France V Rep of Ireland - part deux
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lol
roy keane is a divvy.
roy keane is a divvy.
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lol
roy keane is a divvy.
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He's a pig-thick horrible cunt, and always has been.
lol
roy keane is a divvy.
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He's a pig-thick horrible cunt, and always has been.
i can't believe anyone would fucking employ the mental bell end.
Roy Keane might be a self-obsessed cunt of the highest order who obviously has his own agenda here, but he makes some valid points:
The Irishman, who made 65 appearances for the Republic as a player, continued: "If I'd been there in the dressing room after the game, I wouldn't be talking about the handball. I'd focus on why the defenders didn't clear it. They should've cleared it.
"I'd be more annoyed with my defenders and my goalkeeper than Thierry Henry. How can you let the ball bounce in your six-yard box? How can you let Thierry Henry get goal-side of you? If the ball goes into the six-yard box, where the hell is my goalkeeper?
"These are skills and lessons you learn as a schoolboy.
"Ireland had their chances in the two games and they never took them. They had chances at Croke Park (in the first leg) and they had chances on Wednesday.
"They didn't take them, but it's the usual FAI (Football Association of Ireland) reaction - 'we've been robbed, the honesty of the game...' It's rubbish."
And Keane pointed out that controversial decisions went Ireland's way in the qualifying campaign, not least a harsh penalty award against Georgia which helped them to clinch a 2-1 qualifying win in February.
"There was one match against Georgia where Ireland got a penalty and it was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen which changed the whole course of the game.
"I don't remember the FAI after the game saying we should give them a replay."
The FAI are handling the whole affair like children.
The Irishman, who made 65 appearances for the Republic as a player, continued: "If I'd been there in the dressing room after the game, I wouldn't be talking about the handball. I'd focus on why the defenders didn't clear it. They should've cleared it.
"I'd be more annoyed with my defenders and my goalkeeper than Thierry Henry. How can you let the ball bounce in your six-yard box? How can you let Thierry Henry get goal-side of you? If the ball goes into the six-yard box, where the hell is my goalkeeper?
"These are skills and lessons you learn as a schoolboy.
"Ireland had their chances in the two games and they never took them. They had chances at Croke Park (in the first leg) and they had chances on Wednesday.
"They didn't take them, but it's the usual FAI (Football Association of Ireland) reaction - 'we've been robbed, the honesty of the game...' It's rubbish."
And Keane pointed out that controversial decisions went Ireland's way in the qualifying campaign, not least a harsh penalty award against Georgia which helped them to clinch a 2-1 qualifying win in February.
"There was one match against Georgia where Ireland got a penalty and it was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen which changed the whole course of the game.
"I don't remember the FAI after the game saying we should give them a replay."
The FAI are handling the whole affair like children.
Keane should mind his own business.
For him to be blaming players for not clearing the danger is a bit rich considering that when his country needed him most he fucked off in a huff. He's hardly in the position to be lecturing others on what they should or could have done.
He's a self absorbed,horrible,bitter,conceited,nasty twat.
For him to be blaming players for not clearing the danger is a bit rich considering that when his country needed him most he fucked off in a huff. He's hardly in the position to be lecturing others on what they should or could have done.
He's a self absorbed,horrible,bitter,conceited,nasty twat.
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[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=37257.msg993086#msg993086 date=1258716718]
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[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=37257.msg993036#msg993036 date=1258714262]
I don't think the game should be replayed.. over 180 minutes, you can't replay the game on 1 incident.. but in a clear case of cheating like this.. one of two things NEEDS to happen to protect the integrity of the game:
1) Retrospective action - Henry should be banned for the next 5-10 international competitive matches. He clearly cheated, made a sacrifice for his country (in that his reputation has been tarnished) but should be suspended for the World Cup.
2) Prospective action - Video technology should be be brought in, to stop cheating like this in the future.
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A 5-10 match ban! That would be ridiculous. It was a handball - at worst a red-card offence, more likely a yellow. The only reason it's caused such a fuss is the circumstances and the fact that the referee missed it. Why should the player be blamed for that? Even one of the Irish players (Doyle, I think) admitted they would have done exactly the same in that situation. It's just instinct. Morally, he should have admitted it afterwards - but, again, most players wouldn't.
It would make much more sense to replay the game, but clearly it's not going to happen. Scapegoating Henry, however, is not the solution.
