We really need City to drop at least two more points. I'm not confident that we can win all those games.
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You've been saying the same since about July, you can give it a rest now.
My bad. Even better. I hope we go all guns blazing. It will one of those games (in my opinion) where a draw isn't good enough.
Fuck me senseless, I find myself in total agreement with Binomial. 😉
You'll never go wrong that way!!
We don’t need to. I’d said for a while I expect City to be ahead of us at that stage - but now look at the remaining fixtures. It’s 38 games not 26.
All that’s important is to stay within touching distance and we’ll do it.
The reason I say that I want them to drop points is because I want us to have a bigger buffer than 2 points.
I wish I had your "we got them exactly where we want them" attitude about it.
I've looked at their remaining fixtures and ours and I still think we need to be near perfect to have a chance of winning the league.
We are definitely going to need 3 points against them at Anfield, I don't think a draw will cut it.
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I agree. I think City with De Bruyne and Haaland fit are just better than us. And obviously much more experienced and tested at the sharp end of a title race.
All the evidence suggests they'll get more points than us from here on. That's why that winner at Newcastle felt like such a blow - we really need a 5 or 6 point handicap imo.
Rodri, KDB and haaland
Agree on all points, Haaland was a bit useless without KDB, but with KDB he is something else, he will get those balls directly now because that is what KDB can do with his ball delivery, and it will free up the other cunts in their team to do more damage individually than have to play that tiki-taka way to progress the ball. The only thing that gives me hope is that we have a special ability that they don't and it's quite special:
1) Man City - can't play shit, they either play well or not play at all - the evidence being the Aston Villa game where I have witnessed them being completely rattled, by the physicality and skill of the Villa midfield.
2) We can play shit, we can play well and win games, and at the very least draw them. I think we have demonstrated some serious mentality this season, the likes of which I have not witnessed before. Before our control gave us that mentality - but this season we don't have that much control of games, but we have this thing about us - and that Fulham league game at home describes it best. The team is full of captains young and old, they don't want to lose.
Again a misconception. In the two "1 point" title battles, the first one (18/19) they were 7 points behind us at this stage and went on a near perfect run to win it by 1; the second time (21/22) we were 10 points behind them and we went on the run, while they dropped points, and we fell only 1 point short in the end. Yes we lost but we made up 9 points on the "near perfect" team in that time
You are probably all correct in assuming City are favourites, but this oft repeated myth that they always go on a perfect run in the second half while we throw points away like confetti is just not true.
But I didn't say that.
I said I think we need a gap this season because they're better than us now, and specifically better now than they were in the first half of this season, when we built up our two point lead.
But it's not about us only right? They caught Arsenal last season. At this point they were 5 points behind them with one more game played.
Also, and I could be wrong, but wasn't that '10 point gap' we almost made up in 21/22 due to a couple of games in hand?
The overemphasis on how much more important 'points on the board' are versus games in hand always annoys me. It's obviously literally true - and very much true among teams at the bottom of the table who rarely win - but in a title race winning is the default. You'd probably prefer two games in hand to 5 points on the board.
Oh, and another thing in City's favour: they ALWAYS have the best goal difference. In a tight race that could be crucial.
Silva is world class.
This season they've had Haaland, Rodri and KDB out....Hopefully they'll succumb to more injuries. I could imagine KDB coming in for some nasty tackles, lets just hope it happens sooner rather than later ie in Feb
Silva was. He isn't now.
Bernardo Silva? He's been in everyone's team of the year and he's been brilliant this season too. 6 goals and 4 assists in the Prem, he's been their driving force in midfield.
The hope is that we haven’t quite hit our best form yet and this is still to come.
Added to that - at this point we have the same GD as City - maintaining that could be crucial - as previously discussed it’s in scoring that we lag behind City - defensively we’re better.
Added to that - at this point we have the same GD as City - maintaining that could be crucial - as previously discussed it’s in scoring that we lag behind City - defensively we’re better.
Title is ours .
