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Don't sing my name!

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rurikbird

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Klopp reiterated again that he doesn't want the fans singing his name "until the game is decided." What does everyone think, is it a reasonable request or a bit strange? Is there a practical connection between fans chanting something and the opposition creating chances against us or is it pure superstition?
 
No, Chris Bascombe has it right I think. We can sing his name at 0-0, or 2-0 down or 1-0 up, or whatever. It isn't saying the game is done, it is saying, we fucking love you, you mad German bastard.

The Kop turns Liverpool managers into cult leaders, so Jurgen Klopp better get used to having his name sung

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Klopp gestured for the Kop to stop singing his name at the weekend CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES
12 SEPTEMBER 2016 • 9:31AM
Jurgen Klopp fell in love with the romantic idea of Liverpool when he decided to become the club’s manager.
It’s a fair assumption when he arrived to find Anfield in a state of disillusioned slumber; the reality was not exactly as he had imagined. No matter, he seems determined to shape it to meet his preconceptions.
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Klopp's glasses fell off as he celebrated Liverpool's second goal on Saturday CREDIT: REUTERS
From day one he’s sought to ensure the stadium performs to its maximum every week rather than occasionally. That Hull City, Burnley or – as we saw on Saturday – Leicester, encounter the same ferocity as Manchester United, Chelsea or a visiting European team.
He wants going to a football match to be as close as it can be to going to a rock concert. Klopp has little regard for spectators, only participants. He’s part-manager, part-choreographer and part-cheerleader. Liverpool should equip their coach with a megaphone on the touchline to enable him to communicate directly with The Kop.
In the technical area, his antennae is directed in multiple directions, ready to issue an instruction to Lucas Leiva in one moment and the bloke sitting in row H who is moaning too much a minute later.
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Klopp is always entertaining to watch on the touchline CREDIT: REX FEATURES
He’s tried to send a message to supporters during a game on several occasions now, his crazed gestures ensuring he's worth watching as much as the players.
The first time was when he addressed the cult of the ‘early leaver’ following a Liverpool defeat to Crystal Palace at the start of his reign, Klopp bemused by the sight of hundreds of supporters who’ve traditionally sacrificed the last ten minutes of games to escape car parks and congestion on the M62 and Mersey tunnels.
Then in the Europa League final in Basel, when Liverpool surrendered their advantage to Seville, Klopp chastised his fans for their dazed silence. We could delve into deeper reasons why that happened. Primarily if you want the fans who inspired the Istanbul comeback in 2005, you’ll need to tell Uefa to pick a stadium that can get them a ticket. Secondly, most people sitting in the Liverpool end were rendered speechless by the fact Alberto Moreno was still on the pitch.

On Saturday, Klopp’s ire was directed at those who sang his name when Liverpool were comfortably beating the Premier League champions.
His explanation, and call for it not to be repeated, demonstrated a misreading of why it happened.
Liverpool led 3-1 with 30 minutes remaining and there was a mood of jubilation. Klopp felt it was a victory chant rather than one of appreciation. He sensed complacency and ran down the touchline to chastise The Kop when Jamie Vardy nearly scored within seconds of his song being aired. But for the fact Phil Babb was paraded before the game as one of several Liverpool legends, it would have been the most peculiar episode of the afternoon.
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Liverpool's new Main Stand had its first outing on Saturday CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES
The timing was unfortunate, leading to what can only be interpreted as a cultural misunderstanding. The Liverpool fans did not chant for Klopp because they considered the game won. They did so because they are falling in love with their manager and the football his team is starting to play. When this happens, this is what Liverpool fans do.
An archive search will tell Klopp that a song in tribute of the manager is part of The Kop repertoire, and can just as easily be sung at 0-0 or 3-1.
No club deifies or defers to its managers as rapidly or regularly as Liverpool’s. Klopp may want it to be about the team and not about him but that’s never going to happen at his current club.
It goes back to Bill Shankly, of course, when the union bill was first signed declaring every future Liverpool manager must embody the aspirations and values of those they represent. Check out those old clips of Liverpool in the 60s and 70s and you’ll hear the name of Shankly and then Bob Paisley sung to the tune of ‘Amazing Grace’.
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Rafa Benitez was adored on the Kop CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES
Most clubs do not make their manager such a focal point. It was always a curiosity when heading to Old Trafford that no matter how many titles or European Cups he won, Sir Alex Ferguson was never summoned to acknowledge weekly songs in his honour.
At Liverpool, a succession of managers have been welcomed with an initial suspicion until the moment of acceptance followed and the hero worship began – in some cases making them more like a cult leader than football coach.
Gerard Houllier had it. So did Rafa Benitez. Brendan Rodgers did, too, during his near miss going for the title. Roy Hodgson didn’t.
It was inevitable Klopp would be granted the same courtesy as soon as the first hints of an impressive team appeared. Before Saturday, the volume of the song in appreciation of him was less audible, but it’s starting to come together on the pitch and – on such occasions – The Kop is always going to want to acknowledge the boss.


There’s no escaping the fact Klopp is a charismatic but also curious guy and – just as much as the new Main Stand – he has re-energised Anfield.
He embodies every quality The Kop adores; the street-fighter, the worker, the wit, the beer drinker who probably knows he is engaging in one cheeky smoke too many; the football obsessive; the straight-talker; the most passionate man in the room who feels the game as well as he studies and understands it.
When Liverpool win as on Saturday, his crowd interventions will be shrugged off as part of his charm. The danger will be if such comments about spectator performance come during less satisfactory periods.
Nevertheless, if part of the deal is Liverpool must have a sound lead before Klopp is comfortable with being the subject of The Kop's chanting, there can be no greater incentive for his players to keep scoring at least four goals a match.
 
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Personally I think he's wrong and I hope the fans chant his name at 0:0 in the next home game just to make a point. I think this whole episode reflects the concern he has over his team's ability to manage the game and preserve a lead – that's the real culprit, not the fans.
 
I imagine it's in an attempt to quell his Own emotions and prevent him from bouncing around like a looney and being 'disrespectful'
 
All this fucking tedious bollocks and feverish reaction to Klopp's antics on Saturday are entirely pointless.

He's reacting in his usual emotional way to his *own* frenzied reaction to the goal scoring in the Arsenal game, especially at 4-1, which he realised in retrospect was premature given what followed.

He's right to try and convey to the fans and especially players that any sort of complacency is dangerous. But being able to rely on your defence to close down a game is entirely his responsibility and that of the players.

The fans are hardly going to quell the joy and emotion of scoring goals,and if that manifests itself in Klopp chants, so what?

And I wouldn't want to see his own natural responses to stimulus being damped down either. I like to see that emotion and celebration, especially when it seems so entirely natural with Klopp. And his regular loss of eye wear.
 
I'm a little surprised and disappointed by Klopp's reaction to this. He's the one who has made a thing out of it, which makes him appear self-indulgent...which is presumably exactly what he was trying to avoid.
 
So do I - on both sides. IMO the roots of it lie in the fact that Klopp's so very insistent on bigging up the team rather than any individual, which is fine in itself but which I think he's overdoing in this case. On the other hand some of the reactions in this thread are at least as overdone. Everybody (including Klopp) should just chill and carry on.
 
The Kop should stop singing his name - and start singing his wife's name along something like 'we love your husband'.

They'd do as he wished and still prove a point.
 
Maybe the fans should just spell it out, like parents sometimes do with certain words in the presence of toddlers, so he doesn't notice.
 
He's wrong,

Basically his bloody team should be able to control a lead no matter what the atmosphere.... not the fans fault if they are weak in the heeeed
 
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