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I think the only reason it caused such a fuss is the fact that it eliminated Ireland for the world cup finals and allowed France to go.
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Which is precisely what I meant by 'the circumstances'.
Ibro, you can't give players different-length bans etc based on the consequences of their actions. If Ireland had equalised and gone through on penalties, that wouldn't lessen Henry's 'crime' in handling the ball. Equally, the fact that it led to a goal which eliminated Ireland from the WC is not directly the player's fault.
What if his goal had led to riots in the Irish section of the stand, during which someone was killed? Would Henry be charged with accessory to murder?
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Yeah.. I guess when you put it like that.. perhaps an automatic retrospective 3 game ban for any act of blatant cheating that went unnoticed would suffice. I certainly don't think the player should get off scot-free on the premise that "ah well, it's just part of the game and the ref should have noticed it".
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=37257.msg993086#msg993086 date=1258716718]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37257.msg993047#msg993047 date=1258714589]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=37257.msg993036#msg993036 date=1258714262]
I don't think the game should be replayed.. over 180 minutes, you can't replay the game on 1 incident.. but in a clear case of cheating like this.. one of two things NEEDS to happen to protect the integrity of the game:
1) Retrospective action - Henry should be banned for the next 5-10 international competitive matches. He clearly cheated, made a sacrifice for his country (in that his reputation has been tarnished) but should be suspended for the World Cup.
2) Prospective action - Video technology should be be brought in, to stop cheating like this in the future.
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A 5-10 match ban! That would be ridiculous. It was a handball - at worst a red-card offence, more likely a yellow. The only reason it's caused such a fuss is the circumstances and the fact that the referee missed it. Why should the player be blamed for that? Even one of the Irish players (Doyle, I think) admitted they would have done exactly the same in that situation. It's just instinct. Morally, he should have admitted it afterwards - but, again, most players wouldn't.
It would make much more sense to replay the game, but clearly it's not going to happen. Scapegoating Henry, however, is not the solution.
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I think the only reason it caused such a fuss is the fact that it eliminated Ireland for the world cup finals and allowed France to go.
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Which is precisely what I meant by 'the circumstances'.
Ibro, you can't give players different-length bans etc based on the consequences of their actions. If Ireland had equalised and gone through on penalties, that wouldn't lessen Henry's 'crime' in handling the ball. Equally, the fact that it led to a goal which eliminated Ireland from the WC is not directly the player's fault.
What if his goal had led to riots in the Irish section of the stand, during which someone was killed? Would Henry be charged with accessory to murder?
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Yeah.. I guess when you put it like that.. perhaps an automatic retrospective 3 game ban for any act of blatant cheating that went unnoticed would suffice. I certainly don't think the player should get off scot-free on the premise that "ah well, it's just part of the game and the ref should have noticed it".
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=37257.msg993154#msg993154 date=1258721396]
Keane should mind his own business.
For him to be blaming players for not clearing the danger is a bit rich considering that when his country needed him most he fucked off in a huff. He's hardly in the position to be lecturing others on what they should or could have done.
He's a self absorbed,horrible,bitter,conceited,nasty twat.
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X 100. And include the weasel S Ireland in that as well.
Keane should mind his own business.
For him to be blaming players for not clearing the danger is a bit rich considering that when his country needed him most he fucked off in a huff. He's hardly in the position to be lecturing others on what they should or could have done.
He's a self absorbed,horrible,bitter,conceited,nasty twat.
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X 100. And include the weasel S Ireland in that as well.
[quote author=themn link=topic=37257.msg993021#msg993021 date=1258713337]
Roy Keane is more pissed off that the Irish defence didn't clear the ball/let Henry in behind than the handball.
He's also just slagged off John Delainey and questioned his "honesty and integrity" - "What goes around, comes around".
He wouldn't call Henry a cheat.
You've GOT to see it !
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Yeah i just watched that on SSN and it was very amusing indeed.
Keane came across as still very bitter over the 2002 incident.
Roy Keane is more pissed off that the Irish defence didn't clear the ball/let Henry in behind than the handball.
He's also just slagged off John Delainey and questioned his "honesty and integrity" - "What goes around, comes around".
He wouldn't call Henry a cheat.
You've GOT to see it !
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Yeah i just watched that on SSN and it was very amusing indeed.
