Fucking hell! 2 balls, 2 4s. Pish.
THE ASHES... 2009
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Harmy. Telt ya, didn't I?
Strike that. England are bowling some proper shite.
18 runs off Onions' first over!!
18 runs off Onions' first over!!
I agree about Botham's bowling. I well remember test matches when he toiled for hours bowling total rubbish!
OK we all know Botham was a great cricketer, but he has been sanctified by the passage of time.
England supporters are accustomed to the situation where England have to bat out for a draw, and in that situation Botham was hopeless. He came to the wicket and swing his big heavy bat at every delivery that went whistling past him, until he was out.
OK we all know Botham was a great cricketer, but he has been sanctified by the passage of time.
England supporters are accustomed to the situation where England have to bat out for a draw, and in that situation Botham was hopeless. He came to the wicket and swing his big heavy bat at every delivery that went whistling past him, until he was out.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg901843#msg901843 date=1246973395]
[quote author=H link=topic=33622.msg901736#msg901736 date=1246964864]
nearly all the experts Ive heard have said how close this ashes test series will be, I guess you hear what you want to hear.
[/quote]
Correct. I think its been balanced to say the least.
Im not over confident myself. Our problem for years has been closing out games we should have won. So i see Australia battering us in ONE test and then us trying to knock them over for the other four.
Im going to say 1-1 Australia to retain thanks to our inability to take 10 wickets in a full days play.
[/quote]Yup.
[quote author=H link=topic=33622.msg901736#msg901736 date=1246964864]
nearly all the experts Ive heard have said how close this ashes test series will be, I guess you hear what you want to hear.
[/quote]
Correct. I think its been balanced to say the least.
Im not over confident myself. Our problem for years has been closing out games we should have won. So i see Australia battering us in ONE test and then us trying to knock them over for the other four.
Im going to say 1-1 Australia to retain thanks to our inability to take 10 wickets in a full days play.
[/quote]Yup.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33622.msg921341#msg921341 date=1249793687]
It was only a metter of time before Australia clicked.
England are too afraid to go and try to win the thing.
[/quote]
Yep.
Waving the bat.
It was only a metter of time before Australia clicked.
England are too afraid to go and try to win the thing.
[/quote]
Yep.
Waving the bat.
Great performance from Australia.
1-1
1-1
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg920304#msg920304 date=1249641992]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg920296#msg920296 date=1249641067]
The selecters refusal to replace players who are obviously and massively off form is going to cost us the ashes.
Ravi Bopara should have been removed after the second test.
Fucking shit. Now were waiting for Cooks usual failure. We're fucked.
[/quote]
Oncy you can't just drop these lads after a few failures mate, otherwise England would just be swapping and changing the team all of the time. Bopara scored 3 tons in the series before this and is potentially a very good player and Cook averaged 50+ in the 2nd test match.
Who would you bring in for these 2 if they were dropped?
[/quote]Strauss
Key
Bell
Shah
Collingwood
Flintoff
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Sidebottom
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg920296#msg920296 date=1249641067]
The selecters refusal to replace players who are obviously and massively off form is going to cost us the ashes.
Ravi Bopara should have been removed after the second test.
Fucking shit. Now were waiting for Cooks usual failure. We're fucked.
[/quote]
Oncy you can't just drop these lads after a few failures mate, otherwise England would just be swapping and changing the team all of the time. Bopara scored 3 tons in the series before this and is potentially a very good player and Cook averaged 50+ in the 2nd test match.
Who would you bring in for these 2 if they were dropped?
[/quote]Strauss
Key
Bell
Shah
Collingwood
Flintoff
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Sidebottom
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg921556#msg921556 date=1249826203]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg920304#msg920304 date=1249641992]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg920296#msg920296 date=1249641067]
The selecters refusal to replace players who are obviously and massively off form is going to cost us the ashes.
Ravi Bopara should have been removed after the second test.
Fucking shit. Now were waiting for Cooks usual failure. We're fucked.
[/quote]
Oncy you can't just drop these lads after a few failures mate, otherwise England would just be swapping and changing the team all of the time. Bopara scored 3 tons in the series before this and is potentially a very good player and Cook averaged 50+ in the 2nd test match.
Who would you bring in for these 2 if they were dropped?
[/quote]Strauss
Key
Bell
Shah
Collingwood
Flintoff
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Sidebottom
[/quote]
Well Key and Shah are both over 32 (i think), so thats a real short term solution mate + neither of them have exactly done well at Test level in the past.
