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Firminio doesn't need to up his goal tally..

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Big season for Firmino, he defo needs more goals but I reckon he'll improve there.

Of course Sanchez would be better, coz he's fucking brilliant. Firmino is just very very good, up to now
 
Right, so you agree with me too. Funny way of showing it, but hey ho.

Your position on Firmino fluctuates (hell, even in this thread alone!), so it's kind of hard not to be aligned with one of your views.

For example:

I disagree with your view where you said he's shit.

But I agree with your view where you said you don't think he's shit.
 
This isn't vague or in need of a proper German translation:

"“With Roberto Firmino, people say he does not score enough. What?!” he told Goal‘s Melissa Reddy.

“He is the best player without scoring with how well he reads the game for the benefit of others. Outstanding!"


That's quite clearly Klopp saying criticism of Firmino's goalscoring are wrong.

...because the criticism neglects the other things which he does very well and which are of great benefit to the team. Nowhere does he say Firmino couldn't improve his own scoring record, just that it isn't the be-all and end-all for him.
 
How would you define "good" Mystic?

Same prediction as you made last season? ie wrong?
I didn't make a prediction, I made a statement about the amount of goals I'd like to see him scoring, which was around about 15. His current level is good, as is evidenced by how well our attack played last season, and how integral his movement and passing was to that attack, but your current stance implies he's a passenger in our attack, or worse, a burden, which is utter horse shit. If Firmino started scoring 15+ goals a season he would be one of the best players in the league considering his all round game, I don't think you've quite grasped that concept, he's already a solid player for us, he can improve and I hope he does, but you consistently trying to imply he's not good enough is simply wrong.
 
"I didn't make a prediction, I made a statement about the amount of goals I'd like to see him scoring"

Yes you did.

"I'm confident Firmino will get 15"

That's a prediction that Firmino would score 15 league goals. Made by you. "Confidently", apparently. In November.

Next
 
"I didn't make a prediction, I made a statement about the amount of goals I'd like to see him scoring"

Yes you did.

"I'm confident Firmino will get 15"

That's a prediction that Firmino would score 15 league goals. Made by you. "Confidently", apparently. In November.

Next

Here's yours for last season

1. Who wins the Premier league ? United

2.Where will Leicester finish ? 7th

3. Where will we finish ? 6th

4. Who will be our top scorer in the league ? Sturridge

5. Who scores more league goals - Vardy or Zlatan ? Vardy

6. First manager sacked ? Whoever Hull employ

7. Who finishes bottom ? Hull

8. What player, new to the Premiership, will surprise everyone ? Bit vague this, but Kapustka or Musa

9. Who receives the most yellow cards for the season ? Flanagan

10. Which team concedes the most goals ? Hull

11. Who finishes higher - Pep or Jose ? Mourinho
 
"I didn't make a prediction, I made a statement about the amount of goals I'd like to see him scoring"

Yes you did.

"I'm confident Firmino will get 15"

That's a prediction that Firmino would score 15 league goals. Made by you. "Confidently", apparently. In November.

Next
Okay? I don't understand what you're trying to prove here, I've already stated that I want to see him score more goals. Would like to see a link to this prediction anyway, because unlike you I'm not terrified of things I said in the past to the point i'll attempt to convince everyone that it never happened, i'll happily concede my prediction was wrong if thats the case. Not sure how this relates to your inability to rate what Firmino brings to the team though as we are both in agree regarding goalscoring, seems like you're trying to deflect, again.
 
Here's yours for last season

1. Who wins the Premier league ? United

2.Where will Leicester finish ? 7th

3. Where will we finish ? 6th

4. Who will be our top scorer in the league ? Sturridge

5. Who scores more league goals - Vardy or Zlatan ? Vardy

6. First manager sacked ? Whoever Hull employ

7. Who finishes bottom ? Hull

8. What player, new to the Premiership, will surprise everyone ? Bit vague this, but Kapustka or Musa

9. Who receives the most yellow cards for the season ? Flanagan

10. Which team concedes the most goals ? Hull

11. Who finishes higher - Pep or Jose ? Mourinho
Next.
 
Here's yours for last season

1. Who wins the Premier league ? United

2.Where will Leicester finish ? 7th

3. Where will we finish ? 6th

4. Who will be our top scorer in the league ? Sturridge

5. Who scores more league goals - Vardy or Zlatan ? Vardy

6. First manager sacked ? Whoever Hull employ

7. Who finishes bottom ? Hull

8. What player, new to the Premiership, will surprise everyone ? Bit vague this, but Kapustka or Musa

9. Who receives the most yellow cards for the season ? Flanagan

10. Which team concedes the most goals ? Hull

11. Who finishes higher - Pep or Jose ? Mourinho

Come on. Give the lad credit. On both the question on Vardy and Mourinho he came quite close.....
 