Keane came across as still very bitter over the 2002 incident.
[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=37257.msg993224#msg993224 date=1258723910]
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=37257.msg993154#msg993154 date=1258721396]
Keane should mind his own business.
For him to be blaming players for not clearing the danger is a bit rich considering that when his country needed him most he fucked off in a huff. He's hardly in the position to be lecturing others on what they should or could have done.
He's a self absorbed,horrible,bitter,conceited,nasty twat.
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X 100. And include the weasel S Ireland in that as well.
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They are both from Cork aren' they?
What did you expect 😉
Oh, and Niall, get off the fence and tell us how you really feel about Keane!
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=37257.msg993154#msg993154 date=1258721396]
Keane should mind his own business.
For him to be blaming players for not clearing the danger is a bit rich considering that when his country needed him most he fucked off in a huff. He's hardly in the position to be lecturing others on what they should or could have done.
He's a self absorbed,horrible,bitter,conceited,nasty twat.
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X 100. And include the weasel S Ireland in that as well.
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They are both from Cork aren' they?
What did you expect 😉
Oh, and Niall, get off the fence and tell us how you really feel about Keane!
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[quote author=Jack D Rips link=topic=37257.msg993224#msg993224 date=1258723910]
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=37257.msg993154#msg993154 date=1258721396]
Keane should mind his own business.
For him to be blaming players for not clearing the danger is a bit rich considering that when his country needed him most he fucked off in a huff. He's hardly in the position to be lecturing others on what they should or could have done.
He's a self absorbed,horrible,bitter,conceited,nasty twat.
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X 100. And include the weasel S Ireland in that as well.
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They are both from Cork aren' they?
What did you expect 😉
Oh, and Niall, get off the fence and tell us how you really feel about Keane!
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Yes they are both from Cork. And you know the definition of a modest Corkman. He just thinks hes as good as everyone else
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[quote author=Niall K link=topic=37257.msg993154#msg993154 date=1258721396]
Keane should mind his own business.
For him to be blaming players for not clearing the danger is a bit rich considering that when his country needed him most he fucked off in a huff. He's hardly in the position to be lecturing others on what they should or could have done.
He's a self absorbed,horrible,bitter,conceited,nasty twat.
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X 100. And include the weasel S Ireland in that as well.
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They are both from Cork aren' they?
What did you expect 😉
Oh, and Niall, get off the fence and tell us how you really feel about Keane!
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Yes they are both from Cork. And you know the definition of a modest Corkman. He just thinks hes as good as everyone else
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37257.msg993301#msg993301 date=1258727648]
Wenger and Henry both saying that a replay would be the best way to resolve this.
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To be expected at this stage. Funny how once FIFA have stated that there will be no replay, Henry comes out saying he sees it as being the best option. Just a PR excercise really.
I never thought there was any chance of it anyway.
Wenger and Henry both saying that a replay would be the best way to resolve this.
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To be expected at this stage. Funny how once FIFA have stated that there will be no replay, Henry comes out saying he sees it as being the best option. Just a PR excercise really.
I never thought there was any chance of it anyway.
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37257.msg993301#msg993301 date=1258727648]
Wenger and Henry both saying that a replay would be the best way to resolve this.
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To be expected at this stage. Funny how once FIFA have stated that there will be no replay, Henry comes out saying he sees it as being the best option. Just a PR excercise really.
I never thought there was any chance of it anyway.
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Yeah i think you're probably right (especially with regards to Henry), allthough to be fair to Wenger he was urging the French FA to ask FIFA for a replay.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37257.msg993301#msg993301 date=1258727648]
Wenger and Henry both saying that a replay would be the best way to resolve this.
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To be expected at this stage. Funny how once FIFA have stated that there will be no replay, Henry comes out saying he sees it as being the best option. Just a PR excercise really.
I never thought there was any chance of it anyway.
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Yeah i think you're probably right (especially with regards to Henry), allthough to be fair to Wenger he was urging the French FA to ask FIFA for a replay.
[quote author=the count link=topic=37257.msg993069#msg993069 date=1258715211]
I think it is true to say that the handball, wasn't in itself, a major transgression of the rules. It has just been magnified out of all proportion because of the consequences.
Robbie Keane deliberately handled the ball on a number of occasions during the match.
Are we to take it that he is less of a cheat than Thierry Henry purely because his actions were penalised and therefore didn't accrue any advantage for his team?
