do we have 70-90 million!?
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do we have 70-90 million!?
Had one very good game vs us league cup, a one great game (MOTM for me) in our 1-0 lose to Leicester....
I like him. Some here will say that he has had only a couple for good games. I say that he as shown that he can play at a high level. The thing is can Klopp bring him to that level on a consistant basis.
In June we will.
Agree, we need more grit and attacking abilities.
And Fabs should always play when not injured, and we should sign starters for the two lateral midfield positions rather.
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So he speaks perfect Spanish.
Maybe so, I haven't seen that lad play.
One thing though, with Tielemans, we know he can perform in the PL.
They are ambiguous enough for us to argue he is home grown due to being in Birminghams youth teams.
Do we have to change our name to Birmingham then and move the stadium over?
We’ve spent our summer money unfortunately, unless the lads can chip in.
Even if we had, he’s not worth that. Folks can hype him all they want but he’s no van Dijk or Becker to plug a glaring hole.
I know we probably don't have the cash, but I'd really like us to go after Declan Rice...I really think he would be the perfect Jordan Henderson replacement, as sadly I think he's coming to the end of career in a Klopp style of play...hope I'm wrong, but he tends to getting injured quite often nowadays
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I think he would be great Hendo replacement football wise and has really come on but problem is he’s an ex Chelsea player and his idol is John Terry.
Can’t see it Klopp doing it even if we could afford him, to replace a much respected and all around nice guy with a clown.
McGinn isn’t home grown though.
Not really transfer gossip but a good article nonetheless,
Liverpool make millions as £500m gap emerges between rivals
Liverpool have been smart in the transfer market in recent seasons with a £98m profit
Liverpool's Jurgen Klopp, John Henry and Michael Edwards
Liverpool's transfer strategy in recent years has been both lauded and criticised.
For some their approach to recruitment through seeking value where others may have missed it thanks to statistical analysis is something that should be applauded at a time when heavy spend and strategy don't always go hand in hand.
For others it has been seen a sign of a perceived lack of ambition and investment into the club to the playing side of the club by owners Fenway Sports Group, something that threatens to leave them trailing the likes of Manchester City and Chelsea in the future.
Ultimately, the health of Liverpool as a football club on the pitch has been underpinned greatly by the health off it, and with the Reds one of only two Premier League clubs to have recorded an economic profit over the last five years - the other being Burnley - success has been delivered through the very clear FSG strategy, one that sees the Reds as one of very few top clubs that truly spend within their means.
A key aspect of that has been the success that the Reds have enjoyed through player recruitment and ensuring that money spent on players is done in a way doesn't see money head out of the door and fail to return in any meaningful way.
Figures presented by football finance expert Swiss Ramble have broken down outgoings of players over the past five years against what was paid to acquire their services in the first place.
Of those who have left the club in the last five years, a total of £234.1m was spent on their acquisitions, while the profit that has been returned on their sales comes in at £321.3m, with the profit coming out at £98.4m
Of course, much of that profit comes from the 2018 sale of Phillipe Coutinho to Barcelona for £142m, the Brazilian having initially signed for the Reds for £11.7m from Inter Milan in January of 2013. In the five years he was a Liverpool player he thrived and when he left Anfield the profit that was returned was £109.8m. The funds brought in from his sale allowed for the transformational signings of Virgil van Dijk and Alisson Becker.
** Other big player profits came from academy product Rhian Brewster's £23.4m move to Sheffield United in 2020; Dominic Solanke's £19.1m switch to Bournemouth during the 2018/19 campaign; Harry Wilson's switch to Fulham last summer (£17.2m profit thanks to transfer fee and previous loan fees); Danny Ings' switch to Southampton in 2019 (£15.1m profit); Danny Ward's move to Leicester City (£12.5m profit); and Mamadou Sakho's switch to Crystal Palace (£10.4m profit).
Other players to have turned significant profits for Liverpool upon their departure have been Ki-Jana Hoever, Marko Grujic, Taiwon Awoniyi, Ryan Kent, Rafa Camacho, Kevin Stewart, Andre Wisdom, Ovie Ejaria, Kamil Grabara, Allan, Liam Millar and Herbie Kane.
Of the 37 players to have left the club in the last five years, 12 of them have been at a loss. That combined loss has come in at £159.5m. Much of that has been made up of players who have left the club on free transfers at the end of their contract, including Adam Lallana, Nathaniel Clyne, Lazar Markovic, Alberto Moreno, Emre Can and Gini Wijnaldum.
In contrast with some of their rivals, Chelsea's player trading during the same period has seen them make £198.6m profit on players, while Tottenham Hotspur made a loss of £51m; Manchester City made a loss of £131.8m; Arsenal a loss of £163m and Manchester United £192m.
