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I thought last night he tried to hard at times and players ahead of him clearly were not on his thought level, he tried the one two at least four times without success which with better players around him might have paid off. There were certainly encouraging signs, throughout the game when he got possession the team seemed to push forward more than when we have Lucas, Masch and Stevie.

I think the absence of Gerrard could be a blessing for Aquilani.
 
But purple isn't anywhere near as quick, powerful, talented as Gerrard. Nor is he likely to score anywhere near the same amount of goals.
 
It would be nice to think so but Aquilani's game seems to rely heavily on pass and move, whereas Liverpool's current game relies heavily on hoofing, losing the ball and generally being fucking shit.

In the absence of Torres, Yossi and Gerrard, the team is being deprived of most of it's technical ability and pace. Not very encouraging.
 
I'm very reluctant to defend Brendan, not least because he doesn't really need it, but whether people like it or not if a player is slow it's not a good thing. Especially if it's in a league where there are some teams with players who are very fast. it's not just about being able to race down the wing and send in a great cross at pace. It's about being able to recover when you lose the ball or you're caught out of position. So a concern about someone like Rodriguez is not just that he won't be able to run past a lot of Premiership full backs, it's that if he loses the ball to them and they get past he won't be able to catch them.

It's a similar story with small players. We know that there are some small players who can really jump and head the ball well. But normally tall players are better at heading the ball. They have an advantage in that their heads are further from the ground and closer to the sky from which the ball is dropping. Some of you may recall that at one time we had a very tall and strong back four. Their height meant that the ball frequently hit their heads before the opposition could get it.

Passing is also important. If a player seems to struggle to pass quickly and accurately to team-mates in more advanced positions it means that the ball is less likely to move toward the opposition's goal at a rate that would inconvenience their attempts to defend. This is a bad thing.

By watching players, it's often possible to observe whether they can run fast, if they're tall and if they can pass a ball forward accurately and without too much delay. More often than not, a player who struggles in one or more of these areas will have to be an absolute marvel to succeed.
 
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I'm very reluctant to defend Brendan, not least because he doesn't really need it, but whether people like it or not if a player is slow it's not a good thing. Especially if it's in a league where there are some teams with players who are very fast. it's not just about being able to race down the wing and send in a great cross at pace. It's about being able to recover when you lose the ball or you're caught out of position. So a concern about someone like Rodriguez is not just that he won't be able to run past a lot of Premiership full backs, it's that if he loses the ball to them and they get past he won't be able to catch them.

It's a similar story with small players. We know that there are some small players who can really jump and head the ball well. But normally tall players are better at heading the ball. They have an advantage in that their heads are further from the ground and closer to the sky from which the ball is dropping. Some of you may recall that at one time we had a very tall and strong back four. Their height meant that the ball frequently hit their heads before the opposition could get it.

Passing is also important. If a player seems to struggle to pass quickly and accurately to team-mates in more advanced positions it means that the ball is less likely to move toward the opposition's goal at a rate that would inconvenience their attempts to defend. This is a bad thing.

By watching players, it's often possible to observe whether they can run fast, if they're tall and if they can pass a ball forward accurately and without too much delay. More often than not, a player who struggles in one or more of these areas will have to be an absolute marvel to succeed.


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Lollerskates
 
I'd like to pay for Glock/Doc Rule to go on Genes "Football 101" course
 
I don't understand football and tactics and shit though. I admit that. There's probably a formation or pattern of passing that we can develop that will overcome weaknesses like this.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38446.msg1034175#msg1034175 date=1263496217]
Football = not that complicated

Fast, good players > slow, good players > slow shit players > slow shit small players > Diao


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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38446.msg1034182#msg1034182 date=1263496762]
What about slow players who have fast brains? Are they better than fast players with slow brains? Or equal?
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They are better. For example, Alonso (Slow but clever) is better than Diaby (Quick but thick as pig shit)
 
Interesting question Sheik, I think it depends on the brain. Sissoko's brain was, for example, very fast. He made decisions in the blink of an eye.

That time he tried to play a one-two with the great celestial unknown was, for example, the consequence of really hasty thought processes.
 
Ultimately, I guess decision-making is more important than speed of thought - although the two are related.
 
