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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jul/04/glazers-manchester-united?newsfeed=true


The Glazers' Manchester United float leaves a sinking feeling

Plans by the American owners of Manchester United to tackle the club's huge debt will not ease fans' fears
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Manchester United fans let the owners know their feelings about the club's purchase. Photograph: Julian Finney/Getty Images
With England's bruising disappointments in the European Championship still raw, the Premier League's big news is that Manchester United are to be floated on the New York stock exchange. A pillar of English football is being re-routed to New York, via a holding company in the Cayman Islands, in order to reduce the £423m debt mountain which the American Glazer family loaded on to United to buy the famous old club in the first place.
Against heartfelt protests from thousands of United supporters who saw the Glazers' leveraged buyout for what it was, the American speculators borrowed £525m to buy the Old Trafford club in 2005 when United were debt-free, and had gathered the money for the expansion of their stadium to a formidable 76,000 seats without borrowing a penny. When their hostile takeover was done, the Glazers saddled the club with their own borrowings, and neither the Football Association nor the Premier League has ever expressed a murmur of disapproval about it.
Seven years on, the cost of servicing that debt and of two refinancings which have involved enormous bankers' fees, has been more than £500m. Yet as the latest financial figures declare, United's debt, the legacy only of paying for the Glazers' takeover itself, remains £423m. Sir Alex Ferguson has repeatedly described the Glazers as "excellent owners" to the dismay of clear-sighted supporters. The club's chief executive, David Gill, has insisted the debt and interest burden has not damaged the club's ability to invest in Ferguson's team, or its sense of itself as the grandest of clubs.
Those blandishments have worn thin. Last season United were pipped to the Premier League title by Sheikh Mansour's lavishly funded Manchester City, knocked out of the Champions League in the group stage, and dispatched by Athletic Bilbao in the Europa League. Hauling the 37-year-old Paul Scholes out of retirement to anchor the midfield was not the sign of a club in its confident prime with a large war chest at its disposal.
Now, after a proposed float in Singapore was pulled last year, the Glazers have revealed the preferred scheme their army of bankers have orchestrated: find other people prepared to pay off some of the debt while the family retains complete control. The $100m figure widely cited as all they intend to raise is not correct; in fact the Glazers will try to get investors to cover as much of their £423m debt as possible.
The 231-page registration document filed with the New York stock exchange in preparation for the United float is the latest Glazer candidate for the most depressing document ever produced containing the word football. It features a "reorganisation" map, so investors can navigate themselves through the tax havens within which Manchester United is to be harboured.
The Glazer family will retain control, via their company Red Football, registered in the low-tax US State of Delaware: "Red Football will remain our [Manchester United's] principal shareholder and will continue to be owned and controlled by the six lineal descendants of Mr Malcolm Glazer."
That strange and cold-blooded phrase means Malcolm Glazer's five sons and one daughter; United will be registered in the Cayman Islands and traded in New York, but will remain controlled by one US family. Investors will be invited to buy A shares in the Cayman Islands holding company. They will carry 10 times less the voting rights of the B shares the Glazers will issue to themselves. Also there is no plan to pay dividends to the investors. They are asked to buy shares to trade, perhaps on a daily basis, in the expectation their value will increase as Manchester United, described as "one of the world's leading brands," further exploits its commercial potential.
This stock market move is intended to reduce the debt and put United in a healthier position, which may provide Ferguson with more money to spend on building a side to compete with the cash-rich likes of City and Chelsea. Supporters, savvy from the start, see the financial interests of the Glazers serving themselves at the heart of it.
After an England team of triers – outshone by more sophisticated football cultures – tumbled out of the Euros, there followed the now regular two-year call for a revolution in how we run the game in England. The Premier League clubs, the Football Association and the whole game down to the grass roots, the argument runs, must pull together for the common good.
Days later, Manchester United – English football's most famous name – is to be flogged off in New York via the Cayman Islands, boasting to investors of its "brand". This hocking of legendary clubs has always seemed at odds with a coherent approach to building a great sport, a waste of the great opportunities the modern era has served up.

