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The not confirmed, it's really only a rumour transfer thread ;Summer 2012

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I tried to fathom how one could possibly value Skrtel at 8 million, and Agger at 20 million, and to pinpoint the gaping chasm between the two, I came up with this:


· Agger - born 12.12.1984: 27 years young > Skrtel - born 15.12.1984, 27 years old
· Agger - contract expires 2014, 2 long years > Skrtel - contract expires 2014, 2 dangerously short years
· Agger – 170/9 games/goals for LFC since 12.01.2006 > Skrtel – 173/7 games/goals for LFC since 11.01.2008
· Agger – 0 LFC player of the season awards > Skrtel – 1 LFC player of the season award
· Agger – Danish >>> Skrtel – Slovakian
So because you can come up with stats on two defenders that's pretty much identical in the games played ratio and age you can asume the two players are of equal quality?

Oh dear. I guess halfwits like yourself have had a say in our clubs dealings a few years to long, seems you've been well infected.

Where's the stats that actually COUNTS when it comes to defenders? I've been told bizillion of times on here it doesn't matter if a defender scores goals and now you are daft enough to try and prove that they are identical because they've got about the same goal to game ratio. (One's been scoring vital goals in Champions League semis and UEFA quarters btw).

How stupid are you? And how stupid are those posters liking your post? And how much a 'fucking moron' is Squitiggles for once again enter the frame with nothing but a stupid, childish snipe at me for questioning som papers rambling about Skrtel being worth £20M.

FYI: It's probably his agent trying to secure him a new deal and imo Skrtel should fucking know better. He can close the door behind him for all I care.

And Ryan, I'm always spot on when it comes to Agger.

Aaaaaaahhhh

*feels rejuvenated*

PS i_rushie can you please compare the quality of Lucas and Alonso to me as well now please. I want to see only their age, appearances and goals of course. Will make Lucas look a right belter just down Ryan's alley.
 
Even if We don't get Jimmy Rodriguez it is nice being linked with such a talent.
Unfortunately I think it might be agent talk trying to drive up the price as I though he had a release clause of €20m in his contract.
Rodgers and Rodriguez.
Sounds aces
 
KHL, he's handed you your arse on a plate. Retreat with some dignity otherwise you'll be looking the idiot.

How many games has Lucas played compared to Alonso?

Amazed the Sheik fell for that monster of an argument.

Think you should consider what you say next as it could make you look quite the idiot. Just a friendly advise,
 
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So because you can come up with stats on two defenders that's pretty much identical in the games played ratio and age you can asume the two players are of equal quality?

Oh dear. I guess halfwits like yourself have had a say in our clubs dealings a few years to long, seems you've been well infected.

Where's the stats that actually COUNTS when it comes to defenders? I've been told bizillion of times on here it doesn't matter if a defender scores goals and now you are daft enough to try and prove that they are identical because they've got about the same goal to game ratio. (One's been scoring vital goals in Champions League semis and UEFA quarters btw).

How stupid are you? And how stupid are those posters liking your post? And how much a 'fucking moron' is Squitiggles for once again enter the frame with nothing but a stupid, childish snipe at me for questioning som papers rambling about Skrtel being worth £20M.

FYI: It's probably his agent trying to secure him a new deal and imo Skrtel should fucking know better. He can close the door behind him for all I care.

And Ryan, I'm always spot on when it comes to Agger.

Aaaaaaahhhh

*feels rejuvenated*

PS i_rushie can you please compare the quality of Lucas and Alonso to me as well now please. I want to see only their age, appearances and goals of course. Will make Lucas look a right belter just down Ryan's alley.

I don't even know what to say to you anymore.

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So because you can come up with stats on two defenders that's pretty much identical in the games played ratio and age you can asume the two players are of equal quality?

Oh dear. I guess halfwits like yourself have had a say in our clubs dealings a few years to long, seems you've been well infected.

Where's the stats that actually COUNTS when it comes to defenders? I've been told bizillion of times on here it doesn't matter if a defender scores goals and now you are daft enough to try and prove that they are identical because they've got about the same goal to game ratio. (One's been scoring vital goals in Champions League semis and UEFA quarters btw).

