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Things we were very wrong about in 2024

Woland

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I'll go first. Slot.

Some of the shit now. Gary oneill today. This dutch nobody favourite now. I've zero doubt he'll be absolutely wank, all Dutch managers are. They come in with the promise of total football and then single out all the flair players for days of watching lucas using the ludovico technique, and take them all jogging in a swimming bath filled with porridge until they're all crying about being slaves and needing to be back home with mama in the favella. But apart from that the pressure he'd be under from day one would be unbearable. I mean just for a start I'd be bricking his windows before he'd even had his first coaching session, the useless fat headed fuck

I mean this is just one comment but I was very against his appointment. How wrong? I wouldn't swap him for anyone, including Klopp, that's how wrong.

Will I ever love him as much as Klopp? Nope. He's more like that maths teacher I had who saw how bored I was and turned that boredom from guaranteed failure into As. I didnt want to cuddle the bastard, I fucking hated the fucker from time to time, but do I respect the fuck out of him and how he goes about his shit? 100%

Never mind he's won next to fuck all and he's going to win another load of fuck all this year, they all turn out to be weird Presbyterian autocrats who force their squad to eat cold boiled shit and pass sideways and then smirk as they tell the press that everything is just fine with a narrow defeat to Everton. Fuck right off with this ridiculous bullshit.


So any other total wronguns?
 
I'd argue Gravenberch emergence into a genuinely world class looking six is even more surprising than Slot.

We didn't know much about Slot, which carried anxiety, but we did have faith in Edwards being at the helm and leading the process alongside Hughes, and the Dutch fans spoke extremely high of him.

In contrast, we knew Gravenberch looking completely disinterested and unmotivated when the team didn't have the ball. The idea of him becoming a defensive midfielder in circumstances other than an emergency didn't enter my radar. The talent was always there but few predicted it being showcased in the six role, even with a Dutch coach joining.
 
I was right about everything - including my view of 'Slot' out before he even stepped foot into this club. I still don't trust him - have only felt comfortable with 3 performances this season - RM, Man City and Man United. Every other performance has been shit first half's followed by a good 2nd half. What that tells me is that he gets it wrong and needs to correct himself.

SLOT OUT.
 
Think my two biggies were 2023 but for the record:
Defending Darwin round about this time last year because he had a decent level of goals and assists at that point.
Saying I'd have sold Mo when the Saudis offered silly money for him.
 
Yeah, I'd say probably Darwin and that the contracts for the big 3 players would get wrapped up without to much fuss.
Darwin has been awful and not one of those contracts have been signed yet.
 
Mo for me as well. Going back a few years I didn't want Bellamy either and was very pleasantly surprised by how that move turned out.

But the real big one in my case was half a century ago when we replaced Keegan with the King, whom I'd never been that impressed with at Celtic or for Scotland. I spent the next decade celebrating how wrong I'd been. 😎
 
Things I'll happily be wrong about..

Mo having a strong second half of the season.

It feels like every year up until new year he tears the league a new one..

Then after new year he plays like Nunez.

That's why some of us say sell him. Then recency bias kicks in at the start of the season too when he goes on a run. And we say keep him.
 
Mo for me as well. Going back a few years I didn't want Bellamy either and was very pleasantly surprised by how that move turned out.

But the real big one in my case was half a century ago when we replaced Keegan with the King, whom I'd never been that impressed with at Celtic or for Scotland. I spent the next decade celebrating how wrong I'd been. 😎

To add to that... I spoke to someone who used to scout for us in the 70s (great name Willie Large) and he was asked by Bob Paisley to meet at Burtonwood services on the M62 at 7 in the morning for a trip out. He got there and Paisley and Moran were having a brew looking all perplexed and he asked them what was up and the answer was - we're about to leave here and hit the M6 and we don't know whether to drive north and bring Kenny Dalglish home or drive south and pick up Trevor Francis. Suppose we know that answer, but nice little possibly apocryphal tale.
 
Another possibly apocryphal anecdote, but one which has a ring of truth about it given others we know to be true about Paisley, is the one about the Celtic party leaving the room to see to the paperwork when the deal had been struck, whereupon Paisley apparently said: "Let's get oot o' here before they realise what they've done."
 
I was convinced Gravenberch would never make it and had an unreasonable amount of hope for Nunez. But Slot is by far the biggest one for me too
 
Yeah they both looked like great prospects but Gerrard was always injured. I think a lot of people thought similar.
 
Think my two biggies were 2023 but for the record:
Defending Darwin round about this time last year because he had a decent level of goals and assists at that point.
Saying I'd have sold Mo when the Saudis offered silly money for him.

I think we all were there on Darwin in fairness to you. Wanted it to work. I defended him. But he lost me totally when he started throwing chairs and fighting with fans. And doesn't speak the language. Nowadays players have to have some intelligence, because the manager needs them to be much more football literate. He will never be. Will always be an instinct player.

For me, it was Slot, Mo, Gravenberch, Curtis, Bradley and Harvey. I underestimated all their abilities. It's nice. Normally I would overestimate them 🙂

I think I thought Endo would be as good as Gravenberch. He's not.

I assumed this would be a rebuilding year.
 
I've been wrong about nearly everything - like to keep consistent with life more generally.

So that means there's probably hope yet for Robbo to get back to his best and Jota to last more than 2 matches without crumbling to bits.
 
Ryan Babel! I seem to recall thinking that he'd turn it around and become a great player for us

There should be about 20 posters on here acknowledging that they were wrong about Lucas and that how now, they fully accept that he was shite!
 
If we're going way back then I thought Hodgson would be a reasonable short-term appointment to see us through to more stable times. At a time when Benitez and owners couldn't share a room together I mostly wanted the club to be stop being such a drama ridden mess in the media. I didn't antipate Hodgson to act so small time when he was here, but it's clearly all the owl faced fucker knows.
 
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