Danny Ings - Confirmed
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will score more goals next season for us than Balotelli, Borini, Studge & Lambert combined did this past season.
And still be a flop.
If he does the above, and Origi/Studge/____ contribute their fair share, he won't.
And you'll still be a massive grade A twat, hey ho.
Fucking hilarious as usual. Bellend.
Yeah, it's a risk worth taking, anyway. If it doesn't work out, we won't take a massive hit on the transfer fee since it's rather nominal.
At least he'll try (unlike Balotelli), isn't slow as fuck (sorry, Rickie) and can actually score goals.
This is where the academy should come into play. Rather than throw away considerable money on the likes of Borini, Aspas etc, use some of the kids.
The money you'd save could be used towards wages for better players in the number one and two slots. Surely the talent has to be there, even just in the local area. Find it and develop it. I know it's a romantic idea and while passion can't replace outstanding natural talent, I'd rather see a local kid give his all and be brought into the first team set up than some no hoper who thinks he's won the lottery just by the simple fact he's been bought by Liverpool.
I just dont understand the thought process. And I dont mean to be a dick like but are people thinking that
Mignolet
Moreno
Skrtel
Sakho
Clyne
Ibe
Henderson
Milner
Coutinho
Benteke
Ings
Or something along these lines is going to get us anywhere other than 6th again?
Forget Sturridge for now because hes out injured. Forget Sterling because hes going.
We need to sign Griezmann, Reus, Pedro, Pjanic, Vidal type signings.
And before any smart arse says 'why would they come here' champions league blah blah bollocks United signed Di Ma-fucking-ria, Herrara, Blind, Rojo, Shaw, Falcao all with no champions league.
You identify your targets and you go and fucking sign them. Sell them yer project or whatever. And you chuck a fuckload of cash at them because thats all they fucking care about.
If we fish the same pools we do every fucking season we will end up where we do every fucking season.
Mignolet
Moreno
Skrtel
Sakho
Clyne
Ibe
Henderson
Milner
Coutinho
Benteke
Ings
Or something along these lines is going to get us anywhere other than 6th again?
Forget Sturridge for now because hes out injured. Forget Sterling because hes going.
We need to sign Griezmann, Reus, Pedro, Pjanic, Vidal type signings.
And before any smart arse says 'why would they come here' champions league blah blah bollocks United signed Di Ma-fucking-ria, Herrara, Blind, Rojo, Shaw, Falcao all with no champions league.
You identify your targets and you go and fucking sign them. Sell them yer project or whatever. And you chuck a fuckload of cash at them because thats all they fucking care about.
If we fish the same pools we do every fucking season we will end up where we do every fucking season.
Do we have any strikers coming through?
Hell yes.
Just because you're 6th or whatever, doesn't mean you have to have the fucking mentality and vision to match.
We signed Suarez from somewhere didn't we? There are absolute quality players out there all the time, and we always have a fortune to spend.
Ings is a very promising young striker whom I am sure will do very well at a club where he will be given plenty of game time to develop his game, understand the strength of the attackers around him and do decently well. If he is slightly out of form, he will get game time to play himself into form. Problem is that at Liverpool, he will most likely come on as a sub and not get any of that. He will be expected to deliver with minimal minutes. His starts will be scattered, most likely cup games. No consistent or consecutive game time to get himself acclimated. Ideally the third striker should be some one with either searing pace, or trickery (like Pongolle), or a very good finisher who can make an impact at the end. I dont see Ings having pace or trickery but I hope he is a good finisher as otherwise I can see the Lambert story repeating itself. I am fairly confident if Lambert moves to another premier league club, he will look twice the striker he was at Liverpool.
He does all of the things you mention however the one concern I have about him is that much like Lallana, who is also talented and hardworking, he is a bit one paced. He doesnt seem to have that burst of acceleration over 5 - 10 yards to open up space for himself, playing for a club that is expected to play on the front foot like us means playing against packed defences, he wont get the space hes been allowed at Burley. I like him and for £3m or so its a bit of a no brainer but you only have to look at the likes of Lambert, Borini and Lallana to see how attacking players without acceleration struggle in our system
Since when have we become a team reliant on 'pace' ? Certainly not last season. People need to stop looking back to the one-off season of 2013/14.
