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The race

Fun stat. 7 wins means we equal the amount of wins the “invincibles” had. They were W26, D12. 90 points.

Don’t see us hitting 90 because we don’t need to but would be a good stat to have in our pocket. Seeing a lot of “lucky title” etc.
 
Yeah I think if Arsenal lose against Forest and we beat Newcastle it's over.
14 point is just too much despite them having a game in hand.
I have to agree on this - even with their game in hand - the will just look at the table and think - "shit - its King Kong - we can't beat it"
 
Considering that we're now missing both Gomez and Bradley. I'm kinda OK with us not being in the FA cup.

Is it fair to say that "our backups for our backups", (I'm basically referring to our youth players) just aren't good enough?

Looking at Arsenal they brought Lewis Skelly and Nwaneri from their reserves.

Let's say that we were still in the FA cup and needed to rotate.

We'd have to play Mabaya at RB and Nallo at CB and we saw how they did last time they got a chance.

Or is it that we loaned out our best reserves and it cost us?
 
I deserve this.
No you don't - and no one can blame anyone who thought the same, the truth is - we have spunked away the league in previous seasons due to draws, and whatever you think of Arsenal, they have proved in the last couple of seasons they can string together a long winning run, and are very hard to beat. Yes they have injuries, but those are forward line injuries and Trosard is still fit, and they have that young highly rated kid up front, but their midfield and defensive options are very strong still. Their biggest loss this season has been Saka, not Havertz. So anyone saying "Told you so" is full of shit anyway. Also for the record - I still don't feel safe with the lead we have and like you will start to believe that the title is ours if we beat Newcastle and they lose to Forest.
 
Considering that we're now missing both Gomez and Bradley. I'm kinda OK with us not being in the FA cup.

Is it fair to say that "our backups for our backups", (I'm basically referring to our youth players) just aren't good enough?

Looking at Arsenal they brought Lewis Skelly and Nwaneri from their reserves.

Let's say that we were still in the FA cup and needed to rotate.

We'd have to play Mabaya at RB and Nallo at CB and we saw how they did last time they got a chance.

Or is it that we loaned out our best reserves and it cost us?

Hopefully the week off before PSG will see Trent get some decent rest and Bradley close to return.
Going out of the FA cup is a blessing in disguise imho.
 
Yeah! No one in their right mind thought West Ham were getting anything from new Highbury.

Err...

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Oh right, you said "in their right mind".
 
Considering that we're now missing both Gomez and Bradley. I'm kinda OK with us not being in the FA cup.

Is it fair to say that "our backups for our backups", (I'm basically referring to our youth players) just aren't good enough?

Looking at Arsenal they brought Lewis Skelly and Nwaneri from their reserves.

Let's say that we were still in the FA cup and needed to rotate.

We'd have to play Mabaya at RB and Nallo at CB and we saw how they did last time they got a chance.

Or is it that we loaned out our best reserves and it cost us?
I think Owen Beck and even that other Calvin Ramsey (I think that is his name) - the later I think is a case of a kid who I think can actually do well with other great players around him but might not show to be excellent if he has poor players around him - don't know why - but the 5 minutes I saw of him against Napoli 2 seasons ago - he had something about him, shame injuries have screwed him up.
 
No you don't - and no one can blame anyone who thought the same, the truth is - we have spunked away the league in previous seasons due to draws, and whatever you think of Arsenal, they have proved in the last couple of seasons they can string together a long winning run, and are very hard to beat. Yes they have injuries, but those are forward line injuries and Trosard is still fit, and they have that young highly rated kid up front, but their midfield and defensive options are very strong still. Their biggest loss this season has been Saka, not Havertz. So anyone saying "Told you so" is full of shit anyway. Also for the record - I still don't feel safe with the lead we have and like you will start to believe that the title is ours if we beat Newcastle and they lose to Forest.
You can feck right off with your 'full of shit' comment... If you don't feel safe with an 11 point lead against a team that can't score, when we have 7 of 11 remaining matches at Anfield, that's your own issue. Nobody who's simply said 'it's not over but we're in good shape, so try to relax and enjoy it' is acting the bollox here.

Also, we didn't 'spunk away' any league title, since Rafa's nearly season. That's exactly the ridiculous hyperbole that I and several other posters find ludicrous and have spurred these debates.
 
I think Owen Beck and even that other Calvin Ramsey (I think that is his name) - the later I think is a case of a kid who I think can actually do well with other great players around him but might not show to be excellent if he has poor players around him - don't know why - but the 5 minutes I saw of him against Napoli 2 seasons ago - he had something about him, shame injuries have screwed him up.

It's probably because they're not good enough.

If you are good, you'd look good in a bad team, if you're not and look good in a good team, it's because the good team is making you look better than you actually are.
 
You can feck right off with your 'full of shit' comment... If you don't feel safe with an 11 point lead against a team that can't score, when we have 7 of 11 remaining matches at Anfield, that's your own issue. Nobody who's simply said 'it's not over but we're in good shape, so try to relax and enjoy it' is acting the bollox here.

Also, we didn't 'spunk away' any league title, since Rafa's nearly season. That's exactly the ridiculous hyperbole that I and several other posters find ludicrous and have spurred these debates.

I think 13/14 was the biggest choke. 3 points ahead with 3 to play, 2 of them at home. We chucked that one away.