 
Werent they supposed to float it in Singapore last year, why did that not happen? Lets be perfectly clear, they are issuing shares with one tenth the voting rights of regular shares making them effectively non voting shares, and said shares carry no guarantee of a dividend payment. So what they are basically asking for is free money with the the only hope of making a profit being selling off your shares after they have potentially increased in value in a couple of years.The funny thing is most Utd fans cant even see the irony in them being fucked over like this, the club who made their fortune by listing as a PLC and destroyed the equality of football league system.

Serious investors wont touch this and Utd fans wont want anything to do with propping up the Glazers so who exactly are they going to sell to
 
Werent they supposed to float it in Singapore last year, why did that not happen? Lets be perfectly clear, they are issuing shares with one tenth the voting rights of regular shares making them effectively non voting shares, and said shares carry no guarantee of a dividend payment. So what they are basically asking for is free money with the the only hope of making a profit being selling off your shares after they have potentially increased in value in a couple of years.The funny thing is most Utd fans cant even see the irony in them being fucked over like this, the club who made their fortune by listing as a PLC and destroyed the equality of football league system.

Serious investors wont touch this and Utd fans wont want anything to do with propping up the Glazers so who exactly are they going to sell to

Exactly, they lived by the sword and died by the sword. And it's not just the fans, but seemingly our entire media, who see in all this some apparently great injustice. Fuck 'em.
 
http://www.wired.com/business/2012/07/manchester-united/

Manchester United isn’t a soccer team—at least not in the business sense.

The Cayman Islands holding company that owns one of the world’s most popular sports franchises registered this week to go public on the New York Stock Exchange. As its filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission shows, the company is an advertising-dependent content producer that enjoys strong brand visibility and loyalty. In other words, it’s in the media business.

This could make the idea of Manchester United going public feel a little less alien to investors in the U.S., where private ownership of sports teams is nearly universal. (Remember the great Cleveland Indians IPO of 1998? Didn’t think so.) At the same time, investors haven’t been especially kind to media-themed IPOs over the past year.

Manchester United brought in nearly 60 percent of its 2011 revenue—almost $300 million—through traditional media company channels: selling access to content and selling ads tied to that content. The company brought in more than $180 million by selling broadcasting rights to the team’s matches and more than $85 million in corporate sponsorships and tie-ins. New media and mobile accounted for another $27 million. The rest of the money comes from ticket sales ($172 million) and team-branded merchandise ($48.6 million).

Each of those revenue streams rises or falls depending on the power of the Manchester United brand, which itself rises or falls depending on how well the team plays. Historically, it has played legendarily well. But fans have complained that Man U’s ability to compete for top players has suffered since taking on massive debt in U.S. businessman Malcolm Glazer’s $1.5 billion leveraged buyout of the team in 2005. The $100 million the team hopes to raise in the IPO will go to pay down its debt, which totaled about $657 million as of March 31.

“That’s not exactly what the market really loves,” Georgetown University finance professor Reena Aggarwal said of the team’s red ink.

Nor does it like debt-ridden sports teams going up against ultra-rich guys who focus on winning first, and what it costs second. In its SEC filing, Manchester United says competition for top players has become intense as billionaire sheiks and Russian oligarchs add soccer teams to their personal portfolios: “Recent investment from wealthy team owners has led to teams with deep financial backing that are able to acquire top players and coaching staff, which could result in improved performance from those teams.”

That dependence on a few key players to underwrite a company’s entire brand raises Manchester United’s risk profile, which could lead to a bumpy ride for its shares, Aggarwal says. “It’s not a diversified business,” she says. “It’s a very concentrated kind of business.”

Like Facebook and Google, Manchester United’s IPO will create preferred shares that will give the owners greater voting power than ordinary shareholders, which like Mark Zuckerberg will let Glazer keep control over his company even after the public gets a piece of it.