As for John Delaney (FAI President) and all the politicians calling for a replay/whatever, for once, painful though it is I am in agreement with Roy Keane, they are a bunch of bandjumping media whores toying with the emotions of Irish football fans and playing the populist card.
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Calling for a replay is horseshit and an embarrassment to Ireland. Incorrect decisions happen in most matches, it just happened to us in the most unfortunate of circumstances. We have to deal with it and move on..
Oh and most Irish players would have done what Henry did and I wouldn't have given two shiny shits once it got us to the World Cup. The man to blame in all of this is the linesman..
I think it is true to say that the handball, wasn't in itself, a major transgression of the rules. It has just been magnified out of all proportion because of the consequences.
Robbie Keane deliberately handled the ball on a number of occasions during the match.
Are we to take it that he is less of a cheat than Thierry Henry purely because his actions were penalised and therefore didn't accrue any advantage for his team?
As for John Delaney (FAI President) and all the politicians calling for a replay/whatever, for once, painful though it is I am in agreement with Roy Keane, they are a bunch of bandjumping media whores toying with the emotions of Irish football fans and playing the populist card.
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Calling for a replay is horseshit and an embarrassment to Ireland. Incorrect decisions happen in most matches, it just happened to us in the most unfortunate of circumstances. We have to deal with it and move on..
Oh and most Irish players would have done what Henry did and I wouldn't have given two shiny shits once it got us to the World Cup. The man to blame in all of this is the linesman..
I think thats who everyone is blaming actually
Its all a bit Neil warnock this. Just stop.
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Its all a bit Neil warnock this. Just stop.
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You can ignore it if you wish George
Its all a bit Neil warnock this. Just stop.
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You can ignore it if you wish George
Apparently the lino was english...
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[quote author=H link=topic=37257.msg992802#msg992802 date=1258672498]
I like the Irish in General, just not the majority on here, or the IRA for that matter! I dont have a racist bone in me, BUT I hate anything even slightly PC & love to play devils advocate. I would be quite happy for my son to marry a 'Darkie' or my Daughter (not my son to marry my daughter.....), I've dated Sri Lankans and Indians in the past.
Amazing what a few posts can lead people to believe. Ho Hum.
P.S. I FUCKING LOVE HENRY 🙂
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Can I have Moderator approval to reply to this the way I'd like to?
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PM the response, everyones a winner, or is it the attention you are after?
[quote author=H link=topic=37257.msg992802#msg992802 date=1258672498]
I like the Irish in General, just not the majority on here, or the IRA for that matter! I dont have a racist bone in me, BUT I hate anything even slightly PC & love to play devils advocate. I would be quite happy for my son to marry a 'Darkie' or my Daughter (not my son to marry my daughter.....), I've dated Sri Lankans and Indians in the past.
Amazing what a few posts can lead people to believe. Ho Hum.
P.S. I FUCKING LOVE HENRY 🙂
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Can I have Moderator approval to reply to this the way I'd like to?
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PM the response, everyones a winner, or is it the attention you are after?
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=37257.msg992830#msg992830 date=1258674918]
[quote author=H link=topic=37257.msg992802#msg992802 date=1258672498]
I like the Irish in General, just not the majority on here, or the IRA for that matter! I dont have a racist bone in me, BUT I hate anything even slightly PC & love to play devils advocate. I would be quite happy for my son to marry a 'Darkie' or my Daughter (not my son to marry my daughter.....), I've dated Sri Lankans and Indians in the past.
Amazing what a few posts can lead people to believe. Ho Hum.
P.S. I FUCKING LOVE HENRY 🙂
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Thats nice, I dont mind if my son marries a 'vanilla face'. Nothing wrong with that.
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Try reading Brendans post, he made the statement, i responded.
and surely it should be 'lighty'?
[quote author=H link=topic=37257.msg992802#msg992802 date=1258672498]
I like the Irish in General, just not the majority on here, or the IRA for that matter! I dont have a racist bone in me, BUT I hate anything even slightly PC & love to play devils advocate. I would be quite happy for my son to marry a 'Darkie' or my Daughter (not my son to marry my daughter.....), I've dated Sri Lankans and Indians in the past.
Amazing what a few posts can lead people to believe. Ho Hum.
