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Danny Ings - Confirmed

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Di Maria and Falcao have been abject, expensive failures and just to piss on the argument completely, Danny fucking Wellbeck for Arsenal, another player everyone considers wank and an also-ran type player, came in and did a better job for them than most of United's big signings.

We all want a big marquee signing, but getting a pathetic strop on about every signing that isn't, just smacks of a crappy, Football Manager-esque unrealistic thought process.

Yes we need to buy big, but even the more successful managers in Liverpool's glittering past, bought players who were gambles, who were young and who were deals that were worth getting in on, in the hope that we may have just pulled off a buy that will pay off in the long run.

I don't want Benteke at all, but the hysterics over us potentially signing an U21 International for a fee that's probably at most £5m (Less than Aspas, Alberto and Illori!), is just ridiculous.

If you think we can go Falcao esque and throw a quarter of a million a week at every a mercenary looking for a pay day on past glories, then you're as delusional as everyone you keep sneering at. We need a big signing this Summer, we're all agreed on that, but you're living in cloud fucking cuckoo land if you think every signing we pull off has to be a £30m big name.

I don't think any of the things you suggest. Totally missed the point. I have not said Ings would be a bad buy. I actually think he is a good option. But don't let that deflect you from accusing me of whatever it is you are accusing me of. I think it's safe to say that we have very different visions of what we both expect of the team we love.
Act like a second-rate club and you become one.
And try and keep the name-calling to a minimum. It doesn't become you.
 
@Herr Onceared is hitting the nail right on the head...

There are players out there.. why do we continue with the same policy year upon year ?

There is couple of youth players we should be trying to push through, rather than sigining Ings...

Sinclair & Ryan Kent to name a few..

Like Oncy says.. the money saved on Ings wages and compenstation fee can be but put towards getting that Stellar signing..

We should be all over the striker from Lyon.. instead we are opting for Benteke & Ings.. what in gods name has this club become ???
 
Maybe in isolation Ings isn't a bad signing considering he's gonna cost 4 mill, but in reality we're just making the same mistakes again and again,
whatever the amount we have allocated for buying strikers this windows, we should take the entire amount and just pay what is requested for a real quality striker.
Doing else, like signing Ings, means we would just have less money for players who could improve us.
I mean, we have fucking Sinclair and Yesil and Ojo and even Lambert that could do exactly what Ings will do, and they're already here, just spunk the money we do have on some quality fucking striker.
 
Maybe in isolation Ings isn't a bad signing considering he's gonna cost 4 mill, but in reality we're just making the same mistakes again and again,
whatever the amount we have allocated for buying strikers this windows, we should take the entire amount and just pay what is requested for a real quality striker.
Doing else, like signing Ings, means we would just have less money for players who could improve us.
I mean, we have fucking Sinclair and Yesil and Ojo and even Lambert that could do exactly what Ings will do, and they're already here, just spunk the money we do have on some quality fucking striker.
Yep!!

Exactly this...
 
No he really isnt. You've banned and moaned about other posters for less, but because he's barking up the same tree as you, he's ok.
 
No he really isnt. You've banned and moaned about other posters for less, but because he's barking up the same tree as you, he's ok.

I didn't say he was OK.. he is clearly a cunt

I said he is great for the entertainment factor...
 
Individual Players don't make a difference..

ie.. We dont need Suarez.. is one of those sayings too..
 
Fucking wept... Bunch of fucking women on here! No I am not Modo and I'm only a cunt cause I openly disagree with and don't brown nose fucking tools like Mark1975! Ninja careful now, you might have just alerted one of those who part take in the sniffing - Leo!
For what it's worth Mark1975, I actually think Ings is a decent buy if it is for as little as £4m, I was being a tad sarcastic in my comment because most think he's a flop and he's not even signed yet. You tosser.
 
During our greatest period of success, weren't we buying from lower divisions, and nearby leagues?

Surely buying they type of players that ings is, is EXACTLY what being Liverpool is.