Manchester City have won trophies through their losses on player spend, and their owners and fans would likely argue that has been a price worth paying.
But while Liverpool and Chelsea have both achieved silverware in the past five years, both of them getting their hands on a Champions League crown and Premier League title, Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur have little to show for their heavy losses when it comes to player trading. The gap between the trio and Liverpool standing at £504.4m.
** ^^ - That part is fucking nuts!.......
Liverpool make millions as £500m gap emerges between rivals
Liverpool have been smart in the transfer market in recent seasons with a £98m profit
Liverpool's Jurgen Klopp, John Henry and Michael Edwards
Liverpool's transfer strategy in recent years has been both lauded and criticised.
For some their approach to recruitment through seeking value where others may have missed it thanks to statistical analysis is something that should be applauded at a time when heavy spend and strategy don't always go hand in hand.
For others it has been seen a sign of a perceived lack of ambition and investment into the club to the playing side of the club by owners Fenway Sports Group, something that threatens to leave them trailing the likes of Manchester City and Chelsea in the future.
Ultimately, the health of Liverpool as a football club on the pitch has been underpinned greatly by the health off it, and with the Reds one of only two Premier League clubs to have recorded an economic profit over the last five years - the other being Burnley - success has been delivered through the very clear FSG strategy, one that sees the Reds as one of very few top clubs that truly spend within their means.
A key aspect of that has been the success that the Reds have enjoyed through player recruitment and ensuring that money spent on players is done in a way doesn't see money head out of the door and fail to return in any meaningful way.
Figures presented by football finance expert Swiss Ramble have broken down outgoings of players over the past five years against what was paid to acquire their services in the first place.
Of those who have left the club in the last five years, a total of £234.1m was spent on their acquisitions, while the profit that has been returned on their sales comes in at £321.3m, with the profit coming out at £98.4m
Of course, much of that profit comes from the 2018 sale of Phillipe Coutinho to Barcelona for £142m, the Brazilian having initially signed for the Reds for £11.7m from Inter Milan in January of 2013. In the five years he was a Liverpool player he thrived and when he left Anfield the profit that was returned was £109.8m. The funds brought in from his sale allowed for the transformational signings of Virgil van Dijk and Alisson Becker.
** Other big player profits came from academy product Rhian Brewster's £23.4m move to Sheffield United in 2020; Dominic Solanke's £19.1m switch to Bournemouth during the 2018/19 campaign; Harry Wilson's switch to Fulham last summer (£17.2m profit thanks to transfer fee and previous loan fees); Danny Ings' switch to Southampton in 2019 (£15.1m profit); Danny Ward's move to Leicester City (£12.5m profit); and Mamadou Sakho's switch to Crystal Palace (£10.4m profit).
Other players to have turned significant profits for Liverpool upon their departure have been Ki-Jana Hoever, Marko Grujic, Taiwon Awoniyi, Ryan Kent, Rafa Camacho, Kevin Stewart, Andre Wisdom, Ovie Ejaria, Kamil Grabara, Allan, Liam Millar and Herbie Kane.
Of the 37 players to have left the club in the last five years, 12 of them have been at a loss. That combined loss has come in at £159.5m. Much of that has been made up of players who have left the club on free transfers at the end of their contract, including Adam Lallana, Nathaniel Clyne, Lazar Markovic, Alberto Moreno, Emre Can and Gini Wijnaldum.
In contrast with some of their rivals, Chelsea's player trading during the same period has seen them make £198.6m profit on players, while Tottenham Hotspur made a loss of £51m; Manchester City made a loss of £131.8m; Arsenal a loss of £163m and Manchester United £192m.
Manchester City have won trophies through their losses on player spend, and their owners and fans would likely argue that has been a price worth paying.
But while Liverpool and Chelsea have both achieved silverware in the past five years, both of them getting their hands on a Champions League crown and Premier League title, Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur have little to show for their heavy losses when it comes to player trading. The gap between the trio and Liverpool standing at £504.4m.
** ^^ - That part is fucking nuts!.......
It’s also the reason why I’ve decided to pursue a micromasters course in data science, and potentially change career.
Funny
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Tottenham could beat Barcelona to the signature of AC Milan's 25-year-old Ivory Coast midfielder Franck Kessie. (Sport - in Spanish)
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Tottenham could beat Barcelona to the signature of AC Milan's 25-year-old Ivory Coast midfielder Franck Kessie. (Sport - in Spanish)
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I’m thinking of going the same. Teaching myself R and python which is good fun.