There's just something about this team this season..
We are winning this.. and not just the League too..
City will drop more points for sure ..
Sadly I thing Klopp will eventually leave.. but with a bang... One or two more seasons after this..
He will want to win the CL again for sure, before leaving..
No doubt about that..
There way we have come back from behind so many times this season, days everything about the mentality..
We would be unbeaten if it wasn't for VAR and terrible officials..
Which would have been another game we would have got a result after falling behind..
There's just something about this team this season..
We are winning this.. and not just the League too..
City will drop more points for sure ..
Sadly I thing Klopp will eventually leave.. but with a bang... One or two more seasons after this..
He will want to win the CL again for sure, before leaving..
No doubt about that..
There way we have come back from behind so many times this season, days everything about the mentality..
We would be unbeaten if it wasn't for VAR and terrible officials..
Which would have been another game we would have got a result after falling behind..
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It's the mentality. After a season of disappointment they've got more fire in their stomach to win everything.
We got rid of a midfield that didn't have it in them anymore to take us to where we wanna be, and brought in a midfield who did.
We came through the Christmas and NY period almost to perfection, if the cunt in the VAR awards the pen against Odegaard we'd be sitting a little more comfortably at top.
The scary thing is we haven't hit anywhere near what we can, when Mac Robbo Diaz and Gakpo hit their groove it's game over.
We got rid of a midfield that didn't have it in them anymore to take us to where we wanna be, and brought in a midfield who did.
We came through the Christmas and NY period almost to perfection, if the cunt in the VAR awards the pen against Odegaard we'd be sitting a little more comfortably at top.
The scary thing is we haven't hit anywhere near what we can, when Mac Robbo Diaz and Gakpo hit their groove it's game over.
I whole heartedly believe we could win the league. It'll come down exclusively to injuries, and how we cope without Salah.
Arguably it's our best chance to win it. I think city will be more focused on back to back CLs rather that 4 PLs on the spin.
Course they're good enough to do both
Arguably it's our best chance to win it. I think city will be more focused on back to back CLs rather that 4 PLs on the spin.
Course they're good enough to do both
It has helped us so far, but our best players need to be available at some point too and now is that point especially with arguably our best player in Africa and our only real DM in Asia.
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You mean, re. Endo, that Mac isn't a real DM despite the fact his stats are almost identical to Endo's and that he's been our 'DM' for the whole season up until his injury (and we were top of the PL at that stage)? The next match Endo was DM, we drew 0-0 with United and slipped out of top spot.
It might not be his best position, in fact it almost certainly isn't, but that doesn't mean he's not damn good at it!
I didn't say that he wasn't good, but we're talking about the squad and Endo has proven to be very useful. He'd be starting right now together with Macca if he wasn't away with his national team. In that case Macca would be playing in his natural position, the position I actually believe we bought him to play in.
Nah - we bought Macca to be the new Hendo, but he Macca is more technically sound and forward thinking. The un-droppable midfielder is Curtis Jones. You need to start accepting that.
On form yes, initially? Hell no!
And if Thiago was alive, hell no with a side of onion rings and coleslaw.
So,
Chelsea H
Arsenal A
Burnley H
Brentford A
Luton H
Forest A
Takes us to early March.
If we can get four points from Chelsea and Arsenal then we are well placed to increase the lead at the top before we play City. This This would make a defeat there not the end of the world, but we have to be ruthless and dispatch the weaker sides before.
For some reason I'd wager we have a better chance at winning at the Emirates then beating Chelsea. We always have some mental block against them.
Chelsea H
Arsenal A
Burnley H
Brentford A
Luton H
Forest A
Takes us to early March.
If we can get four points from Chelsea and Arsenal then we are well placed to increase the lead at the top before we play City. This This would make a defeat there not the end of the world, but we have to be ruthless and dispatch the weaker sides before.
For some reason I'd wager we have a better chance at winning at the Emirates then beating Chelsea. We always have some mental block against them.
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