European Super League

[StevieM]

Hang on. When was the last time one of the Big Six were relegated ... was it United umpteen years ago? Then no relegation in the ESL will be no different for the 6 English clubs anyway. And who really gives a shit which three different (promoted) teams we get to play each season.

I think Man City were the most relegated team ever from the top flight of English football.

It wasn’t that long since they were relegated down 2 divisions.

They were proper shit, but it was possible to have a soft spot for them.

Now look at the pack of c**ts.

 

[davud graham]

I had to laugh when I read an article about Ubercunt Christian Purslow being against the super league. "These proposals do away with sporting merit," Purslow told BBC Radio 4.
This is the same shitbag that would have happily null and voided last season as it would have saved Villa any chance of being relegated.
No doubt Karren Brady has similarly adaptable views.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

 

[Grjt2]

You're right FSG have been pushing for more control (and therefore more money) from broadcasting rights for years. They tried with the foreign TV markets but failed to get enough backing from other premier league clubs as for most of them it would be like Turkeys voting for Christmas. Why back an idea they gets you less money?
It's like a spoilt kid at his birthday party wanting to be the only one with jelly and ice cream and wondering why he has no friends.

Similarly, they will argue, how many of the fan base would continue to work for an organisation that paid them 50% of what you categorically knew you could earn elsewhere, simply because it was good for everyone else at that organisation. Especially given the catastrophic drop in income incurred over the last year. It’s a bullshit argument but it will get trotted out, with a shrug and a “that’s market forces” mutter

 

[Markeh]

Sky sports have an anonymous board member from one of the 6 clubs giving inside info.

Finance first, the good of the game second. They want less football. Owners expect backlash. It’s on YouTube

 

[Halmeister]

There should definitely be less football. But I doubt that's anywhere near the top of their concern. Money and power will be occupying the first few dozen positions in that list.

 

[Markeh]

 

[StevieM]

I don’t get this at all.

Surely all that’s happen is the top clubs will get more money, have that income protected and then City, Chelsea, Barca & Real will just top that up even more with money from wherever, so that they win the feckin thing every year - meanwhile pricing everyone else out of the market for the top end players.

Added to that - you can be sure as fuck, the first thing owners like ours will do is up the ticket prices for their new “premium competition”.

That saying - it’s the fault of the arseholes in charge of domestic leagues & UEFA that created a situation whereby any sense of fairness that ever existed by creating a scenario that allowed teams to spend whatever the fuck they wanted in an attempt secure success.

I don’t much like AFL, but fuck me, they have a system in place the allows practically every team a shot at being competitive and absolutely ensures that one or 2 teams can’t dominate the league- no transfer fees, salary caps and the teams that finish lowest in the league get to pick the best young or released players in the draft for the following season (I don’t watch US sports - but imagine it’s similar).

Not that that would work for football - too much uncertainty for owners - but it might make it interesting for a change.

 

[Frogfish]

Ahahaha Christ Almighty.

Ander Herrera at PSG :

blah blah blah ... "but not in the rich stealing what the people created".

 

[dantes]

I don’t get this at all.

Surely all that’s happen is the top clubs will get more money, have that income protected and then City, Chelsea, Barca & Real will just top that up even more with money from wherever, so that they win the feckin thing every year - meanwhile pricing everyone else out of the market for the top end players.

Added to that - you can be sure as fuck, the first thing owners like ours will do is up the ticket prices for their new “premium competition”.

That saying - it’s the fault of the arseholes in charge of domestic leagues & UEFA that created a situation whereby any sense of fairness that ever existed by creating a scenario that allowed teams to spend whatever the fuck they wanted in an attempt secure success.

I don’t much like AFL, but fuck me, they have a system in place the allows practically every team a shot at being competitive and absolutely ensures that one or 2 teams can’t dominate the league- no transfer fees, salary caps and the teams that finish lowest in the league get to pick the best young or released players in the draft for the following season (I don’t watch US sports - but imagine it’s similar).

Not that that would work for football - too much uncertainty for owners - but it might make it interesting for a change.

That's your woke optimism deluding your brain. Far worse will happen. Nobody likes an uncompetitive monopoly run by cartels. Most times they have no choice but to accept it, because the monopoly is the only supplier of oil, or jobs. In this case, the monopoly is a game of football, perhaps once you could argue that it was an absolute need that you couldn't go without. Not anymore. The owners don't seem to have figured this slight flaw with their plan out yet, and seem to be under the delusional belief that their monopoly will turn out just like opec's.

 

[Lippy]

I smell completely fabricated bullshit

 

[dantes]

I smell completely fabricated bullshit

That's the other flaw. Sky can say what the fuck they want to utterly defame and destroy their competition, as long as it is on a "news" show relaying what their "sources" told them. The super league can't say a god damn thing against sky, or they'll get sued to shit over it.