I think I'd go for slow with a brain, although the position they play in, and team, obviously has an impact

Cf Kenny Dalglish vs Milan Baros

But then Kenny had a quicksilver partner in Rush
 
It's all a delightful combination. A team of slow clever players wouldn't win anythin for example. Sometimes you need lightning players like brendan says, to compliment the intelligence of others
 
an old Tony Adams quote something along the lines of "Sol Campbell had pace so could make mistakes and recover. I didn't have pace so didn't make mistakes"*






* apart from after a couple of pints obviously
 
I loved Nigel Clough. #7's were always my favourite...

Kenny
Beardsley
Saunders (I fucking loved him at the time)
Clough
McManaman

then it all went wrong... At least Smicer said he didn't deserve the #7 shirt, so he took Billy Liddell's #11 instead.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=38446.msg1034198#msg1034198 date=1263497518]
I loved Nigel Clough. #7's were always my favourite...

Kenny
Beardsley
Saunders (I fucking loved him at the time)
Clough
McManaman

then it all went wrong... At least Smicer said he didn't deserve the #7 shirt, so he took Billy Liddell's #11 instead.
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which harry kewell proudly then decided to don
 
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=38446.msg1033778#msg1033778 date=1263479056]
I think Aquilani would be better utilized further up the pitch. I know Gerrard and Torres are arguably the best forward partnership in the league but we need to shake things up and I think Aquilani could shine in Gerrards position. Last night he was the only one who looked like being able to provide an incisive pass in the final 1/3. Before he came here I was excited by the YouTube clips because he seemed very adept at doing just that and I felt he was just what we needed. If we swapped Aquilani and Gerrard around we could have someone in midfield that is a) a playmaker and b) good in the tackle and break play up. Both of which Aquilani is not very good at (by his own admission).
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This I agree with.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=38446.msg1033519#msg1033519 date=1263464497]
Anyone who writes him off is a fool, I think he does have potential, but I also think people can have concerns about his future ability to cope with the premier league. I think we can also question the wisdom in buying a player for a key position who partly due to buying as damaged goods was always going to take at least a season to settle in.
For that I don't even think "the worst signing of the summer " tag is particularly unreasonable.

regards
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To be honest the statement of "Worst signing of the summer" came from a thread where Rednapp (I think) named him as the worst. As many posters in the thread pointed out, it had nothing to do with how good he is or how much quality he has and everything to do with the fact he cost nearly 20m and didn't play a game in the first half of the season - you can't get much worse than that.


The Midfield Morientes, as brendan says, could stick and that would be unfair because he hasn't had the time to present what he can do. However, even if he is an utter star next season and becomes a Kop legend down through the ages, he's still the worst or close to the worst signing for this season. You don't sell an outstanding player who sits in an absolutely pivotal role for your playing style, replace him with a long term injured player and not expect serious repercussions.

I for one did not expect them to be as serious as we've had but I was not alone in the summer saying that Xabi's departure without an immediate playing replacement is going to cause some real issues.
 
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=38446.msg1033519#msg1033519 date=1263464497]
Anyone who writes him off is a fool, I think he does have potential, but I also think people can have concerns about his future ability to cope with the premier league. I think we can also question the wisdom in buying a player for a key position who partly due to buying as damaged goods was always going to take at least a season to settle in.
For that I don't even think "the worst signing of the summer " tag is particularly unreasonable.

regards
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To be honest the statement of "Worst signing of the summer" came from a thread where Rednapp (I think) named him as the worst. As many posters in the thread pointed out, it had nothing to do with how good he is or how much quality he has and everything to do with the fact he cost nearly 20m and didn't play a game in the first half of the season - you can't get much worse than that.


The Midfield Morientes, as brendan says, could stick and that would be unfair because he hasn't had the time to present what he can do. However, even if he is an utter star next season and becomes a Kop legend down through the ages, he's still the worst or close to the worst signing for this season. You don't sell an outstanding player who sits in an absolutely pivotal role for your playing style, replace him with a long term injured player and not expect serious repercussions.

I for one did not expect them to be as serious as we've had but I was not alone in the summer saying that Xabi's departure without an immediate playing replacement is going to cause some real issues.
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A lot of people thought that Lucas would step up though...
 
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38446.msg1034564#msg1034564 date=1263553022]
Not one person on here believed Lucas could step up and replace Xabi.
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I think Ryan made a few comments on how we could probably let Masher go and use Lucarse instead.

Ahahahaha.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Headwand also used to claim that Lucas should start playing instead of Alonso WHILE ALONSO WAS STILL HERE.

Although he wasn't alone in his Alonso-hating. Sadly.
 
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