The fact is most of the profit has been eaten up by agent fees and other feesNot really transfer gossip but a good article nonetheless,
Liverpool make millions as £500m gap emerges between rivals
Liverpool have been smart in the transfer market in recent seasons with a £98m profit
Liverpool's Jurgen Klopp, John Henry and Michael Edwards
Liverpool's transfer strategy in recent years has been both lauded and criticised.
For some their approach to recruitment through seeking value where others may have missed it thanks to statistical analysis is something that should be applauded at a time when heavy spend and strategy don't always go hand in hand.
For others it has been seen a sign of a perceived lack of ambition and investment into the club to the playing side of the club by owners Fenway Sports Group, something that threatens to leave them trailing the likes of Manchester City and Chelsea in the future.
Ultimately, the health of Liverpool as a football club on the pitch has been underpinned greatly by the health off it, and with the Reds one of only two Premier League clubs to have recorded an economic profit over the last five years - the other being Burnley - success has been delivered through the very clear FSG strategy, one that sees the Reds as one of very few top clubs that truly spend within their means.
A key aspect of that has been the success that the Reds have enjoyed through player recruitment and ensuring that money spent on players is done in a way doesn't see money head out of the door and fail to return in any meaningful way.
Figures presented by football finance expert Swiss Ramble have broken down outgoings of players over the past five years against what was paid to acquire their services in the first place.
Of those who have left the club in the last five years, a total of £234.1m was spent on their acquisitions, while the profit that has been returned on their sales comes in at £321.3m, with the profit coming out at £98.4m
Of course, much of that profit comes from the 2018 sale of Phillipe Coutinho to Barcelona for £142m, the Brazilian having initially signed for the Reds for £11.7m from Inter Milan in January of 2013. In the five years he was a Liverpool player he thrived and when he left Anfield the profit that was returned was £109.8m. The funds brought in from his sale allowed for the transformational signings of Virgil van Dijk and Alisson Becker.
** Other big player profits came from academy product Rhian Brewster's £23.4m move to Sheffield United in 2020; Dominic Solanke's £19.1m switch to Bournemouth during the 2018/19 campaign; Harry Wilson's switch to Fulham last summer (£17.2m profit thanks to transfer fee and previous loan fees); Danny Ings' switch to Southampton in 2019 (£15.1m profit); Danny Ward's move to Leicester City (£12.5m profit); and Mamadou Sakho's switch to Crystal Palace (£10.4m profit).
Other players to have turned significant profits for Liverpool upon their departure have been Ki-Jana Hoever, Marko Grujic, Taiwon Awoniyi, Ryan Kent, Rafa Camacho, Kevin Stewart, Andre Wisdom, Ovie Ejaria, Kamil Grabara, Allan, Liam Millar and Herbie Kane.
Of the 37 players to have left the club in the last five years, 12 of them have been at a loss. That combined loss has come in at £159.5m. Much of that has been made up of players who have left the club on free transfers at the end of their contract, including Adam Lallana, Nathaniel Clyne, Lazar Markovic, Alberto Moreno, Emre Can and Gini Wijnaldum.
In contrast with some of their rivals, Chelsea's player trading during the same period has seen them make £198.6m profit on players, while Tottenham Hotspur made a loss of £51m; Manchester City made a loss of £131.8m; Arsenal a loss of £163m and Manchester United £192m.
Manchester City have won trophies through their losses on player spend, and their owners and fans would likely argue that has been a price worth paying.
But while Liverpool and Chelsea have both achieved silverware in the past five years, both of them getting their hands on a Champions League crown and Premier League title, Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur have little to show for their heavy losses when it comes to player trading. The gap between the trio and Liverpool standing at £504.4m.
** ^^ - That part is fucking nuts!.......
Signing players to new contracts is expensive. Etc.
[article]Manchester City have made on offer for the 17-year-old Brazilian winger Sávio as they push to beat Arsenal and the Red Bull group to the signing of the highly rated Atlético Mineiro player.
City have bid €6.5m (£5.5m) plus add-ons and would include a sell-on clause in any transfer. Negotiations are continuing and if a deal is struck for Sávio to join City in the summer, he could be loaned to PSV Eindhoven next season.
Arsenal and the Red Bull group, whose stable of clubs includes RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg, made contact regarding a possible transfer in December but City are leading the race for Sávio, who was given his Atlético debut in September 2020.
City effectively want to replicate the deal they struck to buy another teenage Brazilian forward, Kayky, from Fluminense last April. He joined last summer and has made brief appearances in the FA Cup and Premier League, playing the final minutes of City’s win at Norwich last Saturday.[/article]
If Mbappe joins, we’ll win everything. AFCON, World Cup, everything.
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