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For those saying that Kenny deserves another year

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I like the red part. You are absolutely right and that's what's wrong with the team. Hence why Suarez/Gerrard are being forced to get by three players in order for us to create a chance.
But we don't have the right personnel to play the way you want to us to play. We never did this season, despite Lucas, Agger and Gerrard getting injured.

we are defending deep with the reintroduction of carra, skrtel has moved over to the left to accomadate carra. gerrard is playing deeper since the injury of lucas and we haven't controlled the midfield since he has been playing there. we are making the system fit the players not the other way around and we are all over the place as a result. the difference when agger came on was stark, you could put some of that down to villa backing off to protect the lead but we definately pushed higher when agger was on the pitch.
 
You know and I know, that money and playing the CL is vital for a title challenging team in order A - generate money, B - attract top players, C - Keep them in the club.

How many different champions were there between 63-73?
The game isn't what it was 40-50 years ago.
 
So they weren't attacking in numbers but they conceded loads anyway.

Sounds like a genius plan. At least we haven't conceded loads while not attacking.

anyway even if chelsea were all over the place using those tactics to my mind they are the exception rather than rule. 'well, it didn't work for chelsea so it's obviously a bullshit tactic'. barca do and are kings of europe, atletico do it and tore manu (the champion elect) a new arsehole.
 
Do I have to explain that the tactics should suit the players at the club ?

Barca could beat anybody no matter what tactics Pep uses, and he has changed them regularly in the league.
 
You know and I know, that money and playing the CL is vital for a title challenging team in order A - generate money, B - attract top players, C - Keep them in the club.

How many different champions were there between 63-73?
The game isn't what it was 40-50 years ago.

maybe the game has changed but for me the prinicples are still the same and I'm sure if you were to look at all the leagues in world football you would see that clubs that have more consistancy with their managers have more success than clubs with a chop and change mentality. how is that mentality working out for real madrid?
 
Do I have to explain that the tactics should suit the players at the club ?

Barca could beat anybody no matter what tactics Pep uses, and he has changed them regularly in the league.

the players should fit the tactics not the other way round, going by what you say why bother having a director of football, the manager may as well purchase the players.
 
the players should fit the tactics not the other way round, going by what you say why bother having a director of football, the manager may as well purchase the players.

Yeah let's decided what tactics we want to use then sell all 22 players we have that don't suit the tactics and buy 22 new ones.
 
Yeah let's decided what tactics we want to use then sell all 22 players we have that don't suit the tactics and buy 22 new ones.

yeah, pretty much but at least you know that you will heading in the direction you want go and will never buy players that don't fit into the footballing model you want to build. it's a very long term plan but at least it isn't a plan you'll have to tear up every year or every five years depending on how long you give your manager.
 
He never kissed anyone's ass ... He just caught me on a good day.
Never kissed anyone's ass?
You're joking, right?
I guess you are feeling sorry for him and the beating he is about to receive starting tomorrow?
 
is it just me or does anyone else get the nagging impression that when people talk about a 'footballing philosophy' they really just mean 'playing like Barcelona'; and of the benefits of establishing our own 'footballing philsophy' they really mean 'winning loads of stuff like Barcelona'?

easier said than done.
 
is it just me or does anyone else get the nagging impression that when people talk about a 'footballing philosophy' they really just mean 'playing like Barcelona'; and of the benefits of establishing our own 'footballing philsophy' they really mean 'winning loads of stuff like Barcelona'?

easier said than done.

nope, I'm talking about pass and move. something that used to be synonymous with LFC. I will however conceed that pressing high up the pitch and in numbers is something I envy in barca but I saw rafa do it first with valencia when they gave us a footballing lesson at anfield.
 
What a cunt of a thread.

Fucking hell - Going through a rough patch with the missus ? Rather than attempting to improve things, sack her off and move on ?!

I don't want to hear you talk about being satisfied in 6 weeks time if we've won the FA cup or even just got to the final..
 
What a cunt of a thread.

Fucking hell - Going through a rough patch with the missus ? Rather than attempting to improve things, sack her off and move on ?!

devil's adovcate, should you stay with her if you see no long term future with her?
 
devil's adovcate, should you stay with her if you see no long term future with her?

Yeah, cause she fucking rocked your world a few years back and already gave you a good time at least once in the past 12 months..
 
heh, devils advocate. You have kids you've invested alot of love in... what d'yer do?

do you get rid and gamble you will find someone hotter even though you are way past your best and not as attractive as you used to be when all you had to do was flex your muscles and you could have any girl you wanted.
 
I'm done with helping. Usually after I've helped and its finished with, then I become useless to you and get discarded like an unwanted wife. So if I don't help you, then at least I'm going to be entertained as I watch you struggle on hopelessly out of your depth.
 
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