It wouldnt suprise me tbh.. though I do think he will be given another season.. in the same vein as AVB was...
Harry was kicked out for finishing 4th.. (they lost their Champion League place to Chelsea)
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It wouldnt suprise me tbh.. though I do think he will be given another season.. in the same vein as AVB was...
Harry was kicked out for finishing 4th.. (they lost their Champion League place to Chelsea)
If De Boer or Klopp are willing to come then I've just about had enough of Rodgers tbh.
We've made no progress this season and look like a team without a plan.
Just a few months ago we were talking about top 4 and an FA cup final.
We've fucked that up with some or several if we're honest disgraceful performances.
Once again we've got a manager trying to be to clever for his own good.
He's spent 220 mill on 20 players or something.
And we're in this position. Not good enough.
We've made no progress this season and look like a team without a plan.
Just a few months ago we were talking about top 4 and an FA cup final.
We've fucked that up with some or several if we're honest disgraceful performances.
Once again we've got a manager trying to be to clever for his own good.
He's spent 220 mill on 20 players or something.
And we're in this position. Not good enough.
I think that if we took the current squad and added two marquee players to it, a goal scorer that is a grafter, and a goal scoring wing forward - then I don't think we'd need Klopp. I think we'd be 2nd or thereabouts. We're 5th and 9pts off 2nd. We're 50goals off the amount of goals we had last year. If you added another 30-40 goals to our games this year, we'd EASILY be 9pts better off.
So next season, if we signed those 2 players, I think we'd be laughing, under Rodgers.
So next season, if we signed those 2 players, I think we'd be laughing, under Rodgers.
We did it with Rafa... this is arguably in some context no different
Bad signings, money wasted.. bad tactics, bad excuses.. Appears to have lost the dressing room..
The question is do you trust Rodgers to make those signings.. ???
His record with signing stirkers so far
Aspas
Borini
Ballotelli
Lambert
Sturridge was not his signing.. though it is argued Balotelli wasn't his either...
There is no denying having a goalscorer would have made a huge differance on this season..
The crux is he and the club got the summer signings wrong..
I've not run out of patience with Rodgers yet as per Mors above.
However, Klopp is someone I have a particular soft spot for due to his achievements with Dortmund and character.
So I'm torn. If Rodgers is to be sacked, I'd be gutted if it was anyone but Klopp. De Boer, for instance, has a dreadful record in Europe.
However, Klopp is someone I have a particular soft spot for due to his achievements with Dortmund and character.
So I'm torn. If Rodgers is to be sacked, I'd be gutted if it was anyone but Klopp. De Boer, for instance, has a dreadful record in Europe.
Sacking Rafa and replacing him with Hodgson was undoubtedly one of the worst decisions we've made in recent times.
Yes.. I was gutted when it was announced... He was one of those manager that you just knew was destined to fail..
We have decent owners this time.. so you would hope this time round they would get it right if the worst was to happen...
Rafa had to go. The fact that we went disastrously off the rails when we chose his successor shouldn't obscure that.
No thanks. Good manager in the right situation, but LFC ain't it. He'd be another Souness, ripping everything up by the roots instead of zeroing in on what really needed changing.
FSG's approach needs to be considered in all this. If I understand it correctly they want us to be the best team in England and challenge for European Cups, but do so by principally signing young players and developing them rather than signing the best players.
I've lost most of the faith I had in Rodgers; his man-management, tactics and ability to set up a team with any real shape have all been found wanting for large parts of the season. But I don't know whether we have a structure that is going to allow anyone - Klopp included - to succeed. We're asking a manager to take on clubs who can outspend us on fees and wages and finish above them. It's a massive ask. We should undoubtedly be doing better than we have this season, but Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Arsenal are now, by virtue of FFP, going to always be able to spend more than us. And from the sounds of it they are going to have players with more experience and more likely to be in their prime than we will have. I don't really see how FSG can expect our recruitment policy to pay dividends in the long term.
I've lost most of the faith I had in Rodgers; his man-management, tactics and ability to set up a team with any real shape have all been found wanting for large parts of the season. But I don't know whether we have a structure that is going to allow anyone - Klopp included - to succeed. We're asking a manager to take on clubs who can outspend us on fees and wages and finish above them. It's a massive ask. We should undoubtedly be doing better than we have this season, but Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Arsenal are now, by virtue of FFP, going to always be able to spend more than us. And from the sounds of it they are going to have players with more experience and more likely to be in their prime than we will have. I don't really see how FSG can expect our recruitment policy to pay dividends in the long term.
