Adam Bogdan
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The cheap option. What a shock.
I don't know enough about him to comment..
But the thing that concerns me, he played less than a dozen games for Bolton this season..
Don't we need someone who can actually challenge Mingolet ??
But the thing that concerns me, he played less than a dozen games for Bolton this season..
Don't we need someone who can actually challenge Mingolet ??
He's 27 and has 121 club appearances. Either he's inured a lot or was shit for a long time.
It does seem that way, sometimes it has to be said..
Maybe our Transfer Warchest is more like an Asda bag for life. Cheap and cheerful.
Don't tell me Houllier bought Diomede as a keeper.
No wonder he was gash.
Itandje?
You'll soon give a fuck if Mignolet gets injured or completely loses his form like he did at the start of last season and all we've got as a replacement is Adam Bogdan.
The teams that finished above us and that we hope to compete against next season all have much better replacements so why don't we? Because the owners don't want to pay a good player decent wages if he might be sitting on his arse all season. Nevermind that we might actually need him.
The teams that finished above us and that we hope to compete against next season all have much better replacements so why don't we? Because the owners don't want to pay a good player decent wages if he might be sitting on his arse all season. Nevermind that we might actually need him.
Arsenal dont.
Citeh dont.
Man united didnt until February.
The only team with TWO quality keepers is Chelsea and they wont have in a few weeks.
Well in fairness if Pepe was sitting on his fat arse on 120k a week people would be up in arms.
It's a shit signing obviously but the care level is below 1% on this one.
They are wank and you know it.
I know nothing of the sort!
None of them would get a game at fucking Stoke.
Only because bergovic is a good keeper
Arsenal have Ospina and Szczesny
Tottenham have Lloris and Vorm
Man United have De Gea and Valdes
Man City have Hart and Caballero
Chelsea have Courtois and Cech
Cech and de Gea may well leave but do you seriously think them two clubs would contemplate Adam Bogdan as their number 2 goalkeeper. He probably wouldn't be good enough to be their number 3 goalkeeper.
It may not be the biggest transfer we make this summer but it seems very short sighted to me.
I haven't seen a great deal of Matt Ryan (who weve been linked with for months) but he looked like a player that could actually challenge Mignolet for the jersey and surely that's better than someone who's happy to play second fiddle.
Bogbrush may not be any kind of superstar but I'm not struck on the majority of those second-choice keepers. Cech is obv.better and Valdes probably is most of the time, but he can be pretty streaky himself and I'm far from convinced the rest are much (if any) better at all.
It makes more sense to use a youth keeper, a run of games on our bench will boost the reputation of Ward, cost nothing in wages, and we can then sell him for a million and move on to the next kid.
Just because you have a toilet, it's no justification to pay someone else for their shit to put into it. Just have a fucking seat and do it yourself. What the fuck.
Just because you have a toilet, it's no justification to pay someone else for their shit to put into it. Just have a fucking seat and do it yourself. What the fuck.
Ha.
Completely agree with the youth keeper thing though, a second keeper usually gets a few cup games a season if they're lucky, & imo most young keepers are as good as a more experienced keeper when thrown into games randomly or with no preparation anyway.
The ideal would be a near end of career top class keeper who wants an easy life & won't demand the earth in salary, but that's something you're unlikely to get unless challenging for trophies every season.
It's just throwing money away spending decent wages on a reserve keeper.
They'd probably be better since you can at least have the kid stay sharp by playing for the under 21's. Bogdan is going to stay sharp by sitting down and being drilled by Achterberg.
Ward was on the bench for the last part of the season. He's been through the coaching process - it's supposed to work, after all - he's been added to the first team squad, he's young, he's ambitious, so why not keep him as number two? What is the point of all these keepers coming through the system if they're never, ever, promoted to that position?
The argument against seems to be that the first choice keeper needs a top experienced keeper to 'challenge' him. But that hardly ever works anywhere, firstly because a keeper worthy of being first choice is highly unlikely to put up with being kept on the bench, and, secondly, because this 'challenging' doesn't, in reality, happen.
How is the second choice keeper going to put pressure on the first choice one simply by training with him and watching him from the bench whilst his own form rapidly becomes but a distant memory? Clubs never think this through.
If someone was to suggest buying a first class centre back, or central midfielder or striker, to 'put pressure' on a first choice player, and then keeping him on the bench, maybe not playing one minute of football for several seasons, or maybe just one or two run outs in the League Cup, people would quite rightly say it's a stupid idea. But for some crazy reason it's accepted largely without question because it's a goalkeeper.
There are only three reasons why a really good keeper is on the bench: a) like, Cech, he's been ousted, and is therefore only there until he can escape to a club that values him more; b) he is good but lacks ambition and is therefore not putting pressure on anyone; or c) he's not really that good any more because he's old and on the way out. So just show some sense and use the young keeper you'e supposed to be grooming for the job anyway!!
The argument against seems to be that the first choice keeper needs a top experienced keeper to 'challenge' him. But that hardly ever works anywhere, firstly because a keeper worthy of being first choice is highly unlikely to put up with being kept on the bench, and, secondly, because this 'challenging' doesn't, in reality, happen.
How is the second choice keeper going to put pressure on the first choice one simply by training with him and watching him from the bench whilst his own form rapidly becomes but a distant memory? Clubs never think this through.
If someone was to suggest buying a first class centre back, or central midfielder or striker, to 'put pressure' on a first choice player, and then keeping him on the bench, maybe not playing one minute of football for several seasons, or maybe just one or two run outs in the League Cup, people would quite rightly say it's a stupid idea. But for some crazy reason it's accepted largely without question because it's a goalkeeper.
There are only three reasons why a really good keeper is on the bench: a) like, Cech, he's been ousted, and is therefore only there until he can escape to a club that values him more; b) he is good but lacks ambition and is therefore not putting pressure on anyone; or c) he's not really that good any more because he's old and on the way out. So just show some sense and use the young keeper you'e supposed to be grooming for the job anyway!!
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