Andy Carroll

[jexykrodic]

The incident was pathetic. Even more so was the petulance shown when leaving the field.

I've no idea how this situation can be redeemed. At minimum he's become the focus of attention and needs removing from the spotlight.

 

[Hansern]

That video clearly shows he looses his footing. But whatever, people will believe what they want to and what fits their agenda.

As Ryan said though, fucking close to the sexiest goal in ages. The build up was immense, but like his Liverpool career there was absolutly no end product.

 

[Sunny]

I still think he needs to played regularly. Hows is he meant to gain any semblance of form otherwise?

 

[dantes]

Before that Carroll might have been looking for a penalty. When he rounded the keeper like I said he should have shifted the ball diagonally. Instead he moved it to the side and put his body between it and the keeper. So he was probably expecting contact and to go down. That's where the problem started, and the reason the ball was underneath him instead of out in front ready to be hit. It's almost as bad as a dive and equally as cowardly. But it's not cheating or simulation cos he never intended to fall over once there was no foul.

 

[Hansern]

Kenny has been shocking regarding Andy tbh. After the Stoke and Everton game he was about to find some form and then 3 games on the bench.

We win games with those two on the pitch, play'em.

Ridiculous.

 

[Oncy]

Ive never read such a pile of horseshit.
He dived and its laughable and pathetic to suggest otherwise. But whatever the fuck ever.

 

[25_05_05]

Carroll's treatment has been the antithesis of how Kenny has handled Henderson. Unfortunately, both have suffered as a result of it.

 

[Hansern]

So its laughable and pathetic to have a different opinion?

Are there new rules to the forum? Under the old Soviet Union section?

Fucking hell

 

[Oncy]

So its laughable and pathetic to have a different opinion?

Are there new rules to the forum? Under the old Soviet Union section?

Fucking hell

I think you missed my last line. And yes that opinion that you are blinkering yourself into believing is laughable.

 

[Jack D Rips]

Yes apparently we are all entitled to an opinion even if it is a stupid one

 

[Oncy]

Yes apparently we are all entitled to an opinion even if it is a stupid one

*Knucks*

 

[Rosco]

Hansern are you trolling ?

 

[Jack D Rips]

"googles "knucks". yields zero results"

 

[Oncy]

"googles "knucks". yields zero results"

You used the wrong google. You need to check out www.homeboygoogle.com

 

[Rosco]

You used the wrong google. You need to check out www.homeboygoogle.com

He's so white

 

[Oncy]

He's so white

Get me!

 

[Hansern]

Hansern are you trolling ?

That I am. However I dont think it is as cut and dry as most on here about the dive. I honestly think its somewhere in between. Losing his footing and thinking fuck it I'm going down for a penalty. It looks like a combo where ha cant make up his mind falls over and choses the wrong option.
It looked stupid though, horrendously stupid.

And it made the game very hard for him.

 

[mark1975]

It's rare I write a player off, but he just lacks the mental strength, the physical fitness and the touch to be a success. He's a complete disaster and him losing his rag on Sunday was unjustified on the back of yet another hapless display of poor decision making, moaning and generally offering fuck all.

He has to go.

 

[hmmmmm1]

stick with him, with some decent creative signings in summer (hopes!) he could be a useful asset for the next 5/10 years

 

[refugee]

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKRYlVJ_EHU&feature=player_embedded

Gerrard made a great run down the right and really should have been given the ball in that clip. Instead the ball was ran into a dead end.

 

[The Slugmonster]

If we could offload him and bring in huntelaar (who would also solve our penalty problems) during the summer, even at a loss, I wouldnt have a problem with that.

 

[Leo]

Huntelaar is probably the most underrated striker in Europe.
Problem is that we missed the boat last summer and his transfer fee will now have doubled I'd say.

 

[Delinquent]

I think it's been clear for a long time that he was never magically going to transform into some kind of devastating forward. He doesn't appear to have a genuine appetite for success or any kind of sincere work ethic.

Even though it's been over a year since we bought him, I'm still totally bemused by the whole thing. What's more, I can't figure out who will buy him off us should we choose to get rid. It feels like we're saddled with him for the long haul.

I suspect it will be a newly promoted side. We'll lose over £20m on him though, for sure.

 

[Ryan]

You're looking at it like from the point of view of a footballer. I'm just trying to explain the mechanics of what happened.

Carroll after he jumps, is travelling through the air at a relatively high velocity. Then as he lands, well imagine for yourself how you would land... you'd have to land in your stride and carry on running forward. The exact same scenario would be if you jump up on the spot and land on a treadmill (in this case the ground is moving backwards, whilst you are stationary... but relativistically the mechanics are the same). So in that case what happens? Correct, you fall flat on your face.

To keep his balance, Carroll had to land on his right foot, then immediately push forward of it... so his right foot is planted and the rest of his body goes ahead of it, continuing to run. What Carroll actually did was try to kick the ball with his right foot, in other words, his right foot was moving fowards ahead of his body. This is the exact opposite of how to land. It's exactly like landing on a treadmill without running... your face hits the floor.

Whatever kind of cunt he may be, it is just not physically possible for him to have stayed on his feet after he decided to kick the ball out from under him.

I'll happily admit I know fuck all about the hadron collider.

You Dantes have quite clearly never set foot on a fucking football pitch though.

 

[refugee]

I suspect it will be a newly promoted side. We'll lose over £20m on him though, for sure.

Maybe Wigan if they stay up, they like to gamble on young English players. QPR would also have money.
Villa might be looking for a replacement for Bent and Martin O'Neil signed a number of English players for Villa so he might want to do the same at Sunderland.

 

[dantes]

I'll happily admit I know fuck all about the hadron collider.

You Dantes have quite clearly never set foot on a fucking football pitch though.

And your brain has never processed information in as much detail as I'm asking you to. Go to the youtube video, and keep replaying the bit from 47 seconds. 50 times if you need to, it will only take a minute. There is a few milliseconds gap between his right leg kicking the ball, and his left leg landing on the ground. The reason you are saying it is a dive, is because you have not noticed that millisecond gap or else you do not understand the physical significance of it.

If he didn't flick his left leg in the first place, then it would have landed first and he could have pushed off from it whilst using his right leg to kick the ball. However his left leg was still in the air when he kicked the ball. So he landed on his right foot...whilst it was sliding forwards and the grass underneath it was effectively sliding backwards.

You may be a professional footballer, but that doesn't make you superman, Ryan. Everyone obeys basic physics.

 

[Oncy]

*shakes head*
It was a dive Dantes.
Youre being a plank.

 

[dantes]

*shakes head*
It was a dive Dantes.
Youre being a plank.

You know what then. Get your mate to record you on their phone. Head down to the park. Take a 100 yard run up at pace, then jump and land on your right foot whilst sliding it forwards as you kick a ball that is underneath and slightly behind you. If you stay on your feet, then I'll assassinate andy carroll on your behalf, and threaten comolli into offering you a professional contract in time for the FA cup final.

 

[spider-Neil]

winning your own flick on, powering your way into the box via a cheeky nutmeg is pretty freaking awesome but after that...

oh dear, andy.

 

[Oncy]

You know what then. Get your mate to record you on their phone. Head down to the park. Take a 100 yard run up at pace, then jump and land on your right foot whilst sliding it forwards as you kick a ball that is underneath and slightly behind you. If you stay on your feet, then I'll assassinate andy carroll on your behalf, and threaten comolli into offering you a professional contract in time for the FA cup final.

Sometimes I love these little things you do Dantes. This one is tedious.
He dived.