 

[Markeh]

I smell completely fabricated bullshit

yea nothing you couldn’t have made up yourself

 

[jan]

The Indykaila legal team are on it

 

[LeTallecWiz]

 

[Markeh]

I’d love it if nobody watched these new league(s) and they fell flat on their faces

 

[StevieM]

That's your woke optimism deluding your brain. Far worse will happen. Nobody likes an uncompetitive monopoly run by cartels. Most times they have no choice but to accept it, because the monopoly is the only supplier of oil, or jobs. In this case, the monopoly is a game of football, perhaps once you could argue that it was an absolute need that you couldn't go without. Not anymore. The owners don't seem to have figured this slight flaw with their plan out yet, and seem to be under the delusional belief that their monopoly will turn out just like opec's.

“My woke optimism”.

Jesus Dantes!!! - I don’t know how you interpret that as me being optimistic about this shit fest.

The only optimism I have is, if it doesn’t happen and a more engaging way to make the game more competitive and interesting can be found that doesn’t revolve around who can spend the most.

If that’s “woke”, then I dread to think what the opposite is.

 

[Farkmaster]

Surely this just ends with some tv rights getting renegotiated.

The fact that it's happening now while the supporters can't protest is just about perfect. It's taken a pandemic to lay bare what this whole football thing looks like naked, and it's not pretty.

I don't think I even like football. I didn't get into football because it's so great, I got into it because I loved my daddy and wanted to be on his team. That's basically what it's all about.

 

[dantes]

“My woke optimism”.

Jesus Dantes!!! - I don’t know how you interpret that as me being optimistic about this shit fest.

The only optimism I have is, if it doesn’t happen and a more engaging way to make the game more competitive and interesting can be found that doesn’t revolve around who can spend the most.

If that’s “woke”, then I dread to think what the opposite is.

The optimism is that you think there will be a market left for them to price everyone else out of. It's a trait of woke businesses that act shocked when their virtue signalling politics loses them money.

 

[Farkmaster]

The optimism is that you think there will be a market left for them to price everyone else out of. It's a trait of woke businesses that act shocked when their virtue signalling politics loses them money.

Isn't it boring to see everything through such a trite fucking lens all the time? It's exhausting, it's dull. Pipe down.

 

[dantes]

Isn't it boring to see everything through such a trite fucking lens all the time? It's exhausting, it's dull. Pipe down.

It's never boring to stumble upon a simple rule of life that gets you to the right answer on every issue with the minimum effort, leaving you to preserve your mind for genuinely important issues.

But I can pipe down, given the circumstances and you probably being unhappy enough as it is.

 

[Farkmaster]

It's never boring to stumble upon a simple rule of life that gets you to the right answer on every issue with the minimum effort, leaving you to preserve your mind for genuinely important issues.

Yes, that's why all of our great thinkers are best known for their bumper stickers.

 

[Athens]

What exactly do UEFA do for football? They could have spent some of their money on actual things, like helping teams pay for training grounds and helped develop players etc. as opposed to just trademarking names and rights. Now they just own ideas, whereas the clubs have their own stadia etc. if UEFA had been more clever they could have tied teams up to them by lending money to develop stadia while at the same time ensuring that only "UEFA approved" matches can be played there.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

I reckon Klopp will leave sooner than later. And it’ll all go downhill from there.

 

[StevieM]

The optimism is that you think there will be a market left for them to price everyone else out of. It's a trait of woke businesses that act shocked when their virtue signalling politics loses them money.

Oh.... what’s the point.

 

[dantes]

Yes, that's why all of our great thinkers are best known for their bumper stickers.

If they were great thinkers like me, they'd detest the ocd imperfection of the bumper sticker due to their advanced neurological functions, so they're just imposters like our owners.

 

[StevieM]

Who the fuck let Dantes out of General Chat without his meds?

 

[jan]

 

[Whaddapie]

I think all the "this is the death of football" posts are very naïve

It may the the death of the traditional model of football as we have all grown up on it - obviously, if it happens, it is certainly that - but expecting all fans to suddenly stop supporting their teams just because they've been part of this is foolish, IMHO. This move isn't geared to impress us, the "legacy" fans, who want to win the league first and foremost and see Europe as a wonderful distraction beyond that. It's for the ever-expanding global fanbase in markets like Asia and Africa that only know about a dozen clubs worldwide, and DO want to see them play each other, whenever possible.

For any boycott that we make may, they will pay twice the current ticket prices or subscription fees to watch us take on Barca then AC Milan then Real then the scum then Juventus, etc... Cunts though they are, the wankers who have made this decision are not stupid - They've not done this without having the numbers to show them that it will work. They don't care about us, or the history of any of the leagues that their clubs may soon leave behind, but they know this WILL be adopted by the majority of the fanbase out there.

Also, people slagging off the NFL over here, due to lack of relegation / promotion, etc... That's a fair point, but the league is a money-making machine, and there is constant (and year round) excitement over here for 'football'. Again, those pretending that such a model couldn't work in Europe are vastly underestimating the world's unquenchable thirst for top-class football.

We may want to see the league that we grew up, week in, week out, and we may enjoy watching Villa play Fulham, because it will somehow affect Liverpool and our chances at the top four, etc... but we are not who this is designed to impress.

This absolutely CAN work, and thrive, unless the players themselves boycott it. That, for me, is the key here.

 

[darkstarexodus]

ESLexit means ESLexit.