Ward's contract is supposed to be up at the end of this month isn't it? Vigouroux has signed a new 2-year deal, but there's no news of a new contract agreement with Ward. No idea if he's rejected a new deal, or he's not been offered one.
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I suppose the flip side to that is Ward isn't playing, as number two, so it might be beneficial for him to go on loan while a more senior deputy steps in in the short term.
I agree though, I'd much rather see a young keeper on the bench keeping Mignolet on his toes, but the keeper has to have quality and you have to be able to see it, otherwise the whole process is pointless. If the keeper on the bench is just making up the numbers and everyone knows that, bar disaster, they're not really a threat to the first team spot, then complacency is only around the corner.
I agree though, I'd much rather see a young keeper on the bench keeping Mignolet on his toes, but the keeper has to have quality and you have to be able to see it, otherwise the whole process is pointless. If the keeper on the bench is just making up the numbers and everyone knows that, bar disaster, they're not really a threat to the first team spot, then complacency is only around the corner.
Yes, but Ward IS playing. In the reserves. That should once again be where the reserve keeper plays. Not playing and just sitting on the bench has to be one of the most stupendously stupid innovations of the modern game. There's only one way a player gets to be and then remains a good player. That's by playing. Week in, week out. There are no good players who are permanent fixtures on a bench. There are just blokes sitting on a bench.
Yes, I agree. Do they play enough in the reserves though and is that level a good barometer? It's difficult with keepers, whereas with Ibe, Sinclair etc you can thrown them on late in a game against tired legs, it's difficult with GK's, it's hard to throw them into cup games without the urge to protect them.
No, you're right, they could play more games and the competitiveness could be better, but at least they ARE playing.
I feel sorry for the back up keeper. He sits there, game after game, then around comes the legendary cup game where the first choice is rested, and, surprise surprise, he has minimal rapport with the back four (which is probably also unsettled by a couple of youngsters), he's incredibly rusty and hesitant, and the fans immediately say, 'God, he's shit!' There are some back up keepers at other clubs, in their thirties, who've only played about 30-odd competitive games in their entire careers. I know the money's good but blimey, it's a weird way to be a pro.
Yep, I think it's good that that's now the way with the reserves team, but there are drawbacks. Notably your fringe players barely get any football, because there's no reserve games for them to keep their match sharpness, while the standard to some degree has dropped at reserve level due to the age & inexperience in there, it's essentially the crest of youth football, but it's created a significant gap between reserve level and first team level.
As more and more money gets pumped into the game, I think that'll be the next way to go. But then FFP might have an effect because teams will then want big squads again.
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[article=http://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2015/6/8/8740425/adam-bogdan-is-good-enough-for-liverpool]Friends, it would seem that the inevitable day that we'd all been fearing has finally come to pass, as it looks as if our ginger prince, our sacred wotsit, our beloved Shaggy, our fantastic goalkeeper, Adam Bogdan, is all but set to be joining Liverpool on a free transfer.
No matter how painstakingly obvious Bogdan's eventual departure was, I'm still finding it a little difficult to take. Bogdan is currently Bolton Wanderers' longest serving player. I've watched him grow from an awkward understudy, to a nervous first choice who couldn't keep hold of a ball all too well, then on to a fine goalkeeper who, with some minor blemishes aside, has near on perfected every facet of his game.
We've seen him (and rightly so, in my opinion) usurp the legendary Jussi Jaaskelainen from the number one spot he filled for over a decade. He's now one of, if not the, best player currently in our squad and should have been a candidate to take the captain's armband for the coming campaign.
Sadly, however, we may have seen him perform in a white (well, orange/green/pink/gold/ect) shirt for the last time, and with him potentially going to work for the increasingly bewildering and idiotic David Brent impersonator, Brendan Rodgers, we may not see him play a meaningful game again for quite a while. Due to the shark look-a-like probably only signing Bogdan to play second fiddle to the largely inconsistent and largely shit Simon Mignolet.
