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Is that in random conversations or just before we play arsenal?

Fair, not as random as the Jude compliments. It is a player he's consistently praised though.


I reckon he's been playing the long game, trying to woo Jude, and now it's got to this summer and he realised he's fucked it, and he needs fuckign loads of replacements
 
I just can't see Jude staying at Dortmund another year. The hype can't possibly build any larger and he risks injury or loss of form before making a megamove.

Prior to this season I would have said it's smarter to join us, if he's a fan, because he could always move to Real later for more money and potentially trophies.

But with us floundering without an apparent plan, I just don't think it makes sense to choose us.

Dortmund are going to get great offers. It's really about where does the player want to go imo.
 
Fair, not as random as the Jude compliments. It is a player he's consistently praised though.


I reckon he's been playing the long game, trying to woo Jude, and now it's got to this summer and he realised he's fucked it, and he needs fuckign loads of replacements
Not random if it’s the press at a press conference asking him about his thoughts on a player.
 
Not random if it’s the press at a press conference asking him about his thoughts on a player.
In my mind he wouldn’t be asked about Martinelli in the build up to the city game and then for him to praise him. In the build up to Arsenal it makes sense.

The whole Bellingham thing was unprofessional. When asked it should’ve been a plain answer like he isn’t our player not our opponent so I won’t comment.
 
In my mind he wouldn’t be asked about Martinelli in the build up to the city game and then for him to praise him. In the build up to Arsenal it makes sense.

The whole Bellingham thing was unprofessional. When asked it should’ve been a plain answer like he isn’t our player not our opponent so I won’t comment.

Exactly. Also, the LFC background team spend ages sending out feelers through their messenger boys in the press - searching for the right midfielder, wait for Jude, he is the chosen one, only one capable of playing in our setup, blah blah.

At the same time, some of us were stating is it worth committing so much money on one player given the aging squad. We were not asking for 100 million players. What we wanted was smart strategic investments. That entire Ferrari analogy is demeaning and insulting from Klopp. We are not the type to throw toys out of the pram because we need shiny 150 million gifts.

We are not annoyed at not getting Bellingham. We are annoyed because keyboard warriors on message boards could see this coming from miles away. We are worried on possibility that our data nerd super smart background team is actually dumb enough to believe that they could get Bellingham for anything less than close to world record fee.

We didn't think we were getting a Ferrari for Christmas. You guys thought that you get get a Ferrari for the price of a Toyota Highlander. And were shouting from the rooftops about it. Don't put it on us.
 
I think the operative number in that presser is “six” and not necessarily the fee. Klopp has, mid season if not earlier, realised the enormity of the rebuilding task. We need about six players in the summer and we’ve got to be a lot smarter than simply going for the latest overpriced flavour of the month.

To be fair to Klopp, the issue of the midfield and general rebuilding job has been a long running theme starting in earnest in the close season so some of his responses are just reflecting the tedium of saying the same thing pretty much every game day press conference.
 
Klopp on Jude Bellingham: There's nothing to say about, to be honest. We don't speak about players we don't sign. Nothing to say about (it).

Klopp: If a 5-year-old child asks for a Ferrari for Christmas, you don't say 'good idea'. What we need and what we want, we try absolutely everything to get it. There are moments we have to accept this or that are not possible for us and step aside.

Nothing to say except we're shit and can't afford him. Straight from the horses mouth there.
 
What's the consensus on Alexis Mac Allister, how does he compare to other options?

Not sure about comparisons to others but remember watching the WC thinking he'd be great for us - he was Argentina's key man, moreso than Enzo in my opinion.
 
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I think the operative number in that presser is “six” and not necessarily the fee. Klopp has, mid season if not earlier, realised the enormity of the rebuilding task. We need about six players in the summer and we’ve got to be a lot smarter than simply going for the latest overpriced flavour of the month.

To be fair to Klopp, the issue of the midfield and general rebuilding job has been a long running theme starting in earnest in the close season so some of his responses are just reflecting the tedium of saying the same thing pretty much every game day press conference.

