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Danny Ings - Confirmed

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The biggest doubt in all this is signing a world class striker. I've got zero confidence in us pulling that off.
 
The biggest doubt in all this is signing a world class striker. I've got zero confidence in us pulling that off.
it does worry me tbh.. given our history in the transfer market

But like Ross says if we can ship out the 3 strikers that are deadwood.. it frees up wages as well as bringing revenue, so one would think we would have the money to get that top class player in..
 
I dont get the negative attitude towards him.

22, scored 10 goals for a shite team and will cost us roughly 3-5 mill depending on the Tribunal fee.
Thats a very good transfer and very low risk.

He works very hard, pressing, decent ability on the ball, good movement and can finish. In other words he's a better fit than 3 of the strikers we have today.
Will only improve and if it doesnt work out we can get twice what we paid if not more.

Think he'll prove to be a good signing.
Because every year we are out of the champions league makes us a less attractive club and we lose out on how many millions every season. Because knowing us he'll flop and we'll sell him for £5m max making the little profit we make from him insignificant compared to the money we lose from not being in the top 4.

We keep making these signings every season and and it always ends up the same. We need true quality, not quantity.
 
Because every year we are out of the champions league makes us a less attractive club and we lose out on how many millions every season. Because knowing us he'll flop and we'll sell him for £5m max making the little profit we make from him insignificant compared to the money we lose from not being in the top 4.

We keep making these signings every season and and it always ends up the same. We need true quality, not quantity.

Good post.. but I do think Ings is an improvment over Lambert or Borini..

Providing we sign a top class talent up Top.. we should be OK..

We also need a Top class midfielder, RB and if there is any spare change.. a CB
 
Considering we spent £6.8m and £7.6m on Luis Alberto and Iago Aspas respectively while Ings' current wage is around £15k (will get a pay rise for sure, but should be sensible figure), I'm not complaining.
 
My "meh" stance on Ings is not necessarily all due to the man himself (good job in a poor team) - it is because I always worry about bringing a player in to fulfil a different role than they have proven themselves to be good at. He is a 100% certainty to play every game when he is fit at Burnley; can he deliver playing one game, sitting out 3, playing 1 game, coming on for 15mins as sub, etc, etc? Also, he wont get the space he got at Burnley, so the normal challenge of making the step up applies - is he intelligent enough to find the space he was given for free at Burnley, but will be starved at when playing for us?

Lastly, I dont for a second believe that Ings will be the bit part striker signing, and there will be another that people are implying - there's a strong possibility he could be the only one i) one out of Lambert, Borini or Balo probably stays whether we like it or not, and even if they dont we predominantly play with one striker so the owners may (justifiably) say Sturridge, Origi and Ings is plenty. And for those saying he is cheap and frees up budget space - dont the owners use the american sports model of calculating expenditure on the basis of the full terms of his contract? As such hes not that cheap - tribunal payment, signing bonus, 4-5yr contract at min of 50k per week, etc, etc - suddenly looks suspiciously like "that's 15-20m outlay on a new striker Brendan (plus we've just spunked 7m in lost transfer fee and wages getting rid of Mario) that's your lot. Have a nice day"
 
I don't even think we need a world class striker.

We need one that's going to be available all season long and who'll score about 15 in the league. Our own Giroud, I suppose.
 
He's MUCH better than Borini and he'll prove it to you next season.


You've obviously seen more of him than I have but what I have seen I haven't been impressed. In any case, he may well be better than Borini, but is he good enough to be a starter for our team? No. So that leaves him toiling about here and there for 15 minutes at the end of each game and the odd league cup fixture. It sounds good in theory, a player that will come off the bench and not play much but weigh in with vital goals, but how often does it happen? Will he be able to get a decent run of momentum together with bit-part cameos? How often are signings like that a success? Very rarely, and we've been making too many of them for too long.

We need to concentrate on the first team before we start thinking about squad fillers. I don't particularly like the idea of squad fillers anyway, ideally each player should be good enough to challenge for a place on the pitch. Too often we sign players that are only good enough for our bench and then wonder why we lack quality.

Buy players that will improve the first team and worry about fitting them in later. Once we have the quality we can think about bulking out the squad or whatever.

Regardless, I don't think the quality is out there anyway. I'm not totally against signing him, I'm just meh about the whole thing.
 
The one thing worth noting about the fee we pay at tribunal - this is what we're risking being on the other side of with Sterling
 
Everyone thought he looked talented from what I remember but no one had hardly seen him play. This is different. We all know what we're gonna get from Ings, the same way we all knew what we were getting from lambert. Ings is no hidden secret.
I guess that depends on what you expect. I expect 20 goals.
 
The dream team - Aspas, Lambert & Ings up front.

Dempsey & Siggurdson in behind.

Edit: Rodgers Dream XI

-----------------Aspas---------Lambert-----------
----------Sigurdsson--------------Dempsey------
Konyplanka-------Welsh Xavi-------------Salah
-------Lovren-----Papadopolous----Llori--------
----------------------Mignolet------------------------
 
Signings like these are not going to help us challenge for top 4. Just keep us right where we are. Average signing. Replacing like for like.

What a daft comment. Chelsea had drogba and remi for a lot of the season with Costa injured.

It's not all about Ronaldo and messi fantasy footy.
 
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