It'll be interesting to see what England go with at the Oval. A win is a must so thats a dead cert 5 bowlers needed (hopefully Flintoff is fit)
I suspect that Ravi will get dropped for Trott and Harmison out for Freddie.
Assuming the weather is good, this test match should be a cracker (if England can post a score of course)
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg920304#msg920304 date=1249641992]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg920296#msg920296 date=1249641067]
The selecters refusal to replace players who are obviously and massively off form is going to cost us the ashes.
Ravi Bopara should have been removed after the second test.
Fucking shit. Now were waiting for Cooks usual failure. We're fucked.
[/quote]
Oncy you can't just drop these lads after a few failures mate, otherwise England would just be swapping and changing the team all of the time. Bopara scored 3 tons in the series before this and is potentially a very good player and Cook averaged 50+ in the 2nd test match.
Who would you bring in for these 2 if they were dropped?
[/quote]Strauss
Key
Bell
Shah
Collingwood
Flintoff
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Sidebottom
[/quote]
Well Key and Shah are both over 32 (i think), so thats a real short term solution mate + neither of them have exactly done well at Test level in the past.
It'll be interesting to see what England go with at the Oval. A win is a must so thats a dead cert 5 bowlers needed (hopefully Flintoff is fit)
I suspect that Ravi will get dropped for Trott and Harmison out for Freddie.
Assuming the weather is good, this test match should be a cracker (if England can post a score of course)
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg921593#msg921593 date=1249831823]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg921556#msg921556 date=1249826203]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg920304#msg920304 date=1249641992]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg920296#msg920296 date=1249641067]
The selecters refusal to replace players who are obviously and massively off form is going to cost us the ashes.
Ravi Bopara should have been removed after the second test.
Fucking shit. Now were waiting for Cooks usual failure. We're fucked.
[/quote]
Oncy you can't just drop these lads after a few failures mate, otherwise England would just be swapping and changing the team all of the time. Bopara scored 3 tons in the series before this and is potentially a very good player and Cook averaged 50+ in the 2nd test match.
Who would you bring in for these 2 if they were dropped?
[/quote]Strauss
Key
Bell
Shah
Collingwood
Flintoff
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Sidebottom
[/quote]
Well Key and Shah are both over 32 (i think), so thats a real short term solution mate + neither of them have exactly done well at Test level in the past.
It'll be interesting to see what England go with at the Oval. A win is a must so thats a dead cert 5 bowlers needed (hopefully Flintoff is fit)
I suspect that Ravi will get dropped for Trott and Harmison out for Freddie.
Assuming the weather is good, this test match should be a cracker (if England can post a score of course)
[/quote]Yup its short term. But here we are with one to play and our ENTIRE batting order out of nick.
Theres county games this week and everyone of the cunts better be playing to try and eke out a bit of form. Key, Ramprakash and Shah are playing well at county level and all have SOME experience for England.
Of course non of it will happen, but only Collingwood and Strauss have come through this tournament with any credibility intact. Bopara, Cook, Bell and Pieterson have been fucking jokes. Especially the first two given theyve had 8 goes each to play out.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg921556#msg921556 date=1249826203]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg920304#msg920304 date=1249641992]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg920296#msg920296 date=1249641067]
The selecters refusal to replace players who are obviously and massively off form is going to cost us the ashes.
Ravi Bopara should have been removed after the second test.
Fucking shit. Now were waiting for Cooks usual failure. We're fucked.
[/quote]
Oncy you can't just drop these lads after a few failures mate, otherwise England would just be swapping and changing the team all of the time. Bopara scored 3 tons in the series before this and is potentially a very good player and Cook averaged 50+ in the 2nd test match.
Who would you bring in for these 2 if they were dropped?
[/quote]Strauss
Key
Bell
Shah
Collingwood
Flintoff
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Sidebottom
[/quote]
Well Key and Shah are both over 32 (i think), so thats a real short term solution mate + neither of them have exactly done well at Test level in the past.
It'll be interesting to see what England go with at the Oval. A win is a must so thats a dead cert 5 bowlers needed (hopefully Flintoff is fit)
I suspect that Ravi will get dropped for Trott and Harmison out for Freddie.
Assuming the weather is good, this test match should be a cracker (if England can post a score of course)
[/quote]Yup its short term. But here we are with one to play and our ENTIRE batting order out of nick.
Theres county games this week and everyone of the cunts better be playing to try and eke out a bit of form. Key, Ramprakash and Shah are playing well at county level and all have SOME experience for England.