Most of us dumbos on message boards knew that we need close to six players. @King Binny has been posting visualizations on our squad age profile being on the wrong side for the best part of three years. The fact that Klopp and his team woke up from their Bellingham induced trance and realized it only now is the worrying part.
 
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Klopp on Jude Bellingham: There's nothing to say about, to be honest. We don't speak about players we don't sign. Nothing to say about (it).

Klopp: I never understood why we constantly talk about things we theoretically can't have like six players in the summer for £100m (each). You have to realise what you can do then you have to work with it.

Klopp: If a 5-year-old child asks for a Ferrari for Christmas, you don't say 'good idea'. What we need and what we want, we try absolutely everything to get it. There are moments we have to accept this or that are not possible for us and step aside.

Same energy as when my long term crush got attached to the coolest guy on campus.
 
Sunday Times and Norcroft reporting that Bellingham might stay for one more year if the right move isnt there this summer. Wont be forced into making a choice about a team. No indication that he favors Liverpool.
 
Carra saying what Momo has been saying for ages.

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Liverpool and Jurgen Klopp built a level of trust with regards to transfers which was the envy of Europe.

That trust has gone with news they will not be pursuing Jude Bellingham this summer. It must be won back in the next transfer window because Klopp, his recruitment team and owners Fenway Sports Group have been granted a free pass for the dire performances of the last eight months, especially away from home.
There has been patience because of the quality since Klopp moved to Liverpool. Aside from a mid-season dip during the lockdown year, the club has been on an upward trajectory until now. When a Liverpool manager wins what Klopp has, he becomes a god and it will take more than one bad year to change that.

There was also confidence because Liverpool have a track record of waiting for the players they really want rather than haphazardly working through alternatives. When they failed to sign Aurélien Tchouaméni from Monaco in 2022, they opted not to use the £70 million he would have cost to buy another midfielder. They indicated wanting the right player, not any player. Everything pointed to waiting for Bellingham.

The supporters were sold the dream that the next Steven Gerrard was Anfield-bound. While no one at Liverpool ever publicly acknowledged that plan, there was no attempt to dissuade anyone from such a view, especially when Klopp enthusiastically praised the Borussia Dortmund teenager after the World Cup.

There was a historic precedent because the same strategy led Klopp to wait six months for Virgil van Dijk, a keeper of Alisson Becker’s class and a full season for Naby Keita. Van Dijk and Alisson were the game-changers that helped take Liverpool to the Champions League and Premier League titles.
Now, Liverpool have made it known they cannot afford Bellingham, after all. Naturally, there is anger and frustration from those who feel misled and confused.

The discontent that I and many Liverpool supporters feltwhen the Bellingham revelation emerged on Tuesday evening is about the realisation the entire season has been a write-off based on a false pretence – that the money was there to go big on a stellar player as it was with Van Dijk, while still adding further necessary reinforcements to go again. How can the club suddenly baulk at a valuation exceeding £100 million? They know that is the going rate for the best in class.

What really infuriates me is the red herring that Liverpool have reached the conclusion Bellingham is too expensive on the basis of Klopp’s rebuild being bigger than initially thought. The club knows the elephant in the room is failing to sign a ready-made central midfielder last summer.

What looked like a terrible mistake has become a monumental cock-up which has cost the club millions in the Champions League revenues they will lose by finishing outside of the top four, and has sent the team back to where it was just before Klopp’s appointment.

