Virgiling on the vandijkulous
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Point is it's pretty likely there won't now a bid from elsewhere. City dropped their interest in van Dijk early on because of (a) his price and (b) his insistence on coming to us. Chelsea's interest was sustained for longer, but they've now bought Rüdiger. It's not, to use Windom Earle's word, "outlandish" exactly to anticipate the kind of scenario you and he have described, but I suggest the evidence is against you both on this.
You've been so overly confident about this but I just don't share that view.
If you were a player (and bare in mind with a weaker, thicker mentality) and only had what seemed like two choices within only 1.5 weeks to make: stay at a club where you will now be hated by supporters, or go to a cash rich club that will pay you triple what you've been earning (and are always in the champions league and fighting for domestic league), I'm not sure you'd stick around for option 3 that might never come. You have to secure your future and City or Chelsea aren't bad ones.
In theory that's fair enough, but IMO in practice it overestimates (or doesn't even factor in) the likelihood, or lack of it, that there'll be bids from Chelsea or City at all. I've explained above why I see the possibility of such bids as being pretty remote.
Just to be clear, I'm not saying van Dijk will definitely come to us. What I'm saying is that a move to either of those other clubs (the only others being mentioned) looks a long way off as things currently stand, that this puts Southampton right on the spot if they don't want to lose a VERY large amount of money, and that ultimately it's money that will talk in the loudest voice, IMO of course.
Just to be clear, I'm not saying van Dijk will definitely come to us. What I'm saying is that a move to either of those other clubs (the only others being mentioned) looks a long way off as things currently stand, that this puts Southampton right on the spot if they don't want to lose a VERY large amount of money, and that ultimately it's money that will talk in the loudest voice, IMO of course.
I don't know where this situation is going but I'd put it out there that
- 70M for this cunt is madness, irrespective of the market. Given the way we operate, I'd question how much benefit we'd see anyway.
- That he wants to come to us, and only us, is delusional.
It really isn't. If it had been, he'd be a Chelsea player already.
Maybe even they don't think he's worth 70M.
I hope you're right JJ.
You are right, City did seemingly lose interest at the price - but we don't know what the price was or whether the price will come down after all his agitating.
Regardless, swap City or Chelsea for any champions league club and Virgil will be off in a shot; he's made it clear he wants out and he wants to leave for a "top club". Our only hope is Southampton giving us the nod, otherwise player power fails again (and rightly so).
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But chelsea are nowhere near as desperate as we are for a good CB.
If we are 100% sure that he's the best CB in world football and will improve us immeasurably, then 70M is OK. If not, then, erm....
He doesn't have to be the best CB in the world, but he does have to be able to improve us immeasurably. He looks a good CB but whether he would improve us immeasurably i have no idea. Klopp seems pretty sold on him.
Well then he's not worth it, there's plenty of other CBs who could improve us who wouldn't cost 70m.
Yeah, Lindelof and Rudiger.
Or any combo of :
Bonucci
Keane
Maguire
Sule
Brooks
Martinez
Benatia
Ake
Mussachio
And many, many more.
This is going to me like the Will.I.an thread isn't it. Prick teased all transfer window with the idea only for Chelsea to seal the deal
Yep. And Salah. Its got City or Chelsea written all over it.
He's the only one in world football that would improve our fantastic array of defensive talent.
Bonucci was only available to Italian teams, for personal reasons.
[article]Saints chairman Ralph Krueger has reiterated that Virgil van Dijk is not for sale and insists he will be welcomed back with “open arms” when he accepts the club’s decision.
The Dutch centre half is continuing to push for a move away from St Mary’s, having not backed down after issuing a request last week.
Saints have remained steadfast in their approach to van Dijk, and while the Daily Echo understands they are trailing Lazio defender Wesley Hoedt among others, it is as an addition to the squad rather than a replacement for their want away 26-year-old.
Krueger said: “Our stance remains based on our strategy from May when we spoke last.
“I already told you the numbers that we have transferred in and transferred out and it is time to stop that.
“We really thought this was a good summer for that. Strength of the contracts, age of the group and the experiences of last year like going to a cup final gave us the feeling this is a group that tasted that winning and keeping them together would give us the chance to reach another level.
“Virgil is not the only player that is involved in this he is part of the whole strategy of not selling. Nobody is for sale that we don't want to sell and so he is not for sale in this window. We have said it more than once.
“We are not done with the window yet. We are still looking at some options. I am not going to promise anything. It has got to be something that truly strengthens the squad and fits into our group.
“We are still looking and at the end of the transfer window we will see who we have and what we have.
“Mauricio has done an amazing job of dealing with this situation. It has not disrupted our team. It is not in any way caused a lack of focus in training, in the locker room, and of course everybody will open their arms when Virgil comes back and we go at it.”
Krueger was asked whether Saints would even turn down a ludicrous offer if one came in and replied: “I will tell you one thing - over the years we have spoken I don't give definite answers where there isn't a definite.
“With all the knowledge I have today and all the information I have on my plate right now my answer is we are carrying our strategy through the summer and that's it. “[/article]
And this summer goes from worse to.....what's after worse?
Dont know how you see it as worse seeing as how we all knew this aaaaaaaggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss ago.
Gash?
Read what he said carefully, so not a definitive statement at all then :
Krueger was asked whether Saints would even turn down a ludicrous offer if one came in and replied: “I will tell you one thing - over the years we have spoken I don't give definite answers where there isn't a definite.
“With all the knowledge I have today and all the information I have on my plate right now my answer is we are carrying our strategy through the summer and that's it. “
Krueger was asked whether Saints would even turn down a ludicrous offer if one came in and replied: “I will tell you one thing - over the years we have spoken I don't give definite answers where there isn't a definite.
“With all the knowledge I have today and all the information I have on my plate right now my answer is we are carrying our strategy through the summer and that's it. “
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