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This is why I think we gave ourselves a mountain to climb with that slipshod start to the season. It’s not just going to be Man City we’ll be competing with but, for long stretches of the season at least, Arsenal, Spurs and, if ten Hag keeps his nerve, Man U.
If those teams will take points away from each other we have a chance. Spurs were second best to Chelsea who got battered by Leeds. City have looked vulnerable and easily should’ve dropped points in consecutive games. Arsenal have played teams which could easily end up bottom 4.
 
If those teams will take points away from each other we have a chance. Spurs were second best to Chelsea who got battered by Leeds. City have looked vulnerable and easily should’ve dropped points in consecutive games. Arsenal have played teams which could easily end up bottom 4.
Yes, but it got the expected points. Our failing over the last two seasons has been dropping points to teams such as these.

I do agree that it’s quite early and these teams will take points off each other. Let’s see what the next sequence of games brings. If’n we reduce the number of points dropped to lower down the table teams, we’ll be in with a shout.
 
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Please could we stop saying these past 5 seasons are down to failings? We are hitting huge point totals (bar the no defenders season). We’ve had fine margins over the course of a season and it’s equally not beating city costing us titles as it is not beating Brighton/Brentford/Everton and other shit.

Back to the main point, Arsenal beating those sides is what Arsenal do. Once they come under pressure they do a spurs.
 
Yes. Against Palace, Leicester, Bournemouth and Fulham.
Got lucky in the first and last game. When they’ve played someone decent we can see what they’re made of or if its the same old Arsenal.


We literally drew with two of those teams.
 
@mark1975 where is the prematch thread pls?
Since I believe in hoodoo vudoo shit, I won't be starting a match thread.
Good news for us below if this is still the case by Wed
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Following that game, it seems that Newcastle could be without some key players for the clash at Anfield. Bruno Guimaraes, Callum Wilson and Allan Saint-Maximin are all doubts for the match, while there is another more serious injury.
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Fucking hell, Glazers seem to be spending like drunken sailors for Ten Hag. Would be a big improvement on the pitch if they are willing to take the financial hit.
 
One thing about Arsenal that's going for them ... Man City? Weaker this year it seems ... Us? Same ...
Hansern is right though - we'll see how they do once they play against stronger teams ... but this is their most balanced team in a while imo.
 
One thing about Arsenal that's going for them ... Man City? Weaker this year it seems ... Us? Same ...
Hansern is right though - we'll see how they do once they play against stronger teams ... but this is their most balanced team in a while imo.

yes, but they are a bit thin in certain positions, like midfield and center back
also their goalie is dodgy
 
yes, but they are a bit thin in certain positions, like midfield and center back
also their goalie is dodgy

Yah - that's why it will be tough for them ... They need Ramsdale to stay focused most of the season and keep Partey on the field with Xhaka. That MF works for them.
Their attacking talent is good though.
 
Yah - that's why it will be tough for them ... They need Ramsdale to stay focused most of the season and keep Partey on the field with Xhaka. That MF works for them.
Their attacking talent is good though.

The attack and fullbacks are fine. Ødegaard also very good.
 
[article]Chelsea have announced that the club has agreed to terminate Ross Barkley's contract by mutual consent[/article]

Back to Everton?
 
Too early to say Spurs and Arsenal might challenge for the title this year?
Neither will challenge as such. Both will drop alot of points along the way. They might push for top 2 if we don't get our shit together but realistically we are the only side to challenge city and if we fall away then city will win by 20+ points so if even one of those sides finished 2nd it wouldn't have been a title challenge
 
Where do we find the money to sign 2-3 midfielders at one go when prices are going crazier and crazier - the more we drag on, the higher the fees in the transfer windows to come.

 
At this rate, Bellingham is worth the quoted 150m euros.

Jheez. A little annoying to see all our rivals spend all this money and we're here still talking about how great our net spend is.
 
xG means fuck all.

To armchair fans like us.

One of the stats Graham look at when evaluating Klopp was Dortmund's xG and xGD during his last season.

[article]A first look at the numbers tells me that Dortmund certainly aren’t playing like a relegation threatened team. Our Expected Goals model (which basically assigns the probability of each shot being scored) has Klopp’s team in for scoring approximately 25 goals so far this season and a conceded total of 17 goals; this gives an Expected goal difference of +8 goals. The reality of what happened on the pitch is very different however, with the concession of 26 goals dwarfing the 18 goals that they have actually scored – that is a swing of 16 goals between the Expected Goal Difference as calculated by us and their real Goal Difference. And all of that occurred in just 17 games.

Dortmund have not had the good fortune to be in this position this season as they have recorded six single goal defeats and three draws from their 17 league games played. In other words, an additional goal here or there would almost certainly have resulted in additional league points for BVB.
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[article]“Pre-match, there’s a set of reports that James and Greg put together and then post-match there’s a similar thing that Harrison and Mark put together,” Graham explained.

“What we’ve built is a platform where the analysts can either look at the opposition analysis or post-match analysis from our point of view, so we’ve got expected goals models and expected possession value models that are linked to video to say: ‘This is what we thought was a dangerous situation.’[/article]

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Graham hardly noticed. He was immersed in his search for inefficiencies — finding players, some hidden in plain sight, who were undervalued. One afternoon last winter, he pulled up some charts on his laptop and projected them on a screen. The charts contained statistics such as total goals, goals scored per minute and chances created, along with expected goals. I was surprised to see Graham working with such statistics, which he had described to me as simplistic. But he was making a point. “Sometimes you don’t have to look much further than that,” he said.

That July, Liverpool paid Roma about $41 million for Salah. Graham’s data suggested that Salah would pair especially well with Firmino, another of Liverpool’s strikers, who creates more expected goals from his passes than nearly anyone else in his position. That turned out to be the case. During the season that followed, 2017-18, Salah turned those expected goals into real ones. He broke the Premier League record by scoring 32 times. [/article]
 
It’s emperor’s new clothes of stats. It doesn’t consider pressure of situations and actual player ability. Put Trent and Robbo in the exact same situation and the excel lovers will tell you it’s an xG of whatever. Trent’s ability gives him a higher xG. Put them in a champions league final in the 93rd minute at 1-1 gives a different expected outcome than being 5-0 up at home against Bournemouth.

Its shite. We had xG of 3.2 but won 9-0 and Salah should’ve had 3 but converted zero.
 
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