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I wonder how much Man City will now spend to get back on top spot? I think our net spend will be low if we keep VVD and Salah. I can see us selling quite a bit of academy talent though with the likes of Gordon, Morton and Ramsey being sold for a fee. I could even see Spanish Steve being sold on too
I think City's next move will depend on the 115 outcome. If they get away with it, they'll do whatever the fuck they like, which means spending a huge amount of money because they're going to need to strengthen everywhere across the pitch. Here's their first choice XI:

Ederson
Lewis
Gvardiol
Akanji / Stones
Dias
Rodri (who'll be well off the pace for at least 12 months)
Bernardo (legs gone?)
Foden
Savinho
Haaland
Egyptian Nunez

KdB is done, and out of contract. Been a great player, and aside for who he's played for, doesn't seem to be a cunt. Wish him well earning some Saudi dollars and glad he won't be putting us to the sword any more. Some of the above are injury prone, Doku and Grealish just don't fit.
If I'm Pep, I keep Ederson, Gvardiol, Akanji, Dias, Rodri, Foden, Haaland. Egyptian Nunez is on probation. The rest are squad players now, any of them can go. And I'd want proper first choice players to fill the gap. I'd even look at a specialist left back and move Gvardiol back into the centre.
That's a lot of spending. At least 5 first teamers. They can write off next season while those players bed in and Rodri tries to ease back to his former level after his injury.
And if they lose 115, and I hope to God they do, then all bets are off.
 
I think City's next move will depend on the 115 outcome. If they get away with it, they'll do whatever the fuck they like, which means spending a huge amount of money because they're going to need to strengthen everywhere across the pitch. Here's their first choice XI:

Ederson
Lewis
Gvardiol
Akanji / Stones
Dias
Rodri (who'll be well off the pace for at least 12 months)
Bernardo (legs gone?)
Foden
Savinho
Haaland
Egyptian Nunez

KdB is done, and out of contract. Been a great player, and aside for who he's played for, doesn't seem to be a cunt. Wish him well earning some Saudi dollars and glad he won't be putting us to the sword any more. Some of the above are injury prone, Doku and Grealish just don't fit.
If I'm Pep, I keep Ederson, Gvardiol, Akanji, Dias, Rodri, Foden, Haaland. Egyptian Nunez is on probation. The rest are squad players now, any of them can go. And I'd want proper first choice players to fill the gap. I'd even look at a specialist left back and move Gvardiol back into the centre.
That's a lot of spending. At least 5 first teamers. They can write off next season while those players bed in and Rodri tries to ease back to his former level after his injury.
And if they lose 115, and I hope to God they do, then all bets are off.
It’s been reported (by some shite City twitter knobs) that there are 7 players told to find new clubs. De Bruyne (obviously), Ederson, Stones, Grealish, Bernardo and Gündogan are the ones I remember.

De Bruyne is off to San Diego Earthquakes or something like that.
 
I think City's next move will depend on the 115 outcome. If they get away with it, they'll do whatever the fuck they like, which means spending a huge amount of money because they're going to need to strengthen everywhere across the pitch. Here's their first choice XI:

Ederson
Lewis
Gvardiol
Akanji / Stones
Dias
Rodri (who'll be well off the pace for at least 12 months)
Bernardo (legs gone?)
Foden
Savinho
Haaland
Egyptian Nunez

KdB is done, and out of contract. Been a great player, and aside for who he's played for, doesn't seem to be a cunt. Wish him well earning some Saudi dollars and glad he won't be putting us to the sword any more. Some of the above are injury prone, Doku and Grealish just don't fit.
If I'm Pep, I keep Ederson, Gvardiol, Akanji, Dias, Rodri, Foden, Haaland. Egyptian Nunez is on probation. The rest are squad players now, any of them can go. And I'd want proper first choice players to fill the gap. I'd even look at a specialist left back and move Gvardiol back into the centre.
That's a lot of spending. At least 5 first teamers. They can write off next season while those players bed in and Rodri tries to ease back to his former level after his injury.
And if they lose 115, and I hope to God they do, then all bets are off.

Is it really as bad as all that?

Initial impressions are that they've spent well this Jan.

Savinho is only 20 so has time to develop. Doku is probably a squad player to run at tired legs as things stand, yeah.

Rodri back (assuming he can get back to previous levels), Haaland fit and firing along with maybe one or two top class signings and they suddenly look pretty dangerous again.

I wonder if he'll look to replace Ederson this summer.
 
grealish is 29 and on £300k, he has over 2 years left on his contract. I mean even if he is available for a low fee, who other than Man U will pay him £300k a week?
 