Sturridge was his signing. He said he wanted him but opted for a loan first and balked at Chelsea asking for £18m, we waited and got him for £12m. It's a bit selective to your reasoning really. You spent the Sturridge thread telling us that he was officially a poor Rodgers signing because he's always injured! Now he's not a Rodgers signing because a previous manager wanted him?
I didn't say in the sturridge thread he was Rodgers signing.. I was always under the impression it was not his signing as the club sourced him before hand (torres deal).. There was rumours about too that he didn't want him
He has been one of the better signings but sadly poor for us overall (more so this season) due to being injured...
Borini was probably a definative Rodgers signing as he previously worked with him...
That I guess is all trivial anyway..
The crux like I said.. the club got the summer signings wrong..
It doesn't mean Sturridge wasn't his signing though, does it? It's a bit selective, like I said.
I guess the point I was trying to make, is the sourcing of forwards has been pretty poor since Rodgers came to the fore..
The point is that nothing has to happen, you need to know the consequences before you make decisions.
The consequence of firing Rafa was that we got Hodgson, if we'd known that, we shouldn't have done it.
No more so than previous managers. I mean, who did Rafa buy aside from Torres? Keane, Morientes, N'Gog, Babel? Kuyt ended up being a midfielder.
Garcia in his first season played up front quite a bit.. (case of having too due to injuries) and was a wonderful player to watch although inconsistant.. He was the magical man...
At least Keane actually scored goals.. (I always though he was treated very unfairly by Rafa.. I never got why we sold him without replacing him)
Ngog despite being limited... occasionaly chipped in with goals...
Babel in his first season offered a lot for us coming on from the bench..
Together they have offered much more than the current bunch of misfits...
Reporters at the KC Stadium asked Rodgers whether he felt there was a danger of the Reds' campaign 'fizzling out' as 2014-15 reaches its conclusion.
"It's something I spoke about afterwards [to the players]," replied the manager. "Normally after a game, whether we win or lose, I never like to say too much to players because there's always emotion, especially when you lose a game.
"I remember being here last year - we lost 3-1, we were disappointing and I didn't say much. In the next game, we were fantastic at home against Norwich. I spoke about that after this game - we have an obligation to fight right until the very end.
"Of course, we wanted to be in that top four, but it was always going to be very, very difficult for us with how the season mapped itself out with the squad, injuries and whatnot. We can't take away we're fighting for a great club and we're looking now to get the pace and momentum we can take through into next season.
"Tonight, you could see the players were fighting and working, there were a lot of young players still learning the game, but we never really looked like scoring a goal, to be honest."
This is the ABC's of bullshit excuses.
1 - the players were fighting and working - No they weren't ,unless he means the Hull players
2 - we're looking now to get the pace and momentum we can take through into next season - How is finishing 5th at best going to take any momentum into next season!
3 - there were a lot of young players still learning the game - Then pick experienced ones then.and by the way most of the experienced players were still shit.
4 - I remember being here last year - we lost 3-1, we were disappointing and I didn't say much. In the next game, we were fantastic at home against Norwich - Maybe I'm reading too much into it but it sounds like he's trying to take credit for the good performance against by not saying much. If that's the case why do we even need a manager at all. The fact's are the Norwich game was all about Suarez (who he doesn't mention) rather than the managerial genius of saying fuck all.
5 - Of course, we wanted to be in that top four, but it was always going to be very, very difficult for us with how the season mapped itself out with the squad, injuries and whatnot - I've no idea what he means by this. He seemed quite happy with the squad at the start of the season. Our injuries have been nowhere near as bad as United's or even Arsenals at times. Fair enough though the whatnot has been a negative (what the fucks a Whatnot!)
Maybe i'm being harsh by dissecting his post match interviews but he brings it on himself by repeatedly talking absolute nonsense whilst trying to present himself as the wise old sage.
"It's something I spoke about afterwards [to the players]," replied the manager. "Normally after a game, whether we win or lose, I never like to say too much to players because there's always emotion, especially when you lose a game.
"I remember being here last year - we lost 3-1, we were disappointing and I didn't say much. In the next game, we were fantastic at home against Norwich. I spoke about that after this game - we have an obligation to fight right until the very end.
"Of course, we wanted to be in that top four, but it was always going to be very, very difficult for us with how the season mapped itself out with the squad, injuries and whatnot. We can't take away we're fighting for a great club and we're looking now to get the pace and momentum we can take through into next season.