P.S. I FUCKING LOVE HENRY 🙂
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Thats nice, I dont mind if my son marries a 'vanilla face'. Nothing wrong with that.
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Try reading Brendans post, he made the statement, i responded.
and surely it should be 'lighty'?
I think one of the things that is sensible in Keane's bitter cunty rant, is that why is the uproar predominantly at Henry?
I worked at a distribution center my first year out of college packing lorries in long shifts overnight. The way the place was set up was fundamentally unsafe. The laws in the US on ergonomics are some 60 years old because no one gives a fuck about workers in the US. For me it was good exercise and a decent paying short term 3 days a week job so I could save some money and afford weed and booze and throw parties while my parents were in England. For the older people it was their livelihood, and they were popping pain relievers all day, and had constant back pain.
Whenever anyone got injured, which given the massive size of the place, happened every day (hernias etc), they had to follow the law and do a report on it. They'd bleat on about "how could this injury have been avoided", and "use proper lifting technique" when every single person knew that at some point they had to do fundamentally unsafe things in order to meet quotas. It was lip service and a performance which ignored the primary cause.
The governing bodies of football are the primary cause of cheating. Sure, Henry cheated, and people should be disgusted with him, but it's just an unavoidable consequence of the situation that is allowed to exist, for no reason.
Eventually football will implement video replay, and it will have been many years too late. It won't affect the flow of the game any more than goal celebrations and surrounding refs do. People will still argue with calls, even those made under video replay evidence, just as people do on here. There will still be some imperfection to the game, but there won't be this. Countless games are fucked up every season due to this sort of thing, and you always hear nonsense about it "all evening out", which blatantly ignores both statistics, and the nature of a knock out tournament.
There will be countless incorrect calls made by refs in the world cup. There will be complaints about the refs, despite the fact that their job is impossible, there will be complaints about players cheating, but there won't be a concerted, non stop disgust with the status quo, and a unified call for video evidence that forces action.
I worked at a distribution center my first year out of college packing lorries in long shifts overnight. The way the place was set up was fundamentally unsafe. The laws in the US on ergonomics are some 60 years old because no one gives a fuck about workers in the US. For me it was good exercise and a decent paying short term 3 days a week job so I could save some money and afford weed and booze and throw parties while my parents were in England. For the older people it was their livelihood, and they were popping pain relievers all day, and had constant back pain.
Whenever anyone got injured, which given the massive size of the place, happened every day (hernias etc), they had to follow the law and do a report on it. They'd bleat on about "how could this injury have been avoided", and "use proper lifting technique" when every single person knew that at some point they had to do fundamentally unsafe things in order to meet quotas. It was lip service and a performance which ignored the primary cause.
The governing bodies of football are the primary cause of cheating. Sure, Henry cheated, and people should be disgusted with him, but it's just an unavoidable consequence of the situation that is allowed to exist, for no reason.
Eventually football will implement video replay, and it will have been many years too late. It won't affect the flow of the game any more than goal celebrations and surrounding refs do. People will still argue with calls, even those made under video replay evidence, just as people do on here. There will still be some imperfection to the game, but there won't be this. Countless games are fucked up every season due to this sort of thing, and you always hear nonsense about it "all evening out", which blatantly ignores both statistics, and the nature of a knock out tournament.
There will be countless incorrect calls made by refs in the world cup. There will be complaints about the refs, despite the fact that their job is impossible, there will be complaints about players cheating, but there won't be a concerted, non stop disgust with the status quo, and a unified call for video evidence that forces action.
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[quote author=the count link=topic=37257.msg993069#msg993069 date=1258715211]
I think it is true to say that the handball, wasn't in itself, a major transgression of the rules. It has just been magnified out of all proportion because of the consequences.
Robbie Keane deliberately handled the ball on a number of occasions during the match.
Are we to take it that he is less of a cheat than Thierry Henry purely because his actions were penalised and therefore didn't accrue any advantage for his team?
As for John Delaney (FAI President) and all the politicians calling for a replay/whatever, for once, painful though it is I am in agreement with Roy Keane, they are a bunch of bandjumping media whores toying with the emotions of Irish football fans and playing the populist card.
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The man to blame in all of this is the linesman..
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Bollocks.
The man to blame in all of this is the horrible cunt who cheated.
Why is everybody so fucking quick to blame defenders and goalkeepers and match officials and poor Irish finishing in all of this?