Is it really as bad as all that?

Initial impressions are that they've spent well this Jan.

Savinho is only 20 so has time to develop. Doku is probably a squad player to run at tired legs as things stand, yeah.

Rodri back (assuming he can get back to previous levels), Haaland fit and firing along with maybe one or two top class signings and they suddenly look pretty dangerous again.

I wonder if he'll look to replace Ederson this summer.
My thinking is that if you had their spending power and felt humiliated being handed your arse every other week this year, would you settle for a player who is less than 90% of what you need in that position? Because a lot of their players are 70% at best. That's fine for a squad player, but if you want to get back to the very top then a lot of their players aren't good enough any more (and some of them never were and some of them never will be).
With their expectations, realistic or not, I think that it really is as bad as all that.
 
You can add to City’s woes whether Pep is likely to stay past this season or whether he’s the right man to do a rebuild - he’s more of a “let’s buy some expensive fancy furniture for an already good home” than a “let’s knock some walls down and renovate” sort of guy.

It look ms like he’s getting incredibly frustrated having to work with “inferior” players that struggle with his coaching style.

Plus.. he’s divorced, so he‘ll be trying to shag all the players wives/girlfriends/dogs.
 
The Athletic:

It’s too early to say just how much of an impact any potential renewals will have because that depends largely on what happens with Salah, Van Dijk and Alexander-Arnold.

If Liverpool need to replace all three of these key players, they will have to set a huge amount of money aside to fund the rebuild. Likewise, if one, two, or even all three of those players stay, they will be signing on huge terms, which will add to an already growing wage bill, expected to be confirmed in the next set of official accounts.

As the money is all coming from the same pot, it should be noted that an increased wage bill will inevitably reduce the amount of money available to spend on transfers.

Liverpool’s financial position is improving, though.

When figures for the Deloitte Football Money League were announced last month, it showed that total revenue was up to around €714million (£600m; $750m) for 2023-24, an increase on the previous season, which had stood at €683m. Much of that was down to a €45m increase in commercial revenue and a €29m boost to matchday revenue, helped by the opening of the new Anfield Road Stand. A €42m drop in broadcast revenue, however, highlighted a missed opportunity after Liverpool failed to qualify for the 2023-24 Champions League.

The return to the elite-level European competition this year should significantly increase the club’s revenue. Liverpool are already set to bank at least €100million in Champions League prize money, with a further €56.5m to play for. Add in the start of a new kit deal with Adidas and the impact of record-breaking matchday revenue and it’s clear why the figures next season should look even more favourable.

That should then give the club the freedom to stretch the wage bill even further while remaining competitive in the transfer market.
 
The Athletic don’t half write some waffle.

If they stay they need wages and signing on fees. That reduces how much the club has to spend.

No fucking shit. They also need to sign fewer fucking players so it makes little difference.
 
Official announcement on 2024 accounts. The loss is a bit higher than I thought it would be. I will try to get hold of them and do a thread in due course, but they may not be available until next week. Obviously there is spin in the below.

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Summary of the financial period
  • Media revenue fell by £38 million to £204 million
  • Matchday revenue rose by £22 million to £102 million
  • Commercial revenue rose by £36 million to £308 million
  • Administrative costs rose by £38 million to £600 million
  • Overall revenue rose by £20 million to £614 million
  • Loss before tax was £57 million
Media revenue dropped by £38 million, which is mainly related to the club’s participation in the Europa League competition compared to the Champions League in the previous season. This was partially offset by increased Premier League media revenue as a result of stronger on-pitch performance in the 2023-24 season.

The new Anfield Road Stand opened in this reporting period and a higher number of competitive games played at Anfield contributed to a £22 million increase in matchday revenue. But it was the commercial operations that had the largest uplift in revenue, increasing by £36 million to £308 million, with strong growth in partnerships and retail.

Four new global partners were signed during this period – UPS, Google Pixel, Peloton and Orion Innovation – with Kodansha and Carlsberg extending their existing partnerships. Retail recorded record revenues across its seven global locations, which included a new store opening in Dublin. E-commerce also saw significant growth with more than one million downloads of the official LFC Store app, which represents nearly 20 per cent of e-commerce sales.

LFC’s Membership scheme grew to more than 250,000 supporters during last season, which is a club record from the previous season.

Records were also broken across the club’s digital infrastructure, with LFC becoming the most-engaged Premier League club, generating 1.5 billion social media fan engagements. The club also added a record 37 million new followers to its social channels, with the new WhatsApp channel becoming the fastest-growing platform. According to Brand Finance’s 2024 report, LFC has the strongest brand in the Premier League.