And if we are playing against packed defences pace isn't going to help you anywhere near as much as trickery, creativity, goal-poaching instinct and heading ability. That top strikers need to be out an out speedsters is really a bit of a myth. Every top league has very good strikers who don't rely on speed but nouse and the talents above ... and the PL more than their fair share of them (Costa, RvP, Rooney, Falcao, Kane, Benteke, Dezko, Jovatic, Giroud, Drogba in his prime, etc. etc.). It's teams that play most of the game on the back-foot that need speedy frontmen far more than we do. Naturally if they have pace as well then that's all the better.
Pretty much this. I think Ings is reasonably talented, and will probably do better than the likes of Borini for a mid table club. But given that he'd be expected to be an impact player here, it'll be far more challenging for him.
While its true that not every striker needs to be quick its largely dependent on the system that they play in, Id say the fact that our frontline was absolute gash last year after signing a bunch of plodders is a pretty strong indication that pace is required in our system. Unless Rodgers is going to rip it up and start again Id be wary of adding another striker who will struggle to create space for himself. Im not sure Id Falcao, Jovatic, Dezcko Giroud as examples considering they have all be pretty disappointing, while the likes of Drogba Rooney VanPersie and Benteke are or were reasonably quick over the first 10 yards at their peak, Im not saying Walcott type pace but a burst of acceleration to create an opening.
Happy to be proved wrong on Ings, and hes worth the gamble for the fee involved but I think he might struggle with the pace of the game as we play it when at our best
Pretty much, and for Bob's information, where the fuck have I said he'll be the bollox? For £4m he's a young striker who's worth a punt on, he's scored goals in a poor team and looked sharp around the penalty area, but that's it. He's a young player that fortunitously doesn't have a massive transfer fee strangling him. The romanticism of bringing through a youngster aside, this is something Liverpool have always done, invested in up and coming players who are available at the right price. For once we're not getting stung on a fee, so it's relatively risk free in terms of outlay. He's worth having a look at and seeing whether he can step up.
Agree wholeheartedly with the Benteke point, but surely that's a completely separate issue, we need quality there regardless of who else we buy, so that shouldn't really reflect on any purchase of this nature. But yes, he does need to plug away, in the safe knowledge that there's someone in the first team doing the business, and we don't end up relying on him turning into a 20 goal a season player overnight, because we've fucked up elsewhere in the transfer market.
Benteke's just not right for us.
I'd trust ings to come on and do something more than I'd trust Lambert and Borini
Surely that's the logic here
Least he's a striker who works hard and makes intelligent runs.
If he's bought to be a starter I'll obviously be fucked off, but I doubt he is.
Long as we buy someone else who has the potential to be a top 20 in the world player (lacazette, dybala, Felipe Anderson, etc) I'll be happy to have ings as well.
Surely that's the logic here
Least he's a striker who works hard and makes intelligent runs.
If he's bought to be a starter I'll obviously be fucked off, but I doubt he is.
Long as we buy someone else who has the potential to be a top 20 in the world player (lacazette, dybala, Felipe Anderson, etc) I'll be happy to have ings as well.
Yep. Until we start acting like Liverpool again we'll continue to be also-rans. Fucking sick of it. Other clubs should be looking up to us, not the other way round. Load of fucking wank.
Di Maria and Falcao have been abject, expensive failures and just to piss on the argument completely, Danny fucking Wellbeck for Arsenal, another player everyone considers wank and an also-ran type player, came in and did a better job for them than most of United's big signings.
We all want a big marquee signing, but getting a pathetic strop on about every signing that isn't, just smacks of a crappy, Football Manager-esque unrealistic thinking.
Yes we need to buy big, but even the more successful managers in Liverpool's glittering past, bought players who were gambles, who were young and who were deals that were worth getting in on, in the hope that we may have just pulled off a buy that will pay off in the long run.
I don't want Benteke at all, but the hysterics over us potentially signing an U21 International for a fee that's probably at most £5m (Less than Aspas, Alberto and Illori!), is just ridiculous.
If you think we can go Falcao esque and throw a quarter of a million a week at every mercenary looking for a pay day on past glories, then you're as delusional as everyone you keep sneering at. We need a big signing this Summer, we're all agreed on that, but you're living in cloud fucking cuckoo land if you think every signing we pull off has to be a £30m big name.
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