We went out and got the players we thought would suit us, wherever they were from. Some certainly came from lower ranked clubs (e.g.Keegan from Scunthorpe), but not all of them did (e.g.Keegan's successor the King from Celtic). The main thing was making the right choices to begin with, and that meant fitting good people into a sensible decision-making process. We've strayed far, far away from those crucial elements for too long.
 
I think maybe the strategy for influencing FSG internally has been wrong. It's been largely negative - 'you don't understand, your policy doesn't work here...' They're a stubborn bunch. It's probably better to try a more positive-sounding argument to shove them in another direction.

What FSG have to wake up to is that, in some ways, they've succeeded. If you look at our reserve side, we've got a hell of a lot of young players of real promise - Kent, Yesil, Wilson, Ojo, Sinclair, Ibe, Rossiter, Williams, Brannagan, Canos, etc etc. So they can relax a bit. That's a really encouraging pool of youthful talent, just like they wanted. So now go out and get a couple of world class, experienced players for here and now. That won't only push the club on, it will also help the kids to train alongside players of that class and competitiveness and professionalism.
 
I think several on here are missing the point tbh.

We're letting Lambert, Borini and Balotelli go. That leaves us with Origi and Studge.

Its all well and good talking about the players we should be after but the reality is that we're not in a position to go for all those players. Lacazette? That wont happen. Kent and Ojo arent strikers. Sinclairs next step in his development is going out on loan for a year playing every match.
There isnt a guarantee either that we can get Icardi, Aubamenyang etc.
We should obviously be targeting those players aswell but a 4 mill deal for Ings wont hamper our chances.

Signing Ings is a potentially very good deal. Firstly he'll give us more than Balotelli, Borini and Lambert.
He scored 11 goals for a team that got relegated in his first season in the PL.
Those of us who watched his game at Old Trafford could see in his performance a lot of the elements that have been missing for us this season.
Secondly, if it doesnt work out and he'll be off somewhere else we'll get twice or more the money back that we paid.
Thats the premium for a young English striker.
He'll probably get called up to the England squad if he performs well for us.

Its not about buying the most expensive options its about getting the right players in.
He fits the bill and is young with potential. The whole Danny Fuckings name is beyond a joke to be honest.
What could happen is that he continues his development and actually becomes a very good player for us.

Its a risk worth taking and I'd rather have him as our back up striker than Sinclair, who clearly isnt ready.
If we sign him, then let him get the time to develop and see where he could end up.
He'll run and work his fucking arse off while trying though, which is more than you can say for the players we've had upfront so far.
Where he comes from doesnt matter either. Imagine that attitude when we signed certain strikers from Chester and Oxford.
 
I'm not sure if it's legal now, but if possible we should insist with any loan deals that the players don't get cup tied. We don't want to repeat the mistake of bringing Ibe back only to be unable to play him in any of the biggest games.
 
Don't see why it wouldn't be legal. The other club might or might not agree to such terms but there'd be nothing to stop such an agreement being made.
 
@Fabio I think it is a lot more difficult for clubs to make a success out of signing players from the lower leagues these days. With the game being the way it is, much more extensive scouting and clubs hoovering up all the talented youngsters it can, very few players fly under the radar at the lower divisions compared to what used to happen. In my opinion, there's a reason why players like Lallana spent the majority of their career in the lower leagues/midtable premier league sides - because he was never deemed good enough by the top sides. Sadly, this goes out the window with Liverpool's transfer policy when we see a player having a good season by his standards. The game has moved on but we haven't in many aspects.

As for Danny Ings, he'll most likely be average/bordering on a bit poo, and we'll be wanting someone better in his place next year. I'm predicting around 7 goals in all competitions.
 
I make that about 12 goals allowing for the Halmeister pessimism factor. 😉 For the no.3 striker I hope he'd be signed to be, that's not bad. It does underline the need to sign another top rank front player as well though.
 
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