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Oncy

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Aston Villa have lost 6.
Spurs have lost 8.
Manchester United 8.
Chelsea have lost 7.
Arsenal have lost 8.
Manchester City have lost 6.
Everton have lost 14.
Fulham have lost 13.
Birmingham have lost 11.
Stoke have lost 11.
Blackburn have lost 14.
Sunderland have lost 14.
West Ham have lost 15.
Liverpool have lost 15.
 
It's absolutely pathetic. Our tactical genius has got to go.

The players quite clearly don't want to play for him. Well the ones that matter don't want to. When that happens it only points to one conclusion.

One of the myriad of reasons why he shouldn't be here anymore.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39255.msg1068013#msg1068013 date=1268347787]
Yay. Top of the league.

[size=7pt]Alphabetically[/size]
[/quote]To be fair Wigan, Hull, Burnley, Portsmouth and Wolves have lost more than us. Ironically we've dropped points against most of those. I say ironically I mean shamefully.
 
If they don't want to play for him they shouldn't be paid. Not saying it's not his fault, but the players are all being shit twats too.
 
As sad as i'll be when Rafa goes, will anyone else be quite excited with a new manager in charge
- new ideas, approach and what have ye??

I will be anyway.
 
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=39255.msg1068021#msg1068021 date=1268348155]
I reckon we can hit 20 no problem. Easily.
[/quote]15 so far. Chelsea and the Mancs of course are near certs. Away at Burnley and the obvious demise in the crappy who gives a fuck cup. Yep 20 could be on.
 
[quote author=thelurker link=topic=39255.msg1068032#msg1068032 date=1268348593]
how many losses in the league though?
[/quote]

9

So it's not all that bad
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39255.msg1068039#msg1068039 date=1268348727]
What's the most we've lost in the league since we got promoted again? A souness season I guess?
[/quote]

To be fair, Souey's were all deserved. Rafa's have just all been unlucky.
 
[quote author=thelurker link=topic=39255.msg1068032#msg1068032 date=1268348593]
how many losses in the league though?
[/quote]What difference does that make? Rafas reputation we are told is on his tactical prowess in cup competitions, specifically in Europe. So why would you dismiss those games when assessing what a fuck up he's made of this season?
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39255.msg1068016#msg1068016 date=1268348057]
If they don't want to play for him they shouldn't be paid. Not saying it's not his fault, but the players are all being shit twats too.
[/quote]

Yeah true, but it comes down to his ability or lack of to motivate the players. Obviously it's got to be a two way street but who wouldn't get fed up with Benitez and his tactics/selections etc etc.

I know who I'd rather ship out and not pay between Gerrard, Carragher etc and Benitez.
 
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=39255.msg1068047#msg1068047 date=1268348992]
Can this season get any worse? Surely we have turned the corner zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
[/quote]

We've turned more corners than a 3 wheeled shopping trolley going round Brands Hatch.
 
Souness lost 15 in his first year. That's gonna be tough to beat. Tough but not unacheivable.
Uncle Roy 14 in his last season. Thatsmore than doable.
Houllier 10 in his last season. We MUST beat that.
Rafa rafaelllllll
 
Out of those 14 teams Oncy, only 5 of them are above us in the League, and only 5 are still in European competition.

We've had more games to lose than the likes of Blackburn, Sunderland, Everton, Stoke because of European commitments, and we're above them in the League - so what's the point?
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39255.msg1068050#msg1068050 date=1268349099]

Uncle Roy 14 in his last season. Thatsmore than doable.

[/quote]

I thought you'd gone all Allo Allo then. I was like scratching me head thinkin we've already let in more than half of 14.
 
Yeah, we're having a great season!

I really hope that every single shit player we have stays long enough to ensure that Benitez's master plan come to fruition!

YNWA!
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39255.msg1068051#msg1068051 date=1268349142]
Out of those 14 teams Oncy, only 5 of them are above us in the League, and only 5 are still in European competition.

We've had more games to lose than the likes of Blackburn, Sunderland, Everton, Stoke because of European commitments, and we're above them in the League - so what's the point?
[/quote]Haha dear me.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39255.msg1068055#msg1068055 date=1268349266]
Yeah, we're having a great season!

I really hope that every single shit player we have stays long enough to ensure that Benitez's master plan come to fruition!

YNWA!
[/quote]We have to keep believing Bren. If we reach for the stars who knows, we could maybe......just maybe lose 16.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39255.msg1068059#msg1068059 date=1268349346]
Shame we weren't in the super cup and world club championship etc to help us reach the 20 mark
[/quote]We could count friendlies! Didn't we lose all of them?
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39255.msg1068057#msg1068057 date=1268349288]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39255.msg1068051#msg1068051 date=1268349142]
Out of those 14 teams Oncy, only 5 of them are above us in the League, and only 5 are still in European competition.

We've had more games to lose than the likes of Blackburn, Sunderland, Everton, Stoke because of European commitments, and we're above them in the League - so what's the point?
[/quote]Haha dear me.
[/quote]

Ryan, I know you're looking at things in a more analytical light, and normally it's a healthy addition to look at things that way and it's a nice change to the usual doom and gloom, but.... you can't argue with those facts. Plus the fact that we've lost the majority of the games against teams below us kinda strengthens Oncy's point.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=39255.msg1068066#msg1068066 date=1268349649]
Ha, I can't remember us winning a friendly...
[/quote]

We didn't. Might have scrapped a nil all or two though
 
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