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I hope you're right, but I'm concerned. Pato's injuries are behind him and he's here for financial reasons only - he's chasing Prem wages and his club need to get him off their wage bill. We could have done worse.

Chelsea aren't a threat to us, really. They certainly won't make the top four while we have an outside chance.

I personally can't see Pato settling all that quickly. I maybe wrong but, ultimately, I don't think it particularly matters if he does anyway. Maybe they'll knock us out of a EL spot if he hits the ground running. *crosses fingers*

Unless you mean the job he could have done for us. Then, yes, I hope we don't regret chasing what could turn out to be a pipedream instead.
 
Leicester have had a bid for Remy turned down. Surely a partner for Vardy not a replacement. Not sure why Remy wouldn want to go there and sit on their bench though.
 
I hope you're right, but I'm concerned. Pato's injuries are behind him and he's here for financial reasons only - he's chasing Prem wages and his club need to get him off their wage bill. We could have done worse.
They are paying him less than they are paying Victor Moses....to play for West Ham.
 
I'm not surprised given his history. He (and they to some extent) are gambling that he'll do well enough to earn a new deal, and I'm worried he might.
 
That and the rapid improvement he might help them to make. They're bound to get back among the big boys but I'd rather they took their time about it.
 
Strange that now Chelsea have signed Pato on loan for 6 months he' suddenly good enough for the PL.
I have my doubts but the deal Chelsea have got is a good one in terms of seeing how he'll do.
Wheter or not he can step up from the Brazilian league is the question.
 
I imagine they'll be back next season; their players are too good - and they spend too much - not to be. I have no idea what's gone on this season, though.
 
That and the rapid improvement he might help them to make. They're bound to get back among the big boys but I'd rather they took their time about it.
And its a no risk deal, right? They have a fee agreed and will pull the trigger if hes a success, but if hes not, who is going to complain about benching a relatively low earner on a loan deal, and then sending him home?
 
And its a no risk deal, right? They have a fee agreed and will pull the trigger if hes a success, but if hes not, who is going to complain about benching a relatively low earner on a loan deal, and then sending him home?

It's lose/lose. If he fails, they've wasted time and money, while if he succeeds he fires them into the EL.

Terrible deal.
 
And its a no risk deal, right? They have a fee agreed and will pull the trigger if hes a success, but if hes not, who is going to complain about benching a relatively low earner on a loan deal, and then sending him home?

Chelsea fans will if Costa gets injured again. Which isn't beyond the realms of imagination. I wouldn't want him here, especially with the current striking situation we have.
 
Chelsea fans will if Costa gets injured again. Which isn't beyond the realms of imagination. I wouldn't want him here, especially with the current striking situation we have.
You wouldn't want to have the option of a very cheap potentially high quality PL player, who represents literally no risk as a loan signing?
 
You wouldn't want to have the option of a very cheap potentially high quality PL player, who represents literally no risk as a loan signing?

Of course I would. But my argument is Pato isn't that. I don't think he's potentially high quality and he is injury prone. He's pretty far from a guaranteed goalscorer and considering Costa's injury record and Chelsea's league position I'd want someone to come in who had a recent track record of scoring a lot of goals. Same for Liverpool; we've got Ings out injured, Sturridge perma-crocked and Benteke unable to fit into the team. So I'd want someone with much more of a guaranteed contribution.
 
Of course I would. But my argument is Pato isn't that. I don't think he's potentially high quality and he is injury prone. He's pretty far from a guaranteed goalscorer and considering Costa's injury record and Chelsea's league position I'd want someone to come in who had a recent track record of scoring a lot of goals. Same for Liverpool; we've got Ings out injured, Sturridge perma-crocked and Benteke unable to fit into the team. So I'd want someone with much more of a guaranteed contribution.

Fair argument.

*Whispers* - as an aside, Im not sure Teixeira gives you that either, and hes going to cost 35m+
 
He's clearly shit hot given he's been on a downward spiral for the past 5 years and his only opportunity for a reprisal is a fucking loan deal to a club way under achieving and in desperate need for a spark to their season
 
I'm not so sure. Pato did have a bad history of injuries in recent seasons but is reliably reported (by S.American football expert Tim Vickery among others) to be over them now, and there's a fair bit of evidence of what he can do earlier in this thread. The Chavs themselves have suffered from one or two injury-prone signings lately, up front in particular, and I can't see them going for Pato if they thought he was still a significant injury risk.
 
He's clearly shit hot given he's been on a downward spiral for the past 5 years and his only opportunity for a reprisal is a fucking loan deal to a club way under achieving and in desperate need for a spark to their season

That's a big ouch
 
I'm far from convinced by Chelsea's recent transfer policy. They used to sign the hottest players in their early 20's like Robben, Hazard, Cech, Drogba, David Luiz, Oscar, Courtois, Diego Costa – that investment was the basis of their success under Mourinho and thereafter. They bought smart and young and laid solid foundations for success for many years to come – something I can't say even about Man City or PSG. But from a certain point their strategy started resembling AC Milan post-Berlusconi, betting on trying to rehabilitate careers of various crocks and misfits, like Falcao, Remi, now Pato. More and more, they are going for name recognition at bargain prices rather than attracting stars of tomorrow. Even Fabregas, for all his undeniable class, kind of fits with the latter strategy rather than the former. Same for Pedro. They tried hard to buy the aging Rooney; now there is talk of them bringing Van Persie back to the EPL. At this rate, we should offer them Balotelli and see if they bite.

I am starting to think there is a vigorous cost-cutting program that has already been underway for some time at Chelsea and that's why Mourinho had to make do with such a small squad. As part of this restructuring, they parted ways with several quality players who were not essential in the short term, but later could have formed the core of their next generation of stars: De Bruyne, Cuadrado, Sturridge, Lukaku, Schurrle and others. (Don't tell me Cuadrado looked bad, he is still one of the best wingers in the game, but they shipped him back without giving him the second look as he was trying to adapt) Chelsea slide into obscurity this season could well be a symptom of something bigger going wrong with the club. They are not going to return back to top 4 anytime soon if they keep going on the same path.

BTW I just read that they are considering Mark Hughes as their next manager.
 
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I'm not so sure. Pato did have a bad history of injuries in recent seasons but is reliably reported (by S.American football expert Tim Vickery among others) to be over them now, and there's a fair bit of evidence of what he can do earlier in this thread. The Chavs themselves have suffered from one or two injury-prone signings lately, up front in particular, and I can't see them going for Pato if they thought he was still a significant injury risk.
Is he really over them or is it just because he's been playing in a very slow non contact league for the last few years? If his body couldn't handle serie A then he's fucked for the premier league. Doesn't look half the player he used to be either.
 
Watford had a bid for Sinclair rejected. Apparently we want £3million for him. It's good we are trying to make clubs pay over the odds for our players for once.
 
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