Anyway, as I said and as you may already be able to tell, I'm finding the news of Bogdan's departure rather difficult to contend with. Initially, my feelings consisted more of sadness, regret and worry, as I know I'll never watch Bogdan play for my club again, regret for how badly he was treated by an embarrassing number of supposed Wanderers fans when he was on a bad run of form, and worry as said club now finds its self in need of two new goalkeepers.
But those emotions, thanks to the wonderful morsels of musing apparent knowledge from a fair number of Liverpool fans on the internet, have solidified into a seething rage that's soaring from the pit of my stomach and burning my fingers as I type this.
Some of the reactions from Liverpool fans (when I say Liverpool fans, it's usually the fucking idiots on Twitter who have a footballer as their avatar, talk absolute shite, base all of their football knowledge from FIFA and have a vocab which predominantly consists of terms such as ‘bantz' and other such turgid diction) have genuinely pissed me off, due to the complete ignorance and idiocy of them. For the sake of my health, I'm not going to embark on another search of Tweets to show you examples, but just search ‘Bogdan' on Twitter, and you'll find them with little issue.
I don't have a particular issue with LFC fans saying they should have perhaps gone for a better goalkeeper, one who's played his football in a better league in recent years, that's a more than fair point. I'm sure signing a player who's leaving a lowly Championship club on a free is hardly inspiring. On the face of things, due to his injuries in the past season, it does appear as if Bogdan was second choice to Lonergan for the majority of the campaign, which of course is incorrect. It doesn't help when this false assertion is constantly spread like wild fire by big websites who should probably do a little bit more research before writing an article. Squwaka, I'm looking at you.
However, it's Liverpool supporters claiming that Bogdan isn't good enough for them that is really boiling my piss, because the fact of the matter is that he absolutely is.
If Boggers is to go to Anfield only to be the 2nd choice to Mignolet, which seems very likely, then he'll be the best reserve goalkeeper they've had for quite a while. Doni, Itange, Bogdan's fellow countryman Gulacsi (at least when he played for Liverpool) and especially Brad Jones all come nowhere near to the quality of Bogdan. I have seen a lot of more reasonable and clever Liverpool fans state this opinion, in fairness, but one tweet of that mind set really made me lose my shit. "Bogdan's just as good as Jones," it read. "Just as good". JUST AS GOOD?!? I'd rather have the statue of Nat Lofthouse in my goal over Brad fucking Jones, because at least the ball would hit the static mass of metal on occasion.
As a back up, Bogdan is an excellent piece of business by Liverpool as they've signed a strong, commanding, reliable goalkeeper who can make some of the most laws of physics defying saves imaginable. All for nothing!
Liverpool supporters are bemoaning Brendan's apparent lack of ambition with signing a Championship goalkeeper, but trust me when I say this Liverpool fans, he's actually done a great piece of business for once, as surprising as it may sound.
Bogdan's outstanding performance at Anfield wasn't an anomaly, that's the goalkeeper he is now. Come half way through next season, when Mignolet is on a dodgy patch of form and is consistently making errors that lead to you dropping points - you'll be happy to have him then. I promise you.[/article]
[article=http://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2015/6/8/8740425/adam-bogdan-is-good-enough-for-liverpool]Friends, it would seem that the inevitable day that we'd all been fearing has finally come to pass, as it looks as if our ginger prince, our sacred wotsit, our beloved Shaggy, our fantastic goalkeeper, Adam Bogdan, is all but set to be joining Liverpool on a free transfer.
No matter how painstakingly obvious Bogdan's eventual departure was, I'm still finding it a little difficult to take. Bogdan is currently Bolton Wanderers' longest serving player. I've watched him grow from an awkward understudy, to a nervous first choice who couldn't keep hold of a ball all too well, then on to a fine goalkeeper who, with some minor blemishes aside, has near on perfected every facet of his game.
We've seen him (and rightly so, in my opinion) usurp the legendary Jussi Jaaskelainen from the number one spot he filled for over a decade. He's now one of, if not the, best player currently in our squad and should have been a candidate to take the captain's armband for the coming campaign.
Sadly, however, we may have seen him perform in a white (well, orange/green/pink/gold/ect) shirt for the last time, and with him potentially going to work for the increasingly bewildering and idiotic David Brent impersonator, Brendan Rodgers, we may not see him play a meaningful game again for quite a while. Due to the shark look-a-like probably only signing Bogdan to play second fiddle to the largely inconsistent and largely shit Simon Mignolet.