And also like Facebook, and every other social media company that has tested the public markets recently, Manchester United is pinning its appeal to investors on its ability to monetize the 659 million “followers” it claims to have worldwide. Facebook boasted of more than 800 million users in its IPO filing, but so far they haven’t helped its share price. Nor have big user bases done much for Yelp, Zynga or Angie’s List shares either since they went public within the past year. And Google’s returns have been mediocre during the same period.

Certainly, Manchester United, Google, Facebook and every other Internet darling aren’t in the exact same business, but they do have similarities. They all monetize eyeballs, sell ads, and are competing for people’s time by offering some form of content/entertainment or in Google’s case, services. For investors to sink their money into it, Man U needs to prove it can consistently hold people’s attention, not just in the competition with other sports teams, but in the competition with all your friends’ Facebook photos.

Maybe investors will like that they can see Manchester United’s players on the field and their frenzied fans waving red in the stands. There’s a concreteness to a sports team even if like other media companies most of its money comes from selling experiences and cachet tied to its brand, rather than a physical good. Aggarwal says the same intensity that fans bring to the team could also lead them to buy the stock.

But sports dynasties seldom last forever. In soccer as in Silicon Valley, a team that can’t keep up with its rivals quickly loses its fan base. Those fans might take defeat even less well when a missed Wayne Rooney shot means they also lose their shirts.
 
Not only that - Utd are one of the teams in England that have been rumored to be using an EBT type tax avoidance system not dissimilar to the one that Rangers have been using.

Given their current debt - if HMRC come knocking with a big tax bill - then Utd could be in a spot of bother.
 
Not only that - Utd are one of the teams in England that have been rumored to be using an EBT type tax avoidance system not dissimilar to the one that Rangers have been using.

Given their current debt - if HMRC come knocking with a big tax bill - then Utd could be in a spot of bother.

*raises one eyebrow and smirks*
 
All it would need is a cash flow problem and boom.

Maybe a little early exit from the CL followed by a 5th place finish coinciding with a visit from the tax man and another failed share float.
 
Perhaps they could take some of their titles off them as well, particularly the 2010 one.
 
So the interesting question will be - did Man Utd to increase their cash flow reserves by operating anything that might be considered a tax avoidance scheme - with particular reference to PAYE & NI.

If they did - have they already worked a deal with HMRC to pay off any tax deficit?
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jul/10/manchester-united-accounts-share-offer?CMP=twt_gu

Manchester United file out-of-date accounts for share offer

• Glazers avoid revealing 2011-12 financial performance
• Figures expected to show a decline due to failings in Europe
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Manchester United's Champions League final defeat against Barcelona in 2011 will be reflected in the accounts filed with the New York Stock Exchange. Photograph: Tom Jenkins for the Guardian
The Glazer family's timing for floating Manchester United is facing criticism from some analysts who argue the Glazers are deliberately avoiding having to present United's expected decline in financial performance in 2011-12.
The Glazers have filed with the New York Stock Exchange, to float a Manchester United company registered in the Cayman Islands tax haven, United's financial accounts for the year before that, to 30 June 2011. United's income is expected to have suffered a significant decline last year, principally due to Sir Alex Ferguson's team being eliminated from the Champions League at the group stage, whereas in 2011 they earned €53m (£44m) from Uefa after reaching the final.
Presenting accounts more than 12 months old fails to comply with US Securities and Exchange Commission requirements, and United have had to apply for special dispensation to have the out-of date accounts allowed. In a letter dated 3 July, Edward Woodward, United's executive vice-chairman based in London, points out the accounts for United's most recent financial year, to 30 June 2012, are not overdue in the Cayman Islands – "its jurisdiction of incorporation" – or any other country. Having to present the 2011-12 accounts, Woodward claims in the letter, would be: "impractical and involve undue hardship" for United.
United spokesmen both at their Old Trafford offices and representing the Cayman Islands-registered company in New York are not commenting on any aspect of the proposed flotation until it is complete and declined to explain why the Glazers had chosen this timing for the float, and to deliver out-of-date accounts.
Owen Wild, deputy editor of International Finance Review, has criticised the timing, suggesting it is because United's financial performance in 2011-12 is likely to have been significantly worse than for 2010-11. "It is very often unnecessary to do this, and investors are rightly suspicious when companies do it," Wild said. "We have several times seen companies file out-of-date accounts, then when the more recent accounts come out, they show a decline in financial performance."
United's 2011-12 accounts are almost certain to show the club made less money than in 2010-11. That year, Ferguson's team won the Premier League and lost in the Champions League final at Wembley, to Barcelona. With full houses at Old Trafford regular and the team's success marketed for global sponsorships by a team Woodward oversees in the London office, United posted a record income of £331m in 2010-11. Despite paying interest and other finance costs of £53m on the debts, then standing at £459m, which the Glazers loaded on to United to buy the club, United returned a £12m profit in 2010-11.
The club's income from European competitions will be significantly reduced for the most recent season, when United were dismissed from the Europa League by a skilled Athletic Bilbao after their Champions League failure. Uefa are due to release figures on Friday for how much each club was paid for Champions and Europa League participation last season. United's payment can be expected to be around half that of the previous year. The club also missed the earnings from three knockout stage matches at Old Trafford, which are thought to bring in around £3m each.
Many United fans feel that last season was the one in which the debts loaded on to the club by the Glazers, now at £423m, finally started to bite into the performance of Ferguson's team. Its relative drop in fortunes will have dented the club's financial performance. Those figures are not the ones being presented to potential investors in Manchester United Ltd (Cayman Islands) in New York.​
 
