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The not confirmed, it's really only a rumour transfer thread ;Summer 2012

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I_Rushie: Agger hasn't scored any important goals.
Me: Yes he has, vs Chelsea and I think it was more important than Skrtel's against Cardiff.
You: Modo is saying that AGGER is MR Super defender for scoring against Chelsea.
 
Its funny this thread

Kris, no one is saying agger is poor, but your gross under estimation of our player of the season is baffling.

Thats why people are rounding on you.
 
Change of subject James Rodriguez 23m lets make it happen!!! we should be going crazy with optimism not arguing over who's better out of agger and skrtel.
 
Its funny this thread

Kris, no one is saying agger is poor, but your gross under estimation of our player of the season is baffling.

Thats why people are rounding on you.
This for me really isn't about Agger vs Skrtel, I only commented as I admittedly don't believe the quoted article and the figured numbers with regards to Skrtel.

Anyways it's a forum mate and as far I'm concerned it's a place where opinions meet and are being discussed.

I dont think Skrtel is worth £20M is all. I don't believe I am under estimating him either, but then again I might be.

For every player out there there's probably different point of views with regards to quality, ability, etc. I am not saying Skrtel is a poor defender, rather the contrary why I don't want us to sell him especially after his very good Season.

I do however believe with a new manager, new approach etc., if we are offered £20M we should bite their hand off.
 
Fair enough kris.

Tbh no footballer is worth the money paid for them. Unfortunately its the nature of the beast, and while you may disagree with the valuation, skrtel IS worth at least 16m. Agger, possibly fractionally less due to his injury record.

That doesn't mean one is better than the other, just that appearances are what you pay for as much as ability.
 
Says the one who thinks an Ipswich flop is our saviour. Adam had a great season in top flight football at Blackpool. He's also second in our list of creative players last season, in terms of goals he was involved in. He might have had a car crash of a season in many respects, but he still was second only to Suarez for his creativity.

I never said he would 'improve us' greatly, I said he would be a good addition to the squad. He wasn't the only underperformer last season, the squad and team underperformed as a whole. It's fairly laughable anyway if that's all you've got in your locker.

And regards the I_Rushie point, I don't give a fuck who posted if first, I was taking on your point about Agger scoring in a CL semi final having any bearing over who is the better defender - Clue, it doesn't. Hapless.
Honestly that seems a wee bit too convenient for me mate.

You don't care who posted it first but you are attacking the poster saying so who's thinking Agger's the better player.

*AGENDA ALERT*

I like you mate you know that and I care about your opinions and often appreciate and agree with them too, so I'm not going to argue anymore with you guys over Skrtel but you have almost defended Skrtel at all costs as brave I have Agger, and you too have been very tricker happy with regards to Agger.

Half of the forum even wanted him sold last Season and replaced with Scott Dann if I remember correctly. How stupid would we be looking now had we followed the majority of 6CMs posters then? Figures likes £6M were being quoted as sufficient as long as we could get rid of the always injured deadweight.
 
Bearing?
I_Rushie: Agger hasn't scored any important goals.
Me: Yes he has, vs Chelsea and I think it was more important than Skrtel's against Cardiff.
You: Modo is saying that AGGER is MR Super defender for scoring against Chelsea.

Are you pulling me up on a typo? Haha.

And yes, I formed that opinion because of your comment about the Chelsea goal and not because you're the first to hold KHL's hand everytime this stupid argument comes up.
 
Fair enough kris.

Tbh no footballer is worth the money paid for them. Unfortunately its the nature of the beast, and while you may disagree with the valuation, skrtel IS worth at least 16m. Agger, possibly fractionally less due to his injury record.

That doesn't mean one is better than the other, just that appearances are what you pay for as much as ability.
I agree with that, both players have their strength and weaknesses.

And valuation is a difficult one too, just look at the prize of Henderson etc.

I even agree that Skrtel's been the bigger asset at times of the two due to him playing more regularly.
 
Are you pulling me up on a typo? Haha.

And yes, I formed that opinion because of your comment about the Chelsea goal and not because you're the first to hold KHL's hand everytime this stupid argument comes up.
My arguments aren't any more stupid than yours when it comes to Skrtel v Agger.
 
Honestly that seems a wee bit too convenient for me mate.

You don't care who posted it first but you are attacking the poster saying so who's thinking Agger's the better player.

*AGENDA ALERT*

I like you mate you know that and I care about your opinions and often appreciate and agree with them too, so I'm not going to argue anymore with you guys over Skrtel but you have almost defended Skrtel at all costs as brave I have Agger, and you too have been very tricker happy with regards to Agger.

