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I know I am. I mean, I don't even think they need to respond to the Premier League. Like the League is going to go anything against their soon-to-be treble winners.
Chelsea were reportedly keen on Santos (https://standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-santos-boehly-clearlake-b1025808.html) and Portimonense (https://standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-news-bid-rejected-portimonense-club-b1068759.html) too
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[article]On Saturday, Malaga were officially relegated to the Primera Federacion, following their 2-1 defeat to Alaves. 10 years since they were in the Champions League quarter-finals, they will now be playing in the third tier of Spanish football.
It has been a continuous downward spiral for Malaga, who were relegated from LaLiga in 2018, with investment from their Qatari owners having significantly dried up.
They finished third in their first season back in the second tier, although their failed to secure promotion after losing out in the play-offs.
From there, two seasons of finishing in lower mid-table were followed by narrowly avoiding relegation in 2021/22, finishing just above the drop zone in 18th. However, they couldn’t avoid that fate this season, and they will now play in the third tier of Spanish football for the first time since 1998.
It has been a sad state of affairs at Malaga for several years now, and it has now been compounded by their relegation from LaLiga2.[/article]
I think he knows they won't get (heavily) punished.
Obviously - he's not an idiot.
He would have left had they been banned from the CL.
He'd go tomorrow if he knows they'll be relegated docked points/titles etc.
He's all about his ego and he would never compromise his 'greatness'.
He's a fucking cunt of the highest order and he suits that team like a glove.
UEFA have allowed this to happen.
People got on their high horse about ESL but they are ok with a group of clubs being owned by a single entity. Whole thing is BS and understand it started in some form much earlier in some form with Udinese/Watford and Red Bull etc but currently this now a whole new level.
People got on their high horse about ESL but they are ok with a group of clubs being owned by a single entity. Whole thing is BS and understand it started in some form much earlier in some form with Udinese/Watford and Red Bull etc but currently this now a whole new level.
The real question is why we haven't bought satellite clubs ourselves. Our rivals are doing it, clubs of lesser status than us are doing it, we complain we're not acquiring young talent... And yet we do nothing.
Our financial model would never have allowed it.
I think it's time for a new model. With or without owning other clubs but it's time for something different. Or we need to go back to what was working. Aka having a plan.
If there was any chance, it would have been/would be RedBird Capital Partners who will do something like that, since they have shares in
- FSG
- AC Milan
- Toulouse
- FSG
- AC Milan
- Toulouse
FSG like to own multiile sports franchises, they aren’t focussed on a single sport. American owners tend to work that way and don’t think they have capital to change approach without huge investment. They would probably also strategically probably not align them to just football as probably see it as a risk.
It is equally a risk not to properly support the top level position of LFC. The Red Sox have farm teams to develop young talent (as most North American sports teams do, albeit not always same ownership).
FSG need either to buy a development club or build better relationships with other clubs to ensure a pipeline of new talent and develop our existing talent.
They certainly needed to do that before buying a hockey team (and I'm a Canadian who grew up loving hockey and supporting the Penguins).
Whatever happened to RougePenguin?
The biggest flaw in our plan we is wait till the last year of a players contract to start negotiating renewals and at that point they either renew on hugely inflated salaries or wait the season out and leave for free. Now imagine if we got an average of £10m for everyone of those that left for free, how much more cash would we have?
Even I know the best emerging talents are going to be cheap are in South America, North and West Africa... So set up football academies, talent will then come to you
Even I know the best emerging talents are going to be cheap are in South America, North and West Africa... So set up football academies, talent will then come to you
Wow. That's a name not heard round these parts for a long time.
It’s utter tosh that we wait till the last year of a players contract before starting negotiations.
The only people that applies to are oldies who we’re likely offering a one year extension to - Ie Milner or Bobby.
I don’t think we ever offered Ox a new contract but we definitely did offer Kieta a new deal well before his final year.
We’ve actually been great at ensuring contract renewals are sorted out early - look at the rest of the squad.
The problem is actually selling players - we don’t like doing that.
Not getting transfer fees for players like Ox and Keita, and failing to do more to keep Mane on a bit longer was criminal...
Also we need to be humble and study what Brighton are doing, they seem to have a great scouting team. Hopefully sending Agent Milner undercover will get us the password :/
Also we need to be humble and study what Brighton are doing, they seem to have a great scouting team. Hopefully sending Agent Milner undercover will get us the password :/
Selling Mane to Bayern might have been the only smart piece of business we have done in the last few years. He is definitely not worth the high wages he would have expected for a contract extension. It is everything else we ballsed up.
Correct.
We can’t complain about not selling players while also complaining about not trying to keep players longer.
Again - it’s not selling a player that’s the problem - it’s who you replace that player with that’s the question?
Selling Mane was the right thing to do - Nunez (if he was the replacement and not the “new Origi”) was not the right replacement.
I disagree about Mane, I think we sold him at the right time and honestly we should have sold Firmino too.
Also, every summer it's the annual "Liverpool free player giveaway" starring "shite player who should have been sold after 1-2 seasons", "mascot sicknote", "good old Trusty McTrusted" and "star player whose contract we should have sorted years ago".
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For me it's less a matter of having a totally new plan and more a matter of being less rigid about the current one. It's served us well till now and as a general rule financial prudence is a good thing, but it can go off the rails when a "computer says no" mentality takes over and insists on sticking to "what we've always done" regardless of changing circs. As you rightly say in another post, the time has come when increased investment is needed if we want to keep being successful (and the owners want to protect their investment).
So tell me why we have let so many players go on a free?
As to Nunez, despite not settling in yet, and having a language barrier he has scored 15 goals. The view was he would be embedded slowly into the squad, but due to injuries he was thrown into the deep end. When we bought him, I said it will take half a season to a season to see the best out of him.
Watch him next season, if given the games, he is scoring 20+ goals in the league.
Klopp knows what he has to do fix the squad, he has to remember CJ is a squad option not a starter. He needs to get 2-3, CB and RB
I hope Dunks not right, and we end up only getting 2 players as that's all the club can afford until investment arrives.
For me they can buy a player for £2m, if he fits the profile I am happy.
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