08/09 I don't think we ever had that significant a lead. We choked in like Feb or something, but we were never in that great a position anyway. Utd were always going to make it tough.
 
Getting a bit annoyed about everyone saying that the race is over.
Massive win absolutely but we're one fuck up from letting Arsenal get close to us again.
Everything seems to stem from how Arsenal performed against West Ham and that they play against Forest next.
The reality is the 11 points could turn to 8 points since they have a game in hand.
 
You can feck right off with your 'full of shit' comment... If you don't feel safe with an 11 point lead against a team that can't score, when we have 7 of 11 remaining matches at Anfield, that's your own issue. Nobody who's simply said 'it's not over but we're in good shape, so try to relax and enjoy it' is acting the bollox here.

Also, we didn't 'spunk away' any league title, since Rafa's nearly season. That's exactly the ridiculous hyperbole that I and several other posters find ludicrous and have spurred these debates.
Actually we did - and you are in complete denial - had we not drawn to spurs (at home) in the quad challenge season - we may have gone onto win it, and before that - in that other season when we won the CL - had we not drawn to teams like Everton and some other shit then we may have won it too. We have been very lucky that Arsenal have not capitalized when we have drawn games this season, otherwise you would be crying. 11 point lead means nothing to me even if they (Arsenal) don't look likely right now. I will believe it when we are out of sight and even if the table says 11 points - I look at it as still 8 points given their game in hand now. I still recall the draw to Crystal Palace last season and they are playing quite well away from home right now.

So nothing is done yet, but as you are so certain - make yourself useful and let me know the following:

1) if we win it - when will be the parade in Liverpool - need dates / times
2) does the parade take place the day after we officially win it or will it be at the end of season- after FA / CL finals.
3) if we make the CL final does it mean we have to wait till that is over ?
4) do you think it better to book a hotel in Birmingham the night before and take a train down to Liverpool

Let me know - cheers.

MORON (Legend).
 
It's probably because they're not good enough.

If you are good, you'd look good in a bad team, if you're not and look good in a good team, it's because the good team is making you look better than you actually are.
I get your point but not always true, but in these matters - we have to leave it to the coaches to work it out, but the two lads I mention - when they played small cameo's for us - they had no fear in them at all and that's what surprised me, and if they don't have that fear then they are half way to being first team material in my view.
 
Getting a bit annoyed about everyone saying that the race is over.
Massive win absolutely but we're one fuck up from letting Arsenal get close to us again.
Everything seems to stem from how Arsenal are performed against West Ham and that they play against Forest next.
The reality is the 11 points could turn to 8 points since they have a game in hand.

Modo. It’s over mate and has been since the time of the Saka injury. Relax and go book a sunny holiday on the beach somewhere.

Arsenal are nothing. They’re playing a midfielder up top and a teenager on the wing. They have the biggest crybaby fraud as their manager.
 
Actually we did - and you are in complete denial - had we not drawn to spurs (at home) in the quad challenge season - we may have gone onto win it, and before that - in that other season when we won the CL - had we not drawn to teams like Everton and some other shit then we may have won it too. We have been very lucky that Arsenal have not capitalized when we have drawn games this season, otherwise you would be crying. 11 point lead means nothing to me even if they (Arsenal) don't look likely right now. I will believe it when we are out of sight and even if the table says 11 points - I look at it as still 8 points given their game in hand now. I still recall the draw to Crystal Palace last season and they are playing quite well away from home right now.

So nothing is done yet, but as you are so certain - make yourself useful and let me know the following:

1) if we win it - when will be the parade in Liverpool - need dates / times
2) does the parade take place the day after we officially win it or will it be at the end of season- after FA / CL finals.
3) if we make the CL final does it mean we have to wait till that is over ?
4) do you think it better to book a hotel in Birmingham the night before and take a train down to Liverpool

Let me know - cheers.

MORON (Legend).

That's an idiotic response... Anybody can take any single match and make it the reason their team didn't win, if they lost by one point. You're basically saying 'we choked because we didn't win every single match that we didn't win that year, and if we had, we would have won it'. You seem to define 'choking' as 'not winning when you have a chance'. That's utter bullshit.

You have to take more than 'we should have beaten Spurs that one time' into it. Look at how we did over the whole season. Look at who we were up against. look at how we finished the season, etc... We didn't choke the year Stevie slipped - We won all but two of our last 15 or so... That was immense, considering the squad we had. We just didn't quite have enough at the very end. That's NOT choking. And we didn't choke the year of the domestic cup double, either - We were 12 minutes from winning the league and 2 results from the quad. The first year that we lost the title on the last day, we would have won EVERY OTHER TITLE, EVER... If that's choking to you, wow! And have you ever enjoyed anything?!?!?!?

If you choose to not believe that we can win the league until we've actually won the league, I can't help you... And your refusal to believe in us doesn't mean that I'm being ridiculously optimistic, either. I'm just being realistic, where as you're making being insanely pessimistic your thing. And it's nonsense. Using your logic, nothing is enjoyable until it's over and things went perfectly. No thanks - I choose NOT being a miserable twat.

Oh, and here are the answers to your childish, condescending questions:

1) Go
2) And
3) Fuck
4) Yourself.

Now you know. Cheers.

Whaddapie (Normal)
 
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