"A proper Brazilian"
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He reminds me of Maxi 🙂
For Suarez third goal he is making a run on the far side anticipating either a cross or a parry from the goalkeeper. I noticed that he does make those intelligent runs quite often.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/gif-luis-suarez-scores-his-hattrick-goal-v-wigan/
For Suarez third goal he is making a run on the far side anticipating either a cross or a parry from the goalkeeper. I noticed that he does make those intelligent runs quite often.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/gif-luis-suarez-scores-his-hattrick-goal-v-wigan/
I think I said quite clearly what I think ("In terms of vision and defense splitting passes Yossi is the one to compare." ... "However, Coutinho is younger and has more speed than Yossi had when he played for us").
I've seen Yossi playing quite a lot over the years (both for us as well as for other teams). I've only seen Coutinho for less that 90 minutes (couldn't watch yesterday's match so had to settle for the highlights).
I haven't see enough of Coutinho to make a verdict.
Looks like you've seen enough of him to make a verdict - that's great!
I really hope that you got it right and when we look back at his career at Anfield (12 years from now) and all the trophies he'd have led us too, we'll be able to laugh at my foolishness mentioning Coutinho and Yossi at the same breath, while it's clear that he's an improved version of Messi. I really do.
really excited about him.
You think too much. I am straining only to raise my expectations as high as possible, as in case he fails and is sold next season then I can take comfort that my own disappointment is insignificant compared to the cumulative disappointments of everyone else that I would have been partly responsible for.
When he signed for Utd my friends and I used to find it diverting to speculate that the unusual spelling of his first name implied a kind of yokel 'Jaaaarp' pronunciation. 'Another paasty please Jaap'
True story that.
Thanks. On here that's reassuring.
It usually feels very hard.* 😉
* The Steve McManaman of hilarious double-entendre jokes.
I'd say it was more the yossi of double entendre
I think it's quite fair to compare Coutinho with Yossi, there are obvious similarities although Coutinho does have more pace so he has potential to become a better player.
I think it's also interesting to compare Coutinho to his fellow Brazilians Kaka and Oscar. There are a lot of similarities there, not only in their game but also in their family backgrounds: relatively wealthy, religious, hard-working and humble. Coutinho is by far the shortest of this trio and I think a bit more suited to playing on the wing than the other 2.
So far I really liked his energy and application. At this stage he might not have enough stamina to do it for full 90 minutes, but for 60 or 70 minutes he was allotted in his first 2 starts, he ran his socks off. You can see he is really trying to impress the manager and the fans and show that he can handle the speed of the English game and the defensive responsibilities of European football.
His vision, intelligence, and technique are plain to see. I think the biggest potential hurdle he will need to overcome is the stamina issue - can he maintain the kind of energy level required in the Premiership over the course of the season, while remaining mentally sharp and avoiding injuries? If he can, I'm sure he is going to be up there with Mata, Silva and Cazorla as one of the PL's best playmakers, because he clearly has all the other attributes already at a comparable level. EDIT: Maybe only his shooting is still a level or two behind someone like Mata - but even if it is (and we need to see more of Coutinho to really judge that), he can still improve our attack by a lot.
A lot here depends on the club; they need to design a carefully thought-out training and nutrition program for Coutinho, maybe not quite up to the level of sophistication that Barca did for Messi, but with a similar idea. There is a huge difference in value between even an incredibly gifted playmaker who has to be subbed off after 70 minutes in every game and gets injured a lot (the Pablo Aimar type), and someone like Messi or Suarez who pretty much never needs rest. Coutinho is a good kid, I am sure he will give the maximum effort to any training program designed for him, it just has be the right one.
I think it's also interesting to compare Coutinho to his fellow Brazilians Kaka and Oscar. There are a lot of similarities there, not only in their game but also in their family backgrounds: relatively wealthy, religious, hard-working and humble. Coutinho is by far the shortest of this trio and I think a bit more suited to playing on the wing than the other 2.
So far I really liked his energy and application. At this stage he might not have enough stamina to do it for full 90 minutes, but for 60 or 70 minutes he was allotted in his first 2 starts, he ran his socks off. You can see he is really trying to impress the manager and the fans and show that he can handle the speed of the English game and the defensive responsibilities of European football.
His vision, intelligence, and technique are plain to see. I think the biggest potential hurdle he will need to overcome is the stamina issue - can he maintain the kind of energy level required in the Premiership over the course of the season, while remaining mentally sharp and avoiding injuries? If he can, I'm sure he is going to be up there with Mata, Silva and Cazorla as one of the PL's best playmakers, because he clearly has all the other attributes already at a comparable level. EDIT: Maybe only his shooting is still a level or two behind someone like Mata - but even if it is (and we need to see more of Coutinho to really judge that), he can still improve our attack by a lot.
A lot here depends on the club; they need to design a carefully thought-out training and nutrition program for Coutinho, maybe not quite up to the level of sophistication that Barca did for Messi, but with a similar idea. There is a huge difference in value between even an incredibly gifted playmaker who has to be subbed off after 70 minutes in every game and gets injured a lot (the Pablo Aimar type), and someone like Messi or Suarez who pretty much never needs rest. Coutinho is a good kid, I am sure he will give the maximum effort to any training program designed for him, it just has be the right one.
If it continues into the summer transfer window, we could actually be going places...
I was surprised that no one had mentioned this before.
I kept on thinking it should be a NSFW thread.
Young Phil has real end product at the age of 20, a goal and two wonderful assists in two games. The young McManaman was doing all sorts of tricks on the wing whilst the forwards were waiting for a ball into the box that would never arrive.
I think the Yossi point was about his ability to thread a pass, which is something many people said was his forte when we signed him (Coutinho), so that's not really like McManaman at all, he is skinny though.
I think we've got players who are more likely to be on the same wavelength as well.
For instance, take when we had Garcia - who was it in front of him? Baros? Cisse? Kuyt?
Of those only Dirk would be the type to make the intelligent kinds of runs that those instinctive and unpredictable passes might fall into the path of.
I think with the players we have now, that won't be an issue
For instance, take when we had Garcia - who was it in front of him? Baros? Cisse? Kuyt?
Of those only Dirk would be the type to make the intelligent kinds of runs that those instinctive and unpredictable passes might fall into the path of.
I think with the players we have now, that won't be an issue
It's looking good in terms of attacking ability, with strength in depth too. Maybe if Borini moves on then we'll go for another addition, but anyway, as it stands > Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho, Downing, Sterling is a pretty brilliant group of players vying for three positions.
I'm not fully convinced on Sterling yet Mark and Downing, albeit improved, is still rather average. The growth in attacking quality with the acquisitions of Sturridge and Coutinho really shows though. Now for that defence of ours.......fuck ! There's always something isn't there ?
Agreed, there's certainly room for improvement on that note, but there is depth there, something we haven't had in a long long time, not only do we have depth, but we have more than one genuine quality threat in attack. Downing has filled in well, he can be improved up though, but once upon a time we'd be shoehorning players in left right and centre to plug holes.
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