How stupid are you? And how stupid are those posters liking your post? And how much a 'fucking moron' is Squitiggles for once again enter the frame with nothing but a stupid, childish snipe at me for questioning som papers rambling about Skrtel being worth £20M.

FYI: It's probably his agent trying to secure him a new deal and imo Skrtel should fucking know better. He can close the door behind him for all I care.

And Ryan, I'm always spot on when it comes to Agger.

Aaaaaaahhhh

*feels rejuvenated*

PS i_rushie can you please compare the quality of Lucas and Alonso to me as well now please. I want to see only their age, appearances and goals of course. Will make Lucas look a right belter just down Ryan's alley.
The stats that matter for defenders are so subjective though. Based on partner, team form, oppoonent, which side of the partnership. We judge these players with our eyes. And as defenders they are very similar (height, age, skill) and both very very good. It happens to be that Skrtel is more reliable injury wise, stronger and faster. So he is definitely worth more in todays market.
 
I think KHL has a point. But Im biased.
Hello, Sweden calling.
Here are the results of the Swedish vote.
.....and 12 points go to.......Denmark
 
Fair enough. From what I see one is worth more than the other. We just don't agree on the subject.

See it's not that difficult to share opinions and you don't even have to be an ass about it.
 
Liverpool look set to challenge Manchester Utd for the prized signature of the highly touted Porto star James Rodriguez

The highly touted winger has been subjected of sustained interest from Man Utd, with the former Premier League champions reported to be lining up a £20 million bid for the 20 year old.

It would appear now that they will have a fight on their hands if they are to land Rodriguez’s signature with Liverpool rumored to be lining up their own bid for the winger, which is to be believed to be around the £23 million mark.

Rodriguez has already openly admitted that he is interested in a move to the Premier League. His agent, Silvio Sandri has also suggested a move is on the cards.

Speaking to newspaper O Jogo he said ‘There is nothing new to report. This is a matter to be discussed with Porto. Within a couple of weeks I plan to go to Portugal to speak with the leaders of Porto. I cannot talk more about this as it is so complex.’

Now this is an exciting rumour!

Would be a massive signing if we got him
 
So, is Martin Skrtel only worth 7-8 million pounds ?
I'm not touching this with a five foot pole.
All I'm gonna say is that I rate Agger more than Skrtel and I therefor think he's worth more.
How much more, that's for the footballing Gods to decide ie Man C.
 
Fair enough. From what I see one is worth more than the other. We just don't agree on the subject.

See it's not that difficult to share opinions and you don't even have to be an ass about it.
Oh I'm no ass, but you kind of called me out in your post so I had to display my point of view. These two players are very similar and great (difference in perception may be based on when they entered the spotlight, youve been following Agger forever, so the love is understandable). We should keep both. But who cares which one is worth more. A commodity is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay. If Skrtel wants to go to Man City I hope we get 50mil.
 
I'm not touching this with a five foot pole.
All I'm gonna say is that I rate Agger more than Skrtel and I therefor think he's worth more.
How much more, that's for the footballing Gods to decide ie Man C.

So you agree with his estimation ?
 
I'm not touching this with a five foot pole.
All I'm gonna say is that I rate Agger more than Skrtel and I therefor think he's worth more.
How much more, that's for the footballing Gods to decide ie Man C.
Hahaha... that's just so spot on.

Just don't go there. Themn and his army of valuation oracles will try and haunt you of the side with all the charm they can muster.

"HOW DARE YOU, FUCKING MORON, THEY ARE OF EQUAL AGE!"

It's so tiresome and to be honest kind of ruined my evening. I love this place, just not so much some of it's inhabitants.
 
Hahaha... that's just so spot on.

Just don't go there. Themn and his army of valuation oracles will try and haunt you of the side with all the charm they can muster.

"HOW DARE YOU, FUCKING MORON, THEY ARE OF EQUAL AGE!"

It's so tiresome and to be honest kind of ruined my evening. I love this place, just not so much some of it's inhabitants.

You said and keep saying that Martin Skrtel is only worth £7-8M.

YOUR WORDS.

Nobody kidnapped your parents and forced you to come out with it.
 
Just let it go eh?

Skrtel is worth 14-16 mill in todays market imho. If City or PSG come calling you can add 5-7 mill to that.