Half of the forum even wanted him sold last Season and replaced with Scott Dann if I remember correctly. How stupid would we be looking now had we followed the majority of 6CMs posters then? Figures likes £6M were being quoted as sufficient as long as we could get rid of the always injured deadweight.

Kris. Not being funny mate, but read my posts in this thread. I've barely even mentioned Skrtel, other than to say that they're both good players and that I don't understand the need to emphasise who is the better player or their potential worth in the transfer market.

What agenda? I haven't gone off on one about one of them being better than the other, so who has the agenda again? I attacked Modo's post because he's always at the front of the cue side byside with yourself to raise this stupid debate and cream over and exaggerate the abilities of the great Dane. We've all been posting long enough to know each others stances over certain subjects/players and Modo has made his viewpoint clear on this at every opportunity. The original point was neither here nor there, Modo felt the need to point out that scoring in a CL semi final is better than scoring in a League Cup Final. Of course it is, but it has no meaning regarding their respective abilities.

We may aswell say, well Smicer has scored in a CL Final, Andy Carroll has only scored in an FA Cup Final.

Pointless and needless comment, and for the record, much like I_Rushie's original post.
 
My arguments aren't any more stupid than yours when it comes to Skrtel v Agger.

Kris, I think you've taken that comment a bit too personally. The *argument* is stupid. I don't agree with your viewpoint but your opinions are far from stupid. Modo on the other hand....
 
Fabio just for the record here's your own valuation of Skrtel a month ago:

erry_A_Trick said:
How much would we get for Skrtel? He's just off his best ever season and is still young.

I'm not saying we should sell, obviously, but should he want to leave, what could we realistically get for him?
Fabio: I think it'd be 13-16m each for skrts and agger.

Dmish said around £15M for Skrtel back then.
 
See.. we almost agree Fabs 😀

*You're only half mental though as you've not gone all £10M on us.
 
Kris, I think you've taken that comment a bit too personally. The *argument* is stupid. I don't agree with your viewpoint but your opinions are far from stupid. Modo on the other hand....
I don't often agree with Modo to be honest, but he knows his Agger. You have to give him that.

No more arguing. I'm tired.
 
FFS, does it matter what fee we'd get?

This is the whole crux of my annoyance. You go tracking down posts where someone says he's worth £13m or whatever, on the back of making a point of saying on the last page that Agger, on the other hand, would fetch £20m and attract all the best league teams in Europe.

Do you not see (or care about) the blatant exaggeration and transparent agenda?
 
I don't often agree with Modo to be honest, but he knows his Agger. You have to give him that.

No more arguing. I'm tired.

He 'knows his Agger'? You mean he's reading from the same page from you which = being right?

Quite, I give it up.
 
FFS, does it matter what fee we'd get?

This is the whole crux of my annoyance. You go tracking down posts where someone says he's worth £13m or whatever, on the back of making a point of saying on the last page that Agger, on the other hand, would fetch £20m and attract all the best league teams in Europe.

Do you not see (or care about) the blatant exaggeration and transparent agenda?
I appreciate your effort mark.... But I dont think well see any change
 
FFS, does it matter what fee we'd get?

This is the whole crux of my annoyance. You go tracking down posts where someone says he's worth £13m or whatever, on the back of making a point of saying on the last page that Agger, on the other hand, would fetch £20m and attract all the best league teams in Europe.

Do you not see (or care about) the blatant exaggeration and transparent agenda?
Eh this whole argument over the past 10 pages has been about what fee we can expect or not hasn't it?

Fair enough you don't care for what others have said and what we've been arguing but it is a little bit annoying that we are not arguing the same subject.
 
Liverpool have agreed a fee for Messi!!! will that change the subject now.

For the record we haven't but you get the point.
 
I appreciate your effort mark.... But I dont think well see any change
For what it's worth mate, your evaluation of Skrtel is much more sound compared to what I've been seeing over the last few pages, so why didn't you just chip in instead of let me hang out there?

Dmishra even made a post a few pages back stating we should ask for £25M though he less than a month ago realistically thought £15M would be about right. In all fairness I'd not been opening this can of worms had I seen those figures. But when £20M - £30M came up I felt the urge to comment.

I regret that now.
 
I think our only hope of getting Rodriguez is that Man U have committed to other targets and hadn't intended to move for him this summer, which might allow us to sneak in ahead of them.
Reports in Dutch media say that we have lodged a € 28m bid which is a good bit higher that I thought he would go for.
Still potentially a world class player though.

Hopefully city stay out of this transfer!
 
I have never seen him play or at least taken notice of him, but from what you guys say I am all for this Rodriguez-lad.
 
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