Here's yours for last season

1. Who wins the Premier league ? United

2.Where will Leicester finish ? 7th

3. Where will we finish ? 6th

4. Who will be our top scorer in the league ? Sturridge

5. Who scores more league goals - Vardy or Zlatan ? Vardy

6. First manager sacked ? Whoever Hull employ

7. Who finishes bottom ? Hull

8. What player, new to the Premiership, will surprise everyone ? Bit vague this, but Kapustka or Musa

9. Who receives the most yellow cards for the season ? Flanagan

10. Which team concedes the most goals ? Hull

11. Who finishes higher - Pep or Jose ? Mourinho

Found this nugget too

"I'm most confident in Karius"
 
As much as I love to debate with Brendan like the rest of you, he is bang on about Firmino. He is NOT a good finisher and should only be starting behind one. You may argue he does more than score goals but please enlighten me... he is a striker!
 
Here's yours for last season

1. Who wins the Premier league ? United

2.Where will Leicester finish ? 7th

3. Where will we finish ? 6th

4. Who will be our top scorer in the league ? Sturridge

5. Who scores more league goals - Vardy or Zlatan ? Vardy

6. First manager sacked ? Whoever Hull employ

7. Who finishes bottom ? Hull

8. What player, new to the Premiership, will surprise everyone ? Bit vague this, but Kapustka or Musa

9. Who receives the most yellow cards for the season ? Flanagan

10. Which team concedes the most goals ? Hull

11. Who finishes higher - Pep or Jose ? Mourinho

Nobody did better than that in the Predictions thread. What were yours?

Admittedly, I don't usually indulge in those, and save my predictions for all things to do with Liverpool, which I'm an expert on.

I'm still quite sad about that Sturridge prediction, but I stupidly thought he might stay fit and also that Klopp would play our best goalscorer more often.
 
Okay? I don't understand what you're trying to prove here, I've already stated that I want to see him score more goals. Would like to see a link to this prediction anyway, because unlike you I'm not terrified of things I said in the past to the point i'll attempt to convince everyone that it never happened, i'll happily concede my prediction was wrong if thats the case. Not sure how this relates to your inability to rate what Firmino brings to the team though as we are both in agree regarding goalscoring, seems like you're trying to deflect, again.

No, you claimed you wanted him to score 15 goals, but didn't make any predictions.

I just proved you did.
 
As much as I love to debate with Brendan like the rest of you, he is bang on about Firmino. He is NOT a good finisher and should only be starting behind one. You may argue he does more than score goals but please enlighten me... he is a striker!

I suppose the argument goes he is not a striker. He is a lynchpin in an attacking three. So he is a forward, not a centre forward.
 
Found this nugget too

"I'm most confident in Karius"

Yes, although I did mention I'd never seen him play. Odd that you edited out the other part of the sentence, in which I correctly stated Mane was going to score lots of goals.

Although I had seen him play, and was delighted we signed him because it was obvious how good he was.
 
Yes, although I did mention I'd never seen him play. Odd that you edited out the other part of the sentence, in which I correctly stated Mane was going to score lots of goals.

Although I had seen him play, and was delighted we signed him because it was obvious how good he was.
1 out of 3 ain't bad I suppose. Still haven't seen that link.
 
Nobody did better than that in the Predictions thread. What were yours?

Admittedly, I don't usually indulge in those, and save my predictions for all things to do with Liverpool, which I'm an expert on.

I'm still quite sad about that Sturridge prediction, but I stupidly thought he might stay fit and also that Klopp would play our best goalscorer more often.


Here's the only ones I made on the site pre season, I got citeh and arse mixed up

I reckon it's so hard to call this year but I can defo see it going tits up at both manc clubs.

Can see huge improvement at Chelsea and us, Spurs and Arse to join us in the top 4. It's not ballsy but whatevers, I reckon that's the top 4 with both mancs out of it.


But this is more about you pulling someone else up for being a bit wrong in a prediction, when you're constantly hugely wrong all the time.
 
No, you didn't.

You said he did. You have proven fuck all.

erm....next?

What are you on about CreepyOli?

Liverpool vs Watford match thread, Nov 6th, post number 221

Mystic: "Barring serious injury I'm confident Firmino will get 15"

What more proof do you need? It's there. Written by him. In the thread.

Next.
 
What are you on about CreepyOli?

Liverpool vs Watford match thread, Nov 6th, post number 221

Mystic: "Barring serious injury I'm confident Firmino will get 15"

What more proof do you need? It's there. Written by him. In the thread.

Next.
Cool, so where's that link?
 
Here's the only ones I made on the site pre season, I got citeh and arse mixed up

I reckon it's so hard to call this year but I can defo see it going tits up at both manc clubs.

Can see huge improvement at Chelsea and us, Spurs and Arse to join us in the top 4. It's not ballsy but whatevers, I reckon that's the top 4 with both mancs out of it.


But this is more about you pulling someone else up for being a bit wrong in a prediction, when you're constantly hugely wrong all the time.

A bit wrong? He's denied ever saying it, and yet obviously did.
 
Was anyone close with their predictions?
I think I had Spurs to win the league?
I had 4/11 🙁

Chelsea to win
LFC 3rd or 4th
Hull concede most goals
Pep finish higher than Mourinho

It's not as easy as we all like to think.
 
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