There’s loads. That’s why the mid table is so tight. We’re the only great side.
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Nah. They beat Forest 3-0 and still stayed shit. Look what we did to Leicester and compare it to them. They were very lucky.
We are 14 points ahead of them with a game in hand. City are out of it.
Behave! They are 14pts back having played a game more. Even if they won every game from now til the end of the season we’d have to completely fall apart for them to catch us.
Neither are happening.
Fightning every temptation to not bookmark the post above.
I doubt our 2nd string could handle Lille. Slot will want to win the league phase for the advantage it 'may' bring. He'll go relatively strong and sub. like yesterday if we've got it won.
So only 7 then 😂
Klopp's Liverpool.
Whilst it's correct we are 'only' 9, 10, 11 (probably) and possibly 17 points ahead of the competition, when some say we can 'easily' be reeled in (haha) there are numerous factors not being considered.
1. Some are assuming that those teams are capable of going on long winning (not drawing) runs. IMO none are. City are dead and buried and with a much weaker team than in previous seasons, Arsenal and Chelsea have been inconsistent to date and the league has numerous strong teams (esp.when they play at home).
2. Some are assuming that we could go on a losing spree, so whilst that is unlikely barring a huge injury crisis (and it's looking like Slot's methods and team are handling this better than in recent years) they need to consider, mathematically, what that would require.
3. It would need an implosion of form on our side and a huge improvement on behalf of our rivals - not withstanding their own injury and form issues.
Mathematically let's say we had some poor results and were to lose 4 and draw 4 in the 2nd half of the season (D3 & L1 to date). We'd finish on 85 points.
Arsenal would need 49 points from here to top us. Or circa W15 D4 L1
Chelsea would need 50 points to go top. W16 D2 L1
City would need 54 points and a massive GD turnaround. So circa. W18 D0 L1
Sorry Forest I don't think you're in the conversation no matter how well you've done up to here.
Whilst nothing is impossible I think OPTAs 90% chance of us winning the league from here is accurate. I can't see us being worse than W12 D4 L4 from here or any of those teams achieving what they would need in that worse case scenario.
And if we are better than 12-4-4 then that percentage moves ever higher to around 95 - 97% and a near impossible scenario for Arsenal and Chelsea of probably having to win almost every game from here to the end of the season.
1. Some are assuming that those teams are capable of going on long winning (not drawing) runs. IMO none are. City are dead and buried and with a much weaker team than in previous seasons, Arsenal and Chelsea have been inconsistent to date and the league has numerous strong teams (esp.when they play at home).
2. Some are assuming that we could go on a losing spree, so whilst that is unlikely barring a huge injury crisis (and it's looking like Slot's methods and team are handling this better than in recent years) they need to consider, mathematically, what that would require.
3. It would need an implosion of form on our side and a huge improvement on behalf of our rivals - not withstanding their own injury and form issues.
Mathematically let's say we had some poor results and were to lose 4 and draw 4 in the 2nd half of the season (D3 & L1 to date). We'd finish on 85 points.
Arsenal would need 49 points from here to top us. Or circa W15 D4 L1
Chelsea would need 50 points to go top. W16 D2 L1
City would need 54 points and a massive GD turnaround. So circa. W18 D0 L1
Sorry Forest I don't think you're in the conversation no matter how well you've done up to here.
Whilst nothing is impossible I think OPTAs 90% chance of us winning the league from here is accurate. I can't see us being worse than W12 D4 L4 from here or any of those teams achieving what they would need in that worse case scenario.
And if we are better than 12-4-4 then that percentage moves ever higher to around 95 - 97% and a near impossible scenario for Arsenal and Chelsea of probably having to win almost every game from here to the end of the season.
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This is quite frankly far too much facts and logic for such a discussion. Lots of people are in self preservation mode - we have had more dreams crushed in the past decade than probably every other PL fan base combined.
They are miles back and out if it. Their squad has been in decline for 2 seasons and this is the result. Dead in the water 🤪
Yeah facts are inconvenient like that 🤪😉
It does put the mind at ease somewhat. And every win for us or dropped point for either Arsenal or Chelsea helps.
We have 10 home games left too, which is nice. 8 or 9 wins there and we aren't asking for too many miracles on the road.
Our 35th and 36th games of the season are Chelsea (A) and Arsenal (H). I expect one of them to still be sticking somewhat near us by this point, and we could have a huge game on our hands.
We have 10 home games left too, which is nice. 8 or 9 wins there and we aren't asking for too many miracles on the road.
Our 35th and 36th games of the season are Chelsea (A) and Arsenal (H). I expect one of them to still be sticking somewhat near us by this point, and we could have a huge game on our hands.
Rationally I know you are all right. I still have a bit of the fear though.
I think Chelsea are the real threat. Arsenal are mentally weak and Saka's injury is a big loss.
We should do it but until it's mathematically impossible to throw it away, it's squeaky bum for me.
I think Chelsea are the real threat. Arsenal are mentally weak and Saka's injury is a big loss.
We should do it but until it's mathematically impossible to throw it away, it's squeaky bum for me.
A few months ago I said that I'd be ready to say that we'd win the league if we were more than 10 points ahead of Man C by the end of December. Now that we're here, I feel like its still a bit premature.
It's our fixture list in the second half of the season that scares me. 9 points just isn't enough for me to feel absolutely confident.
I don't think people really understand how big a 9 point lead is at this stage. It's about as big as it can be without being totally unassailable. For a turnaround that big you need more than a blip, you need a fundamental change in form over half a season. I get that everyone's nervous it'll disintegrate - so am I - but in reality a 90% chance is probably about right.
Logic suggests it's more likely we extend the lead in the next two months than anything else, especially with Saka out and Salah out performing all attackers in the league. I'm confident Slot and the players have this.
Just enjoy it - who knows what next season brings.
Just enjoy it - who knows what next season brings.
I hope we have it won before then.
Win our next 3 and I think we will see more of us being confident of the title.
I wont be confident until its mathematically impossible to lose it.
Ideally win it against West Ham on 12th of April when I have a ticket. We would need to be 19 ahead at that point!
If we win it against Spurs late April that gives us May to concentrate on the FA Cup and of course Big Ears. Actually go into a final not running on empty.
My confidence is high - but not ready to call it a sure thing. Win away at Forest and I think we'll see a lot more talk. Ideally we maximise the points on offer between now and the CL knock outs start up (first week of March). This is when I think any patchy form can start as we balance a schedule with fewer chances to rest key players.
As you said earlier - that fear is built into every Liverpool fan due to that bloody 115 club. However this season feels so very different.
It absolutely feels different. But there's still this nagging sensation in the back of my mind.
And that the rescheduled fixture against Everton is the potential dreaded turning point.
They’re fucking shite. Their fans were suicidal last night.
They can still break legs.
Their fans want to break the players legs.
I was saying the other day that right now we just have to keep winning (obv) and not allow the other teams any hope. That’s where we’ve fucked it in the past in this kinda position. We had little stumbles, mini poor spells and City / whoever have thought to themselves yeah they can be got. We carry on winning through Jan and the rest will give up.