"Tonight, you could see the players were fighting and working, there were a lot of young players still learning the game, but we never really looked like scoring a goal, to be honest."
This is the ABC's of bullshit excuses.
1 - the players were fighting and working - No they weren't ,unless he means the Hull players
2 - we're looking now to get the pace and momentum we can take through into next season - How is finishing 5th at best going to take any momentum into next season!
3 - there were a lot of young players still learning the game - Then pick experienced ones then.and by the way most of the experienced players were still shit.
4 - I remember being here last year - we lost 3-1, we were disappointing and I didn't say much. In the next game, we were fantastic at home against Norwich - Maybe I'm reading too much into it but it sounds like he's trying to take credit for the good performance against by not saying much. If that's the case why do we even need a manager at all. The fact's are the Norwich game was all about Suarez (who he doesn't mention) rather than the managerial genius of saying fuck all.
5 - Of course, we wanted to be in that top four, but it was always going to be very, very difficult for us with how the season mapped itself out with the squad, injuries and whatnot - I've no idea what he means by this. He seemed quite happy with the squad at the start of the season. Our injuries have been nowhere near as bad as United's or even Arsenals at times. Fair enough though the whatnot has been a negative (what the fucks a Whatnot!)
Maybe i'm being harsh by dissecting his post match interviews but he brings it on himself by repeatedly talking absolute nonsense whilst trying to present himself as the wise old sage.
You should never underestimate the effect of a negative whatnot!
People are going to pick holes in it, whatever he says. He said we didn't look like scoring "to be honest", it's only clearly what everyone else has said.
Whatever he says now, we've fucked up, so it's never going to be good enough or dress it up in any shape or form. Dissecting every last shred of it is pointless. We haven't got the firepower we need and we're lacking a backbone to the team, we need to sort it out over the Summer and it's not going to suddenly address itself by changing tack in the remaining games, because what players we have got in the squad are either only the basis going forward, or the dregs of departures.
He plays young players, he's wrong. He plays experienced players, they're not good enough. The season is dead, we're just crying over spilled milk now.
Whatever he says now, we've fucked up, so it's never going to be good enough or dress it up in any shape or form. Dissecting every last shred of it is pointless. We haven't got the firepower we need and we're lacking a backbone to the team, we need to sort it out over the Summer and it's not going to suddenly address itself by changing tack in the remaining games, because what players we have got in the squad are either only the basis going forward, or the dregs of departures.
He plays young players, he's wrong. He plays experienced players, they're not good enough. The season is dead, we're just crying over spilled milk now.
German football expert Raf Honigstein claims Jurgen Klopp would find it very difficult to turn Liverpool down.
The Borussia Dortmund manager has announced he will leave the Bundesliga side at the end of the season, and has been linked with a switch to Anfield.
And, while unsure whether Brendan Rodgers will be relieved of his duties in the summer, Honigstein believes the 47-year-old would be keen on taking over the Reds.
"Speaking to people close to him in November, where it was already on the cards that he might move to England, it was understood he wanted to move to an established Champions League club," he continued "He’s also realistic enough to know that there aren’t that many likely offers from top four clubs coming in.
“At the same time, in so far as a emotional connection, and an ideal fit, Borussia Dortmund to Liverpool is the closest resemblance you can find. The fans are a huge part of the club, they also sing you’ll never walk alone. There’s a special kind of atmosphere in the city. It would be very hard for Jurgen Klopp to turn Liverpool down."
The Borussia Dortmund manager has announced he will leave the Bundesliga side at the end of the season, and has been linked with a switch to Anfield.
And, while unsure whether Brendan Rodgers will be relieved of his duties in the summer, Honigstein believes the 47-year-old would be keen on taking over the Reds.
"Speaking to people close to him in November, where it was already on the cards that he might move to England, it was understood he wanted to move to an established Champions League club," he continued "He’s also realistic enough to know that there aren’t that many likely offers from top four clubs coming in.
“At the same time, in so far as a emotional connection, and an ideal fit, Borussia Dortmund to Liverpool is the closest resemblance you can find. The fans are a huge part of the club, they also sing you’ll never walk alone. There’s a special kind of atmosphere in the city. It would be very hard for Jurgen Klopp to turn Liverpool down."
So he's off to City then.
I think Klopp and City would be a Bad fit..
City are quite a souless club...
Klopp has soul...
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