At the end of last season, Liverpool were always going to need three midfielders over 12 months – preferably at least one in 2022, and another two in 2023. Some argue they should have made a midfield signing earlier, in the summer of 2021. That is harsh given how close Liverpool were to winning every major trophy in 2022. But over the course of last season, the pieces had to be in place for midfield renewal.
The contract situations and age profiles of senior players spelt that out. Jordan Henderson has been a fantastic servant, but at 32 there was always a possibility the burden of recent years would take its toll. The same is true of Fabinho, who is approaching his 30th birthday. Thiago Alcantara is a class player but often injured. James Milner, now 37, was out of contract last summer, but signed for another season. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Keita are in the final year of their deals after disappointing Liverpool careers.
This makes the idea that the club has suddenly realised they need three midfielders rather than one misleading. Had Tchouaméni chosen Liverpool over Madrid a year ago, Klopp would still have had to replace Oxlade-Chamberlain, Keita and Milner this summer.
That is his biggest mistake on this issue and he knows it, the last minute scramble for Arthur Melo on the final day of last August’s transfer window the big giveaway that he realised his error in not recruiting before the last pre-season. That deal was an embarrassing climbdown and waste of money. The justification for it at the time was Liverpool were biding their time for the longer-term target.

The situation should never have reached a stage where pursuing Bellingham would compromise Klopp’s ability to make the three or four other signings he needs to revitalise the starting XI.

What should have been a natural midfield evolution has now turned into a complete rebuild because the same attention was not given to maintaining the dynamism in the centre that it was to the attack.
Fans would have accepted not signing Gakpo to land Bellingham

Liverpool have spent over £200 million on strikers, and given Mohamed Salah a massive new contract, since they last bought a first-choice central midfielder. Those deals were necessary as Roberto Firmino was declining, and good money was recouped for 30-year-old Sadio Mane.

Then Cody Gakpo signed for £40 million in January, even though the side was crying out for more midfield energy. Gakpo has made a promising start. I like him. But now it is even more baffling that another striker was prioritised. Most supporters would have willingly accepted the Gakpo outlay being kept back to turn a £90 million Bellingham bid into a £130 million signing.

This is the first time I have openly questioned Liverpool’s transfer policy during the Klopp era.

I get that Liverpool cannot spend like Manchester City, and they are not and should never be like Chelsea, who seem to sign highly rated, mega-expensive players on a whim without any idea how or where they will fit into the team and manager’s vision.
But it is on the club to think long-term, recognising at least a year in advance where the team will need reinforcing, and there are moments when pushing the boat out to do what is necessary to lure a generational talent is the way to propel a side to the next level. Liverpool did so with Van Dijk and Alisson, and a similar statement with Bellingham would have transformed expectations going into next season.

After a year working on a deal, it feels like a timid surrender to step aside and allow Manchester City and Real Madrid to fight it out. There are times when a club of Liverpool's stature has to flex some muscle and remind their rivals they can and will be there to compete off and on the pitch.

To walk away because there is now too much work needed across the whole squad smacks of weakness, negligence and poor planning.
“Nobody could see this season coming,” has been a recurring excuse for Liverpool’s terrible season.

Plenty did last summer. If those in power at Anfield did not, they took their eye off the ball.
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We should buy him this summer, with all that has been hinted he wants to come. And how I see it we can get Bellinghan and maybe two more decent players "IF" we are given the 250m prormised by FSG.
250m plus sale of players
Or, we yet again settle for player that are not at the top of the game, while teams like Real,PSG, Barca,City, UTD, Chelsea,Bayern and Newcastle look to buy the very best and we settle for the "not quite as good"players every season and over time become less and less competitive

And who is to say that next season Bellingham will be any cheaper. M'bappe wasn't, Or that by next season he would not have changed his mind because he feels that he has been messed about by us and chooses City Or Real...?

Or As I believe will happen FSG will tell us that we have not got Jude Bellinghan type of money
 
If we don’t get European football at all then we can afford to only get Jude.

We’ll have fuck all games and a week break between most games. Like we did in 13/14.

Jude would drag the others around him up.

Badger
Jude
Thiago/Fabhino/Henderson/Jones/Trent

More than enough to dominate next season.

Doak will be ready then too.
 
If we don’t get European football at all then we can afford to only get Jude.

We’ll have fuck all games and a week break between most games. Like we did in 13/14.

Jude would drag the others around him up.

Badger
Jude
Thiago/Fabhino/Henderson/Jones/Trent

More than enough to dominate next season.

Doak will be ready then too.

That midfield is not enough, and who we playing at right back? Or we running Trent into the ground?
 
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