I think he could be either good or not very good. Or possibly not half bad.
Or he might not sign at all.
I think he could be either good or not very good. Or possibly not half bad.
Or he might not sign at all.
He will go to UTD... and we will all moan..
That's a bit unfair. Ings is still very young - 92 born, same age as Coutinho. Talent needn't show itself at age 16. Some people develop a bit later. I think you can hardly hold against a 22 year old coming through the academy of a Championship side the fact that he hasn't been poached by a Prem club yet. He's had 2 years of first team football with his side, and performed admirably. He is now rightly getting the move to a bigger club. Whether he's good enough for us, we'll find out, but I think he deserves a fair assessment of where he stands today. He isn't some midtable journeyman like Dempsey or a big fish in a small pond like Charlie Adam. He's actually a reasonably talented youngster.Maybe, in a day and age when the top clubs hoover up all the potential talent from an early age, there's a reason he's been stuck in the lower divisions? It used to happen thirty years ago, but there aren't many players now who spend a lot of their career in the lower divisions and seamlessly go on to be top players for a club with top level ambitions.
If he signs, I'll give him all the time I afford to other signings and really get behind him and hope he does well. But I'll be surprised if we're not bemoaning our lack of striking options again next season.
That's a bit unfair. Ings is still very young - 92 born, same age as Coutinho. Talent needn't show itself at age 16. Some people develop a bit later. I think you can hardly hold against a 22 year old coming through the academy of a Championship side the fact that he hasn't been poached by a Prem club yet. He's had 2 years of first team football with his side, and performed admirably. He is now rightly getting the move to a bigger club. Whether he's good enough for us, we'll find out, but I think he deserves a fair assessment of where he stands today. He isn't some midtable journeyman like Dempsey or a big fish in a small pond like Charlie Adam. He's actually a reasonably talented youngster.
That's a bit unfair. Ings is still very young - 92 born, same age as Coutinho. Talent needn't show itself at age 16. Some people develop a bit later. I think you can hardly hold against a 22 year old coming through the academy of a Championship side the fact that he hasn't been poached by a Prem club yet.
Good point, but I don't think it's a coincidence that none of these are English. English clubs, it seems, more than elsewhere in Europe battle desperately to get all the talented kids at an early age. That's why we rarely see young stars coming through at clubs other than the top clubs. Joe Hart was probably the last player to do so.
I'm looking at Danny Ings' record here, too, and it's not very good. I thought he had banged them in for a couple of years in the championship. Basically, he has had one good season there and a half decent season in the prem. So a lot like Andy Carroll.
Yeah... but it's still signing someone who doesn't improve our first team.
That's a bit of a stretch isn't it? Last year all our strikers were fucking shit. He's a bit better than that.
Not that I think that our bar should be set at 'not fucking shit' - but that would have got you 38 starts this season up front for us.
Good point, but I don't think it's a coincidence that none of these are English. English clubs, it seems, more than elsewhere in Europe battle desperately to get all the talented kids at an early age. That's why we rarely see young stars coming through at clubs other than the top clubs. Joe Hart was probably the last player to do so.
I'm looking at Danny Ings' record here, too, and it's not very good. I thought he had banged them in for a couple of years in the championship. Basically, he has had one good season there and a half decent season in the prem. So a lot like Andy Carroll.
Haha I vaguely remember that. Was it Ren and Stimpy?
I found out getting N'Gog on my shirt was the same price as Mascherano. They don't charge per letter unfortunately.It will be a cheap name to have on a shirt. One letter more than Ibe or Can. Several fewer than Coutinho, Sturridge or Henderson. I hope this helps.
I found out getting N'Gog on my shirt was the same price as Mascherano. They don't charge per letter unfortunately.
I found out getting N'Gog on my shirt was the same price as Mascherano. They don't charge per letter unfortunately.
I first noticed Ings predatory instinct about 4 years ago when he was at Bournemouth and was very impressed. I followed his career from there and, despite what the "hard" statistics say, he has been prolific in my eyes throughout.
Obviously. given his stats, I need to qualify that assertion...................He became prolific for Bournemouth as soon as he became a regular starter. He then went to Burnley and was injured for about 8 or 9 months almost immediately. It's doubtful he would have got straight into the team anyway as Charlie Austin was knocking in goals for fun for them and ably assisted by Vokes.
Eddie Howe had been Bournemouth's manager when Ings broke into the team and when he left to take over at Burnley he took Ings with him (a few months later). I am quite sure that Howe did not plan on pairing Austin and Ings but bought Ings because he knew that bigger clubs would move in for Austin.
Most of Ings appearance/goals during the 2012/13 season were as sub and, as I alluded to previously, he was feeling his way after a long injury.
When Austin signed for QPR for £8m the Burnley fans were devastated but Danny Ings filled the void. As soon as Ings became a regular feature in the Burnley line up he started scoring.
I remain quite convinced that he will score lots of goals for us if he signs but even if he does not prove as successful as I anticipate I am 100% convinced that he will prove better back-up than Balotelli/Lambert/Borini.
Pesam has been talking highly of Ings for years on here, and its great that we could be on the verge of signing him. Proof that the club follows what our own lower league scout says.
the way to improve squad is by signing players that will improve our first team then getting some competition going, whats the point of buying players to improve our squad depth when they're average when they do play? They're just making up the fucking numbers
We're losing Gerrard & Glenjo; almost certainly losing (IMO) Sterling, Jones, Lucas, Enrique, Balotelli and Borini, possibly losing Lambert and Toure and god knows how long Flanagan and Sturridge will be out for. If we can get a few "bargains" like Ings, Milner, Boruc etc it means we can spend the vast bulk of the budget (maybe £100m.....based on £50m for Sterling, £25m for rest and £25m from FSG) on getting 3 or 4 top quality signings. If we need to bring in 8 players to replace the 10 (or so) that are leaving then ideally we spend £85m buying 3 really decent players (e.g. Isco, Pranjic, Carvalho) and £15m on the other 5.....e.g Ings, Milner, Boruc etc.