Manchester United's New York setback exposes failings of Glazers plan

Halting of Manchester United's New York IPO has illustrated the unattractiveness to investors – and fans – of the club's model
    • Stuart James
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Manchester United fans continue to express dissatisfaction with the Glazer family's stewardship. Photograph: Julian Finney/Getty Images​

Another day, another reality check for the Glazers. Manchester United, described as "one of the world's leading brands" in the 231-page registration document filed earlier this month in preparation for the club's flotation on the New York stock exchange, may not be quite as attractive as its owners like to believe.

After a proposed float in Singapore was pulled last year, it has emerged that United's planned initial public offering (IPO) in New York has been temporarily postponed because of volatile US markets. While United and Jefferies, the investment bank signed up to lead the flotation, remain tight-lipped about the process, those that forensically examine the Premier League club's accounts are questioning whether the latest setback is about more than the fiscal shockwaves triggered by another turbulent week in the eurozone.

"Obviously it's a tough time economically but the US stock market has barely changed from where it was when they published the original prospectus," said Andy Green, a financial analyst who writes the "andersred blog" about football ownership and is an adviser to the Manchester United Supporters Trust (Must). "Although it's hard to see inside a process like this, they're obviously having problems, and I get the impression from people that I'm talking to in the market that it's at high risk of being cancelled."
Should that happen, it will put paid to the Glazers' hopes that fresh investment will cover a sizeable chunk of the £423m debt they loaded on to a club that have fallen well behind their Premier League rivals when it comes to competing in the transfer market.

One of the primary reasons for that in the eyes of many United supporters is that the Glazers have taken £500m out of the club, in interest, bank charges and fees, to service the debt. "The latest figures we've got is that they've spent £71m on the debt in the first nine months of the financial year," Green said. "And obviously supporters were hoping that the IPO would lead to an end to a lot of those costs and more money being available to the manager.

"But in the short term, the real question is: if they do have to pull this IPO, what does it say about investors' perceptions of Manchester United? The Glazers have had talks with various parties in the past and never been able to agree on a price and this would be a real slap in the face for them if they take it to the biggest stock market in the world and they can't get it away."
In truth, it would hardly come as a surprise if United's shares prove to be a hard sell. The shares will carry a tenth of the voting rights of the shares the Glazers will issue to themselves and there is no plan to pay dividends. The Glazers, in other words, will remain in complete control and are offering precious little in return.

