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Danny Ings - Confirmed

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Its hard to know what goals to expect from an understudy as you would hope your first choice hits form and keeps on netting without getting injured hence giving less opportunities for him to do so.

I think as long as we are prioritising a first choice striker then Ings is a worthy cause to chase given it would appear to be low effort on the time consuming front i.e. not having to negotiate fees etc.
 
Signing Ings is a potentially very good deal. Firstly he'll give us more than Balotelli, Borini and Lambert.
He scored 11 goals for a team that got relegated in his first season in the PL.
Those of us who watched his game at Old Trafford could see in his performance a lot of the elements that have been missing for us this season.

This to me is the biggest problem with our scouting in general. Is that performance a reflection of his actual ability or an outlier on a good day where he performed two three levels above his natural ability. Not a criticism at you mate but in general our scouts do not seem to have the ability to gauge whether a players performance in a season is his peak or he actually has more latent talent and will improve further when he moves to Liverpool.
 
I hope Ings is a BR pick. If he isn't, then he might as well bring a hammock with him on his way to the bench.
 
I make that about 12 goals allowing for the Halmeister pessimism factor. 😉 For the no.3 striker I hope he'd be signed to be, that's not bad. It does underline the need to sign another top rank front player as well though.


Ha, I prefer the Halmeister "realism factor" but hey ho. I think he'll score about 7 goals in around 35-40 appearances. Not that great, and what we would have expected from the likes of Borini and Lambert this season. As I said, I think he'll be okayish, but ultimately a rather pointless signing that we'll be looking to improve upon in a year or two.
 
We should be spending 100% of the money we have available for strikers this summer on one player who'll improve the XI,
Anything else is a mistake and will take us nowhere.
This is like the millionth time we're gonna do this mistake I can't believe people haven't realized this isn't the way forwards yet.
 
This to me is the biggest problem with our scouting in general. Is that performance a reflection of his actual ability or an outlier on a good day where he performed two three levels above his natural ability. Not a criticism at you mate but in general our scouts do not seem to have the ability to gauge whether a players performance in a season is his peak or he actually has more latent talent and will improve further when he moves to Liverpool.

Thats a good point mate. Think I've read we've scouted him for a few years, so hopefully we've done our homework.
 
Thats a good point mate. Think I've read we've scouted him for a few years, so hopefully we've done our homework.


We've scouted quite a few for years only for them to start very badly, like Markovic. We do our homework okay. We just don't get good marks for it.
 
We've scouted quite a few for years only for them to start very badly, like Markovic. We do our homework okay. We just don't get good marks for it.

I wouldnt put Markovic in that category yet. Rodgers is as much to blame for his struggles this season.
We also knew it could take 12 months to adapt.
 
Well you have to put him in that category now. You can't say he might start badly later. I didn't say it's his fault. I happen to like him. But objectively he HAS made a poor start.
 
Danny Ings is fine in isolation, but if its Ings and Benteke it becomes a problem. We need a world class striker, and we have the money for it, the problem is we are going to waste that money on Benteke.

The problem is that Wold Class strikers don't / won't come to LFC anymore.
 
From the Indie:


Liverpool hope to complete the signing of free agent James Milner this week as manager Brendan Rodgers prepares for his first post-season face-to-face meeting with key figures among the club’s American owners, Fenway Sports Group.

Milner, 29, has been one of Rodgers’ long-standing targets and is available on a free transfer when his contract at Manchester City ends later this month.

One of the players the Liverpool manager considers key to his rebuilding process following the departure of captain Steven Gerrard, Milner would sign a pre-contract committing him to a long-term deal at Anfield when his City contract expires on 30 June.

Liverpool also retain an interest in the Aston Villa striker Christian Benteke but are not prepared to pay the £32.5m buyout clause in the Belgian’s contract.

The Villa manager, Tim Sherwood, said in the aftermath of the club’s FA Cup final defeat on Saturday that Benteke would not be permitted to leave for less than that sum, however Liverpool hope that they can persuade Villa to sell him for less.

Milner has been a highly sought-after free agent, attracting interest from Arsenal as well as Liverpool, but Rodgers is confident that he will sign for the Merseyside club. The England international joins up with Roy Hodgson’s squad at St George’s Park tomorrow ahead of games against the Republic of Ireland and Slovenia.
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Danny Ings has given his word that he will join Liverpool when his Burnley contract expires

The winger is the first of two signings the club want to announce, with Danny Ings, 22, another free agent, having given his assurance that he, too, will join when his Burnley deal expires at the end of this month.

Liverpool are yet to agree a compensation deal with Ings’ club Burnley but they are hopeful of coming to an agreement in the next month to avoid the case going to a transfer tribunal.
 
And from the Echo:


Liverpool are closing in on the signing of James Milner from Manchester City.