Despite the increase in revenues, administrative costs increased significantly to £600 million, which is mainly related to salaries and overhead costs across the club, which supported the increase in commercial revenues and the increased number of matchdays compared to the prior period.

On the pitch, the men’s team added four new players during this period – Alexis Mac Allister, Dominik Szoboszlai, Wataru Endo and Ryan Gravenberch – and 11 contracts were extended, including Kostas Tsimikas, Conor Bradley and Ben Doak. For the women’s team, seven new players signed – Natasha Flint, Jenna Clark, Mia Enderby, Teagan Micah, Grace Fisk, Marie Höbinger and Sophie Roman Haug – and five contracts were extended, including Niamh Fahey, Yana Daniels and Ceri Holland.

LFC Foundation also reported significant results during this period on its impact on the community. It supported more than 127,000 people, contributed more than £13 million of added benefit into the Liverpool City Region and generated a social value of more than £90 million, including £56 million in health benefits during last season. For every £1 spent, LFC Foundation created a social value return of £13.70.

The Red Way, which is the club’s wider environmental, social and governance (ESG) programme, also won multiple awards throughout this reporting period and is widely recognised as the best sustainability programme in football.

Jenny Beacham, LFC’s chief financial officer, said: “Operating a financially sustainable club continues to be our priority and, with the continued increase in costs, it’s essential to grow income streams year on year to maintain financial stability. The success of our commercial operations, together with the opening of the new Anfield Road Stand, has increased our revenues during this reporting period, which demonstrates our desire to continue to compete at the highest levels of football in the men’s and women’s games.

“The global appeal of this football club continues to be phenomenal and is the underlying strength and opportunity we have for continued growth. We also take our social responsibilities seriously, using our global appeal to increase our community impact and sustainability efforts, in which we are leading the way across the football industry.

“We will continue to operate in accordance with football’s financial rules and regulations while maintaining investment opportunities in our operations, infrastructure and players. Our focus right now is to finish this season as strong as possible, both on and off the pitch, to fulfil our collective ambitions for success.”
 

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Couple of bits I picked up at the Price of Football event at Liverpool Uni tonight.

Firstly, a lot of the national papers reckon 115/130 ruling will be out on Friday. But it’s not the first time rumours of this kind have surfaced so take with a pinch of salt.

Secondly, City are apparently very bullish about the outcome, although the PL also reckon they’ve won on some aspects too (possibly the older stuff, like Mancini’s dodgy deal on the side with ADUG). It’s worth remembering that the PL don’t expect to win on all 115/130 charges. They charged City with everything they thought could apply, because City had not given them the info they needed to narrow the charges down. City will likely claim that a small number of wins for the PL with most charges not found is a win for them, but it wouldn’t be really. Any decision for the PL is a loss for City, and that’s how it should be looked at.

My personal take is that a decision in favour of City on Friday is a strong possibility because it’s my birthday on Friday and life has been serving me shit sandwiches for breakfast, lunch and tea for quite some time now. Scouse readers will notice I didn’t say “dinner” because fuck knows what that even means.

May come to nothing but thought I’d share.
 
Couple of bits I picked up at the Price of Football event at Liverpool Uni tonight.

Firstly, a lot of the national papers reckon 115/130 ruling will be out on Friday. But it’s not the first time rumours of this kind have surfaced so take with a pinch of salt.

Secondly, City are apparently very bullish about the outcome, although the PL also reckon they’ve won on some aspects too (possibly the older stuff, like Mancini’s dodgy deal on the side with ADUG). It’s worth remembering that the PL don’t expect to win on all 115/130 charges. They charged City with everything they thought could apply, because City had not given them the info they needed to narrow the charges down. City will likely claim that a small number of wins for the PL with most charges not found is a win for them, but it wouldn’t be really. Any decision for the PL is a loss for City, and that’s how it should be looked at.

My personal take is that a decision in favour of City on Friday is a strong possibility because it’s my birthday on Friday and life has been serving me shit sandwiches for breakfast, lunch and tea for quite some time now. Scouse readers will notice I didn’t say “dinner” because fuck knows what that even means.

May come to nothing but thought I’d share.
I doubt the press will spin it that way so they keep their press passes at City events.

I saw something the other day that said no matter what they are found guilty of will have punishments applied. The panel don’t have that authority. So we will have a case of the verdict, then no doubt any appeals from both sides, and then the punishment.
 
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