"It's a tough sell to start with, with very little voting rights, no annual general meetings where you can quiz the management, no dividend. But on top of that obviously there is the question of what valuation they're putting on it, and if they're trying to put a very high price on the club and all those things I've mentioned, then it becomes very, very difficult," Green said.

Must have called on the Glazer family to launch a full flotation, which would no doubt prompt a very different response, in particular from United supporters. Duncan Drasdo, the Must chief executive, said: "Should they choose to do this, with no strings attached, we would support such a flotation wholeheartedly and encourage the global fan base of Manchester United to seize such an historic opportunity to secure a meaningful fan ownership stake where the priorities of the club are the same as the fans – not absentee owners."

Green, however, believes the prospects of that happening are slim. "I don't see [any possibility of that happening in the short term] but I think the trust are right, the Glazers are making a big mistake. They're trying to do this at this huge price and with keeping total control. Actually, there is a natural buyer for these shares if they want to get more money into the club from the outside to get the debt down — the supporter base which they reckon is 600m around the world.

"I'm sure there are at least a million football fans around the world who would like to own a stake in the club. The Glazers are far too short-sighted for that. They're too greedy and too controlling. I do think if this IPO falls apart, that it could be a real turning point because the Qataris, the Red Knights and now the world's institutional investors will all have said to the Glazers: 'No, the club is not worth as much as you think it is.'"
 
Man Utd 'overvalued' - expert
August 1, 2012

By Richard Jolly

A leading football finance expert has said that Manchester United are overvalued and believes that their forthcoming IPO will prove the prelude to the sale of the club.

United's owners, the Glazer family, will make 10% of shares available on the New York Stock Exchange next Friday and should raise at least $300 million  which would make the club's total value over $3 billion.

"If you look at the current exchange rate, you get about £2 billion. They were talking about £1.8 billion a year ago, which is way too high," said David Bick, chairman of Square1 consulting. "I just don't get the valuation. I don't get why major banks [as underwriters] have put their name behind it."

United plan to use some of the proceeds to repay around £75 million of their debts, which currently stand at £437 million. But Bick said: "It is barely 20% of the debt. It is the bare minimum. I think that this float is just the prelude to them getting a market price and selling the club."

Selling a limited amount of shares can produce a higher value, he explained. "It is easier to float 10% of the shares for an inflated price than half a company," he said.

With global financial markets experiencing difficult times and Britain in a double-dip recession, Bick questioned the motives and the timing of the Glazers.
"The thing that doesn't make sense is doing it in these market conditions," he said. "You would be more inclined to wait for a year or two. The timing strikes me as odd particularly in market terms. They [the Glazers] may need the money."

While 10% of shares in the club are for sale, the Glazers will retain 98.7% of voting rights, because shares are split between Class A shares, which carry one vote per share and Class B shares, which have 10 votes per share.

It is a reason why the club is being floated in the United States, rather than the United Kingdom, and Bick said it would deter potential investors.

"You would never get it in London and I am kind of surprised they would have it in the US with A Shares and B shares," he added. "Most London institutions would not touch that with a bargepole. I can't remember the last time there was some kind of double voting structure on the London market."
 