Anyway, as I said and as you may already be able to tell, I'm finding the news of Bogdan's departure rather difficult to contend with. Initially, my feelings consisted more of sadness, regret and worry, as I know I'll never watch Bogdan play for my club again, regret for how badly he was treated by an embarrassing number of supposed Wanderers fans when he was on a bad run of form, and worry as said club now finds its self in need of two new goalkeepers.
But those emotions, thanks to the wonderful morsels of musing apparent knowledge from a fair number of Liverpool fans on the internet, have solidified into a seething rage that's soaring from the pit of my stomach and burning my fingers as I type this.
Some of the reactions from Liverpool fans (when I say Liverpool fans, it's usually the fucking idiots on Twitter who have a footballer as their avatar, talk absolute shite, base all of their football knowledge from FIFA and have a vocab which predominantly consists of terms such as ‘bantz' and other such turgid diction) have genuinely pissed me off, due to the complete ignorance and idiocy of them. For the sake of my health, I'm not going to embark on another search of Tweets to show you examples, but just search ‘Bogdan' on Twitter, and you'll find them with little issue.
I don't have a particular issue with LFC fans saying they should have perhaps gone for a better goalkeeper, one who's played his football in a better league in recent years, that's a more than fair point. I'm sure signing a player who's leaving a lowly Championship club on a free is hardly inspiring. On the face of things, due to his injuries in the past season, it does appear as if Bogdan was second choice to Lonergan for the majority of the campaign, which of course is incorrect. It doesn't help when this false assertion is constantly spread like wild fire by big websites who should probably do a little bit more research before writing an article. Squwaka, I'm looking at you.
However, it's Liverpool supporters claiming that Bogdan isn't good enough for them that is really boiling my piss, because the fact of the matter is that he absolutely is.
If Boggers is to go to Anfield only to be the 2nd choice to Mignolet, which seems very likely, then he'll be the best reserve goalkeeper they've had for quite a while. Doni, Itange, Bogdan's fellow countryman Gulacsi (at least when he played for Liverpool) and especially Brad Jones all come nowhere near to the quality of Bogdan. I have seen a lot of more reasonable and clever Liverpool fans state this opinion, in fairness, but one tweet of that mind set really made me lose my shit. "Bogdan's just as good as Jones," it read. "Just as good". JUST AS GOOD?!? I'd rather have the statue of Nat Lofthouse in my goal over Brad fucking Jones, because at least the ball would hit the static mass of metal on occasion.
As a back up, Bogdan is an excellent piece of business by Liverpool as they've signed a strong, commanding, reliable goalkeeper who can make some of the most laws of physics defying saves imaginable. All for nothing!
Liverpool supporters are bemoaning Brendan's apparent lack of ambition with signing a Championship goalkeeper, but trust me when I say this Liverpool fans, he's actually done a great piece of business for once, as surprising as it may sound.
Bogdan's outstanding performance at Anfield wasn't an anomaly, that's the goalkeeper he is now. Come half way through next season, when Mignolet is on a dodgy patch of form and is consistently making errors that lead to you dropping points - you'll be happy to have him then. I promise you.[/article]
** must not bite **
*likes then unlikes Ryan's post*
Yay. Another bag of shite on our books.
Bernard Pascal Maurice Lama (French pronunciation: [bɛʁnaʁ laˈma]; born 7 April 1963) is a French football coach and former goalkeeper. He was born in the Indre-et-Loire département but grew up in French Guiana. He spent a number of years in goal for Lille and Paris Saint-Germain. He was also a member of the France national team that won the 1998 World Cup and the Euro 2000.
You might say quite the odd example, but anyway... 😉
I thought that was who he meant, but he didn't play for us. I'm assuming Oncy is getting mixed up with Arphexad...? And if he is...THATS RAYCESS!
I thought he was referring to Patrice Luzi.
This should be a Pointless category. 'Obscure Liverpool goalkeepers who rarely played and were fucking shit'
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