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What was the bet/winnings, if you don't mind me asking?
Before our last group game we were 33/1 to win the CL and I thought we had a serious chance so put 300 euro on.

Got laughed at very often at football training by Liverpool and Utd fans alike and got even more laughter at halftime in the final as I never layed it off
 
When I was growing up it was unusual if we didn't win the league. Not winning a trophy in 1985 was plain weird.
We will win the league when we have the money to spend that the two cheats that have ruined english football have had. If we could buy and pay Agueros and Yaya Toures and Ballacks etc we would have won it years a go. Sadly we attract players a tier below them. So it's always a case of trying to find a Torres or a Suarez and hoping they come good, rather than be able to attract the best players. Hopefully having a decent, well-respected manager with some pedigree and success will change that.
We have to believe it will happen.
We won it 11 times in my first 21 years on earth, not won it since. Painful.
 
Not until we get a bigger stadium or the owners spend a lot of their own money. It is still all about money if you want to win the league. 54k won't be enough. Klopp is a fantastic manager but in Germany he only had one mega rich opponent, Bayern.

We need to be able to sign £50m players and pay them sky high wages. We need to be able to keep players like Sterling and Suarez. We must be their number one choice.
 
It is a bigger chance that we win the CL for the sixth time before we win the league again.
 
The bookies wouldn't agree, & neither do I.

Whilst they're both long shots, the CL win is a more remote possibility than us overturning a 7 point lead over arsenal & Leicester plummeting. Especially given we have a very kind (on paper) fixture list now.
 
The bookies wouldn't agree, & neither do I.

Whilst they're both long shots, the CL win is a more remote possibility than us overturning a 7 point lead over arsenal & Leicester plummeting. Especially given we have a very kind (on paper) fixture list now.

As kind as Newcastle away?
 
The bookies wouldn't agree, & neither do I.

Whilst they're both long shots, the CL win is a more remote possibility than us overturning a 7 point lead over arsenal & Leicester plummeting. Especially given we have a very kind (on paper) fixture list now.
Yep Palace at home and Newcastle away 6 pt banker 😢
 
If FFP had existed then we would have had a fair chance. Both Chelsea and Man C will most probably have a new manager before the start of next season and spend a fortune on new players. Both of them can easily spend £300m+ on new players and pay sky high wages.

Finding a new Suarez is our only realistic hope. We have the right manager without any doubt at all but it is big difference finishing in second, third or fourth than winning the league. Klopp had his Suarez at Dortmund, Lewandowski.

Even Klopp won't be able to win the league without at least one of the best players in the world.
 
That's over-pessimistic. Klopp at Dortmund was working under very similar conditions to those which apply to LFC - a good side but, when he went there, one which was not yet at top level and had to compete with at least one better funded rival. One of the results of that set of conditions was that he regularly had to cope with losing his best player(s) and find their replacements. He still won the league and got to CL finals then, so he can do it again.
 
That's over-pessimistic. Klopp at Dortmund was working under very similar conditions to those which apply to LFC - a good side but, when he went there, one which was not yet at top level and had to compete with at least one better funded rival. One of the results of that set of conditions was that he regularly had to cope with losing his best player(s) and find their replacements. He still won the league and got to CL finals then, so he can do it again.

You only have to beat one side to win the Bundesliga, really. So if Bayern have a bad season, you can do it. The Premiership has been won by United, Chelsea and City over the last 10 years, with Arsenal always close, so it's not going to be quite as "easy".
 
That's over-pessimistic. Klopp at Dortmund was working under very similar conditions to those which apply to LFC - a good side but, when he went there, one which was not yet at top level and had to compete with at least one better funded rival. One of the results of that set of conditions was that he regularly had to cope with losing his best player(s) and find their replacements. He still won the league and got to CL finals then, so he can do it again.

It wasn't Klopp who found players like Lewandowski and Gundogan. It was Zorc and his excellent scouting network. Klopp made them much better players but he didn't find them.
 
It wasn't Klopp who found players like Lewandowski and Gundogan. It was Zorc and his excellent scouting network. Klopp made them much better players but he didn't find them.

What manager does find and scout his own players?
 
You know what I mean. Klopp now have a new scouting network, one that hasn't delivered so far. We need to sign someone like Zorc.

Yes but I keep reading people claiming that Klopp is so good, he can turn our current squad into title challengers, and how he'd "transformed" players like Lucas, Firmino and Lallana.

Whereas I'm pretty certain he can't, and we need at least four or five new players.
 
Well, Lallana, Moreno and Lovren look much better and more comfortable now.
Klopp loves Firmino. The lad is quality, so if we give him a bit more time (shocking I know) - he'll be ace.
 
Well, Lallana, Moreno and Lovren look much better and more comfortable now.
Klopp loves Firmino. The lad is quality, so if we give him a bit more time (shocking I know) - he'll be ace.

Yes, I always liked Moreno anyway, so that's good to see, and Lovren has certainly looked better than he did last season. Which isn't hard. And yes, Lallana has played better too, although he's not actually scored a singlePremiership goal yet, which is desperately poor for an attacking player.

Firmino is yet to show any quality, one match aside. Very disappointing indeed.
 
Well, it looks like it will take longer to attain what we all desire, after the debacle at Newcastle.
 
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