Move on.
 
Agger's a better player.
Skrtel used to be a liability. He still scares me with all the ridiculous shirt tugging in the penalty area, but he performed admirably last season.
I don't think keeping him is anywhere near as vital though as keeping Reina or Suarez or even Gerrard at the club. Our defensive record is usually great because of the way our teams in recent years have been set up. If Rodgers goes for a more open style, our defenders, whoever they may be, will be well exposed and look a little shitter. So again, if we get an inflated fee, sell him and find those attacking players that make the difference.
Coates, Agger, Carra and Kelly will do.
 
So because you can come up with stats on two defenders that's pretty much identical in the games played ratio and age you can asume the two players are of equal quality?

Oh dear. I guess halfwits like yourself have had a say in our clubs dealings a few years to long, seems you've been well infected.

Where's the stats that actually COUNTS when it comes to defenders? I've been told bizillion of times on here it doesn't matter if a defender scores goals and now you are daft enough to try and prove that they are identical because they've got about the same goal to game ratio. (One's been scoring vital goals in Champions League semis and UEFA quarters btw).

How stupid are you? And how stupid are those posters liking your post? And how much a 'fucking moron' is Squitiggles for once again enter the frame with nothing but a stupid, childish snipe at me for questioning som papers rambling about Skrtel being worth £20M.

FYI: It's probably his agent trying to secure him a new deal and imo Skrtel should fucking know better. He can close the door behind him for all I care.

And Ryan, I'm always spot on when it comes to Agger.

Aaaaaaahhhh

*feels rejuvenated*

PS i_rushie can you please compare the quality of Lucas and Alonso to me as well now please. I want to see only their age, appearances and goals of course. Will make Lucas look a right belter just down Ryan's alley.

Look if it helps your insecurity about Skrtel's status as pretender to Agger's throne at Anfield, no one in this thread is suggesting Agger's not a better footballer or that he isn't worth 20 million, only that objectively speaking, Skrtel and Agger are uncannily similar in several respects (subjectively speaking of course, we all know you think Agger's the best thing since sliced bread).

Evidently, you didn't see that what underpins my post was your own inconsistency in using certain reasons to justify how Skrtel's value had come down, yet fail to realize how those same reasons could easily be applied to Agger.

And with only two years left of his contract nearing in on 30 I don't think that's much flawed.

Besides, notwithstanding silly money offered by Man C, it makes no sense parting with your newly crowned player of the season (*snigger*) for 7, 8, 10 million (as you have already suggested you would), with his tried and tested excellent partnership with Agger for Agger's number one fanboy, who probably would work well with Agger (again, as you have suggested).

Kjaer has been quoted on several occasions saying that Agger is someone he admire and looks up to both on and off the pitch.

Probably would work that partnership

A couple of final points, it isn't about them have similar goals to games ratio. It's about Skrtel, the agricultural, inferior headless chicken playing more games and scoring two goals less in spite of being at LFC two years later than Agger. As for your point about vital CL and European goals, remind me what we won as a direct result of those goals, other than the game itself? Tell me about the goals again when an Agger goal rescues us in a Cup-final at Wembley and is one of two goals to hand us a Cup. Yes, that's right, a shiny, tangible, Mickey Mouse cup capable of empirical observation.

Try not to be so smug and resort to back-handed comments to disguise your embarrassment in your reply too. You really don't do yourself any favours.
 
Now I want to stay out of this but didn't one of Agger's goals get us to a CL final?
I hate what I'm about to do here but I think scoring against Chelsea at their peak in a CL semi is slightly "bigger" than scoring against Cardiff (a mid-level second tier team who today are wearing red because they sold their soul to the devil and are also pretty embarrassed while another Welsh team is tearing it up in Premiership).
 
The problem with arguing the toss over who's the better player is that you end up having to denigrate one to flatter the other. Far more sensible to admit that they're both excellent players in their own right, accept that khl is a bit mental, and get on with our lives.
 
The problem with arguing the toss over who's the better player is that you end up having to denigrate one to flatter the other. Far more sensible to admit that they're both excellent players in their own right, accept that khl is a bit mental, and get on with our lives.

Your levels of peacekeeping are wasted on here
 
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