly and never have the confidence to develop those skills, and either abandon them entirely, or go for a more measured approach, thereby not maximizing on their talents.

So in terms of attacking player development, to succeed in a defensively oriented league, young players either need to be insanely talented, or insanely motivated from the start. Leagues with less defensive acumen, i.e. Dutch, Belgian, etc, allow for players to really develop and grow into their ability regardless of these factors.
You're right, yeah. A while back I was cycling around Katwijk and ended up at the Qwik Boys training ground which is where Dirk started out and where his kids train now. There were so many kids training on small pitches with tiny goals but with a lot of trainers teaching them and a lot of skill on display. So different to how the UK used to do it.
 
As if Markovic or, say, Lamela were proven workhorses with no doubts about their application and defensive contribution. Erikssen ran the most km among all midfielders in the Champions League that year, if I remember right - but still somehow people were describing his a bit of a pansy (proven wrong by his performances in the EPL).
Several times in the past I've had to correct seasoned posters on here claiming that Eriksen is 'lazy' even so after he'd played a good while in England proving the exact opposite.

It's apparently not only scouts and Rodgers that can completely fail to recognize talent when they see it..

PS City and Chelsea also wanted Eriksen but he turned them down if reports are to be believed - he was afraid to not get enough playing time.
 
Yeah, it's odd. Depay had loads of clubs after him yet their scouts missed Wijnaldum who was at least as important to the title winning form and far more versatile.

Eriksen went really cheap as well because there was no competition for him. He's looked really good at Spurs but it's not surprising if you'd have watched him.

Middlesbrough got Fischer for a ridiculous price. If he stays fit he could well be bargain of the season.

What you do get out of the Eredivisie are youngish players with loads of actual games under them who have been trained in a technical way and often with an awareness of a few positions.
..and add to that also quite competent defenders like Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Sami and more.

The Dutch league will always move in cycles, and right now it seems to be on the low in terms of potential top class players, but soon enough new talents will emerge and we really should be knowing all about them (like Kasper Dolberg from Ajax) trying not to copy the same mistakes we've made and thrive to close more of those extremely good deals we've also pulled off in that market. Like Suarez in particular.

PS I am thrilled to have the opportunity to be watching Fischer in the Prem (and Højbjerg) this Season and as you I reckon he could well become one of the coups of the Season (alongside Højbjerg for Soton). He could also get injured mind and struggle with the physical side of things and never really make it, but with the fee in mind it looks an incredible interesting signing for Boro. His potential is massive.
 
On topic.

I quite like this signing.

Wijnaldum defo got some of that x-factor the squad has been lacking ever since Suarez left. He might flop but there's also a good chance that he will become a success and a bit of a fans favorite. The few times I got to watch him last Season I think he looked really interesting, very direct, a goal threat and capable of creating chances out of nothing.
 
Very happy with this signing, we're building a very good side.

I see him more as an attacking midfielder, he's certainly better in the final third than he is defensively...adds pace and for a small lad he's very good in the air.

Karius Clyne Matip Lovren Moreno Can Wijnaldum Coutinho Mane Firmino Sturridge

Origi Henderson Markovic Lallana Sakho Grujic Milner Ings

The depth is there also.
 
Let's get Bazoer to go with him now so he doesn't feel weird when he's the only one having chocolate sprinkles for breakfast.
 
Yeah, it's odd. Depay had loads of clubs after him yet their scouts missed Wijnaldum who was at least as important to the title winning form and far more versatile.

Eriksen went really cheap as well because there was no competition for him. He's looked really good at Spurs but it's not surprising if you'd have watched him.

Middlesbrough got Fischer for a ridiculous price. If he stays fit he could well be bargain of the season.

What you do get out of the Eredivisie are youngish players with loads of actual games under them who have been trained in a technical way and often with an awareness of a few positions.

Could it be that the clubs that get them on the cheap are not really that high profile enough and therefore no one really knows or has worked out how good they are other than the buying clubs scouts ? - I mean if we go for a player I think the selling club leaks the fact to the press so other big clubs take note and maybe put in a counter-offer. It is the only thing that comes to mind for me or how else can one explain the price discrepancy between what we pay and what clubs like Southampton pay for a player. I really think we only pay the right money for a player if we buy from another big club, and also I do wonder if too if say a club like West Ham went and bought Lazar Markovic - would they have been charged the £20M we had to pay ? they may have got him for £11M.
 
I have had to skim read the last number of pages so am I right in thinking that Dirk said that he is hung like a horse?
This should interest Hendo surely?
 
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