Henry cheated. The fact that lots of other players, our own included do it too, doesn't somehow make it ok.
I'd hate it if we'd won in this manner, and I'm sick that we lost this way too.
But I'm most sickened by the "It's not Henry's fault because (add bullshit excuse here)" brigade. He's a fucking cheat, and this mess is 100% his fault.
Note: The linesman should be fired for missing it though - You are right about that. And the initial offside too.
[quote author=the count link=topic=37257.msg993069#msg993069 date=1258715211]
I think it is true to say that the handball, wasn't in itself, a major transgression of the rules. It has just been magnified out of all proportion because of the consequences.
Robbie Keane deliberately handled the ball on a number of occasions during the match.
Are we to take it that he is less of a cheat than Thierry Henry purely because his actions were penalised and therefore didn't accrue any advantage for his team?
As for John Delaney (FAI President) and all the politicians calling for a replay/whatever, for once, painful though it is I am in agreement with Roy Keane, they are a bunch of bandjumping media whores toying with the emotions of Irish football fans and playing the populist card.
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The man to blame in all of this is the linesman..
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Bollocks.
The man to blame in all of this is the horrible cunt who cheated.
Why is everybody so fucking quick to blame defenders and goalkeepers and match officials and poor Irish finishing in all of this?
Henry cheated. The fact that lots of other players, our own included do it too, doesn't somehow make it ok.
I'd hate it if we'd won in this manner, and I'm sick that we lost this way too.
But I'm most sickened by the "It's not Henry's fault because (add bullshit excuse here)" brigade. He's a fucking cheat, and this mess is 100% his fault.
Note: The linesman should be fired for missing it though - You are right about that. And the initial offside too.
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[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=37257.msg993969#msg993969 date=1258757684]
...why is the uproar predominantly at Henry?
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Ali, if your car is stolen tonight, will you absolve the thief of the blame and curse the police who didn't catch him in the act?
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What a shit analogy.
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=37257.msg993969#msg993969 date=1258757684]
...why is the uproar predominantly at Henry?
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Ali, if your car is stolen tonight, will you absolve the thief of the blame and curse the police who didn't catch him in the act?
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What a shit analogy.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37257.msg994008#msg994008 date=1258758771]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=37257.msg993985#msg993985 date=1258758046]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=37257.msg993969#msg993969 date=1258757684]
...why is the uproar predominantly at Henry?
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Ali, if your car is stolen tonight, will you absolve the thief of the blame and curse the police who didn't catch him in the act?
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What a shit analogy.
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there's nothing worse than a shit analogy. there really isn't.
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=37257.msg993985#msg993985 date=1258758046]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=37257.msg993969#msg993969 date=1258757684]
...why is the uproar predominantly at Henry?
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Ali, if your car is stolen tonight, will you absolve the thief of the blame and curse the police who didn't catch him in the act?
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What a shit analogy.
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there's nothing worse than a shit analogy. there really isn't.
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[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=37257.msg993969#msg993969 date=1258757684]
...why is the uproar predominantly at Henry?
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Ali, if your car is stolen tonight, will you absolve the thief of the blame and curse the police who didn't catch him in the act?
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1) I didn't absolve the thief, I said "people should be disgusted with him"
But, to use your (shit) analogy, if I lived in an area that had car after car after car after car after fucking car stolen, by a succession of different thieves, and every time each incident occured the response was to say "I can't believe people nowadays thieving from their fellow man, how will our society survive" I'd be furious. If the response was simply to try to punish that particular thief, I'd be furious. I'd want authorities to try and actually provide easily available resources to stop a predictable immoral behavior by monitoring the area!
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=37257.msg993969#msg993969 date=1258757684]
...why is the uproar predominantly at Henry?
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Ali, if your car is stolen tonight, will you absolve the thief of the blame and curse the police who didn't catch him in the act?
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1) I didn't absolve the thief, I said "people should be disgusted with him"
But, to use your (shit) analogy, if I lived in an area that had car after car after car after car after fucking car stolen, by a succession of different thieves, and every time each incident occured the response was to say "I can't believe people nowadays thieving from their fellow man, how will our society survive" I'd be furious. If the response was simply to try to punish that particular thief, I'd be furious. I'd want authorities to try and actually provide easily available resources to stop a predictable immoral behavior by monitoring the area!
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