The Reds are set to hold advanced talks with the out-of-contract England midfielder this week, and are confident of agreeing a deal that would see the 29-year-old move to Anfield on a free transfer on July 1.

Milner has long been identified as one of Liverpool’s top targets, and has been reluctant to commit his future to City due to concerns over playing time.

A number of other clubs, including Arsenal, have expressed an interest in the versatile former Aston Villa man, but it looks increasingly as though it is Liverpool who have won the race.

The signing would represent a boost for the club, as they look to rebuild following a disappointing season. Reds chiefs are keen to get the deal over the line swiftly, before moving on to other targets.


They are also hopeful of completing a deal for Burnley striker Danny Ings, who is also out of contract, and are preparing a fresh bid for Southampton full back Nathaniel Clyne, who would cost around £15m. An offer of £10m was rejected by Saints last week.

Christian Benteke, the Aston Villa striker, is another target, though the Reds are unlikely to meet the £32.5m buyout clause in the Belgian’s contract. They value the 24-year-old closer to £20m.
 
Both represent a smart value for money signings that will help the club push on. I just hope the money saved on these two signings is put towards some genuine quality up front, and not spread thinly across multiple positions.
 
I think the big reason we might get Milner is because he wants to stay up North. I wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal sway him though. Even if Rodgers is staying, any assurances we give him about playing must surely be seen as balancing on a knife edge, dependent on if we change manager.
 
I think the big reason we might get Milner is because he wants to stay up North. I wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal sway him though. Even if Rodgers is staying, any assurances we give him about playing must surely be seen as balancing on a knife edge, dependent on if we change manager.
If it's first team football he's after I can't see him getting that guaranteed at Arsenal.
 
If it's first team football he's after I can't see him getting that guaranteed at Arsenal.

True that, I just don't see any assurances we give as being that valid. Rodgers could go in the Summer or could be a poor early run next season away from going, it hardly smacks of "long term". I like Milner and hope we do get him though.
 
Both represent a smart value for money signings that will help the club push on. I just hope the money saved on these two signings is put towards some genuine quality up front and not spread thinly across multiple positions.

Its not really money saved. We are paying for extra players, and then sending the shit ones on loan for free whilst paying most of their wages.
 
I think the big reason we might get Milner is because he wants to stay up North. I wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal sway him though. Even if Rodgers is staying, any assurances we give him about playing must surely be seen as balancing on a knife edge, dependent on if we change manager.

Bascombe has gone as far as said there is a verbal agreement with Milner.

If we get Clyne aswell for 15 mill, then thats 2 very good signings that improve the first team and one promising for roughly 20 mill. Great start to the transfer window imho. If it happens..
 
Bascombe has gone as far as said there is a verbal agreement with Milner.

If we get Clyne aswell for 15 mill, then thats 2 very good signings that improve the first team and one promising for roughly 20 mill. Great start to the transfer window imho. If it happens..

I don't see it. These players remind me of Downing, Carroll, and Cole. Yes they are much cheaper, but ability wise it's pretty fucking far from very good.
 
I don't see it. These players remind me of Downing, Carroll, and Cole. Yes they are much cheaper, but ability wise it's pretty fucking far from very good.

Clyne is one of the best right backs in England and could be our first team right back for 8-9 years.

Milner is extremely far from being close to Downing, Cole or Carroll.

Ings is a gamble, but a promising one.
 
Clyne is one of the best right backs in England and could be our first team right back for 8-9 years.

Milner is extremely far from being close to Downing, Cole or Carroll.

Ings is a gamble, but a promising one.
Yep, great start, and covers all the positions we badly need, besides from the top top striker, hopefully we'd spend the rest of the window getting that one sorted.
 
The good thing is all three have a genuine competitive spirit, so that would be a boost if they all come. At least we'll have three players, along with Hendo and Skittles, with a bit of tenacity and fight. We need top quality on top of that now.

But there's a huge risk there that you sacrifice quality and technique for good old British fighting spirit.
 
But there's a huge risk there that you sacrifice quality and technique for good old British fighting spirit.


I don't mean that at all. I mean the team needs good players who actually care and will try to win again. We have about four of them at present. Milner is a very good player. Ings is better than many think. Clyne is a fine right back.
 
The trouble with that is that it would leave us with the likes of Borini as stand-in.

Sturridge, new guy, Origi, Yesil, Sinclair and at a push Sterling to play in one position up front.

If we play with two upfront, that effectively leaves us with Coutinho, Sterling, Lallana, Markovic & Ibe effectively fighting over 1 attacking midfield role - unless they drop further back in midfield or move to full back.

If we add Ings & another new striker whet does that leave the likes of Yesil & Sinclair - on loan?
 
Probably yeah. Would that be so bad? Both have talent but they need regular football to show what they can do and to get used to playing at a higher standard than reserve football.
 
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