Manchester United employees stand to gain £204m in Glazers share plan

• Fans question whether Sir Alex Ferguson might benefit
• Manchester United IPO includes employee share scheme
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Sir Alex Ferguson has described the Glazers' ownership of Manchester United as 'great'. Photograph: Peter Powell/EPA
Manchester United's controversial flotation in New York continues to provoke an angry reaction from supporters after it emerged that senior employees at Old Trafford stand to benefit from a share scheme worth up to $320m (£204m).
A highly lucrative "2012 Equity Incentive Award Plan", as it is described in the Initial Public Offering (IPO) prospectus released on Monday, has raised questions among some United fans as to whether Sir Alex Ferguson, the manager, and David Gill, the chief executive, will stand to personally profit from the Glazers' decision to list the club on the New York stock exchange.
United are refusing to comment on the situation. "Under the regulations of the SEC [Securities and Exchange Commission], we are not permitted to disclose the contents of the document," said a United spokesman.
The Glazers, who are looking to raise up to $383m (£244m) by selling more than 19m shares in the Premier League club at up to $20 a piece, came in for severe criticism on Monday when it transpired they had reneged on their promise to use all the funds from a successful flotation to reduce United's £437m debts.
Ferguson and Gill have both staunchly defended the American owners in the past, much to the dismay of those that have protested against the way that the club has been run since the Glazers' leveraged buyout in 2005. Only nine days ago, Ferguson described the Glazers as "great" and suggested that "the majority of real fans will look at it realistically and say it's not affecting the team". Those remarks went down badly with some supporters.
Doubts also persist about how successful the IPO will prove to be, and the Equity Incentive Award Plan already looks like being a controversial element. According to the club's prospectus, United's executive committee, including Gill, are in line for a £1.25m IPO bonus once the deal is done. But the richest rewards will go to those selected to take part in the Equity Incentive Award Plan.
The plan is designed to "attract, retain and motivate selected employees, consultants and non-employee directors", according to the prospectus. Some 16m shares – worth a potential $320m at the top end of the forecast IPO price – will be set aside for those selected to be part of the plan. The awards will be made using a variety of schemes and if the company is taken over, a "change of control" clause will allow United to pay out the share awards immediately.
Andy Green, a financial analyst who writes the "andersred blog" on football ownership and is an adviser to the Manchester United Supporters Trust (Must), said United should clear up Ferguson's situation. "I'm not sure you can have a $288m [the mid-range valuation] benefit package for key employees and not include the manager," Green said. "I think he should probably come and tell the fans either way. If he's not benefited, fair enough. But it's certainly going to be something that's on a lot of people's minds."
Green also believes Ferguson is on dangerous ground with his comments about the fans in relation to the Glazers. "I think he is risking tarnishing some of his legacy, which is a great shame because he is the greatest manager probably in English football history. But his association with all this skulduggery is sad. Also, he has rejected the fans who are understandably and correctly concerned about what is going on. Look at this IPO, it was promised to pay down the debt. It's now making hardly any impact – it's the owners taking money out and leaving the club in debt. Being concerned about that is perfectly legitimate. And then for him to say that you're not a real fan if you are concerned … well, that's quite staggering."
Duncan Drasdo, the Must chief executive, is aware of fans' concerns but said that he wants to keep the spotlight on the Glazers for the moment. "I know people are asking if David Gill and Sir Alex Ferguson are going to benefit from the IPO and whether that has affected their statements. But I don't want to divert attention away from the terms of the IPO and the pressure we're trying to put on the banks."
 
Manchester United's share price has dropped to $12 - its lowest price yet and giving the club a valuation 40% less than the Glazers had hoped.

PA PhotosManchester United have not received the expected cash injection

Ten per cent of United's shares were put up for sale on the New York Stock Exchange last month with their American owners hoping to achieve a price of $20 each, which would have valued the club at $3.3 billion.

But they only received $14 a share at first, and even that was down to the financial institutions who had underwritten the Initial Public Offering (IPO).

Since then, prices have slipped further and reached the $12 barrier at midday on Thursday in New York - giving United a value of $2 billion (just over £1.2 billion).

The Glazers paid around £800 million to complete their takeover in 2005 and, had shares sold at $20 apiece, stood to make a huge profit if the remaining 90% of shares were made available to investors.

However, financial analysts have long warned that United's shares were overpriced and in August, PrivCo, the Private Financial Company Data Authority, said the right value for them was just $4.97 each.
 
So $4.97 would value United at just ~£500m ? Seems a bit on the light side doesn't it ?
 
Hopefully this will follow the same path facebook did when they launched at an insanely overvalued price, there are alot of analysts who believe this will end up well below $10
 
Especially if you paid £800m

Well if you consider that they have lumbered a huge amount of debt onto the company since then and that their position domestically and particularly in Europa has slipped it doesnt seem that odd for their value to have decreased. Anybody buying them now would be taking on debts which have a huge effect on their future profitability
 
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