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Van Persie's interview last night

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And the one pass is kickoff

A thing of beauty that is.
 
more good news


David Moyes's position as Manchester United manager remains secure despite the dismal 2-0 defeat by Olympiakos in the Champions League on Tuesday evening.
In a season of disappointing results during the Scot's inaugural campaign in charge, the manner of the loss against the Greek champions at the Karaiskakis Stadium, in which they managed only a single shot on target, was a new low for United.
The display leaves the champions needing to win the last-16 second leg by three goals at Old Trafford on 19 March to avoid being knocked out by the Olympiakos, who are considered a continental minnow.
Yet despite this – and a league position that has United 11 points from Liverpool in the fourth and final Champions League berth – Moyes retains the full support of the club.
Before the second leg United travel to West Bromwich Albion on 8 March ahead of the visit of Liverpool to Old Trafford, meaning Moyes's team could be an even greater number of points from fourth place by the time they face Brendan Rogers' side.
 
I think Stevie G hit the nail on the head when he said this into the fucking prong's face when we beat them at Anfield. Wanker, fuck off, wanker, fucking wanker. Or words to that effect. Spot on from our captain there.
 
When Wenger made him skipper at the Arse he seemed to take to it well and grow in the job. Guess that was only skin-deep.
 
Carragher:
[article=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2570456/JAMIE-CARRAGHER-United-team-old-men-coming-end-Moyes-stuck-them.html#ixzz2uiDWcoaI ]Watching United labour against Olympiacos brought back memories of the situation Roy Hodgson experienced in his brief stay at Liverpool in 2010; the shock home defeats, the unexpected cup exits and certain players letting the manager down badly.

The way Robin van Persie, for instance, is playing reminds me of the way Fernando Torres was with Hodgson. His goal record might be good, as was Torres’ for Hodgson, but the quotes that he has made and the stories surrounding him make it feel like Van Persie isn’t behind Moyes.

He didn’t miss a game last season in the Barclays Premier League but this year he has been in and out – is he thinking about the World Cup? – while his demeanour has served only to increase the perception there are problems. Torres did exactly the same.

If a manager loses his players, there is often no way back and an issue Moyes has to contend with at the moment is the fact he is the focus of the criticism; United’s players will know this and can hide behind that, rather than looking at their own shortcomings. Again, that happened with Hodgson.[/article]
 
Thing is, though, Moyes deserves to be in the firing-line as much as he is. The shortcomings of his players aren't any different from last season. The buck has to stop with the manager anyway, but in this case that's fully justified.
 
Thing is, though, Moyes deserves to be in the firing-line as much as he is. The shortcomings of his players aren't any different from last season. The buck has to stop with the manager anyway, but in this case that's fully justified.


True.

You could argue that he's not had much of a chance with the players behaving the way they are but then part of the job description is to get the players onside.
 
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