Of course non of it will happen, but only Collingwood and Strauss have come through this tournament with any credibility intact. Bopara, Cook, Bell and Pieterson have been fucking jokes. Especially the first two given theyve had 8 goes each to play out.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg921805#msg921805 date=1249891059]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg921593#msg921593 date=1249831823]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg921556#msg921556 date=1249826203]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg920304#msg920304 date=1249641992]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg920296#msg920296 date=1249641067]
The selecters refusal to replace players who are obviously and massively off form is going to cost us the ashes.
Ravi Bopara should have been removed after the second test.
Fucking shit. Now were waiting for Cooks usual failure. We're fucked.
[/quote]
Oncy you can't just drop these lads after a few failures mate, otherwise England would just be swapping and changing the team all of the time. Bopara scored 3 tons in the series before this and is potentially a very good player and Cook averaged 50+ in the 2nd test match.
Who would you bring in for these 2 if they were dropped?
[/quote]Strauss
Key
Bell
Shah
Collingwood
Flintoff
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Sidebottom
[/quote]
Well Key and Shah are both over 32 (i think), so thats a real short term solution mate + neither of them have exactly done well at Test level in the past.
It'll be interesting to see what England go with at the Oval. A win is a must so thats a dead cert 5 bowlers needed (hopefully Flintoff is fit)
I suspect that Ravi will get dropped for Trott and Harmison out for Freddie.
Assuming the weather is good, this test match should be a cracker (if England can post a score of course)
[/quote]Yup its short term. But here we are with one to play and our ENTIRE batting order out of nick.
Theres county games this week and everyone of the cunts better be playing to try and eke out a bit of form. Key, Ramprakash and Shah are playing well at county level and all have SOME experience for England.
Of course non of it will happen, but only Collingwood and Strauss have come through this tournament with any credibility intact. Bopara, Cook, Bell and Pieterson have been fucking jokes. Especially the first two given theyve had 8 goes each to play out.
[/quote]
It'll be interesting to see what changes they make, it's got to be a min of 2-3.
I think every England supporter knew that without KP and Freddie it would be near on impossible to win this series. Lets just hope that Freddie can work his magic one last time.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg921593#msg921593 date=1249831823]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg921556#msg921556 date=1249826203]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33622.msg920304#msg920304 date=1249641992]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg920296#msg920296 date=1249641067]
The selecters refusal to replace players who are obviously and massively off form is going to cost us the ashes.
Ravi Bopara should have been removed after the second test.
Fucking shit. Now were waiting for Cooks usual failure. We're fucked.
[/quote]
Oncy you can't just drop these lads after a few failures mate, otherwise England would just be swapping and changing the team all of the time. Bopara scored 3 tons in the series before this and is potentially a very good player and Cook averaged 50+ in the 2nd test match.
Who would you bring in for these 2 if they were dropped?
[/quote]Strauss
Key
Bell
Shah
Collingwood
Flintoff
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Sidebottom
[/quote]
Well Key and Shah are both over 32 (i think), so thats a real short term solution mate + neither of them have exactly done well at Test level in the past.
It'll be interesting to see what England go with at the Oval. A win is a must so thats a dead cert 5 bowlers needed (hopefully Flintoff is fit)
I suspect that Ravi will get dropped for Trott and Harmison out for Freddie.
Assuming the weather is good, this test match should be a cracker (if England can post a score of course)
[/quote]Yup its short term. But here we are with one to play and our ENTIRE batting order out of nick.
Theres county games this week and everyone of the cunts better be playing to try and eke out a bit of form. Key, Ramprakash and Shah are playing well at county level and all have SOME experience for England.
Of course non of it will happen, but only Collingwood and Strauss have come through this tournament with any credibility intact. Bopara, Cook, Bell and Pieterson have been fucking jokes. Especially the first two given theyve had 8 goes each to play out.
[/quote]
It'll be interesting to see what changes they make, it's got to be a min of 2-3.
I think every England supporter knew that without KP and Freddie it would be near on impossible to win this series. Lets just hope that Freddie can work his magic one last time.
[quote author=Portly link=topic=33622.msg920964#msg920964 date=1249733678]
I agree about Botham's bowling. I well remember test matches when he toiled for hours bowling total rubbish!
OK we all know Botham was a great cricketer, but he has been sanctified by the passage of time.
England supporters are accustomed to the situation where England have to bat out for a draw, and in that situation Botham was hopeless. He came to the wicket and swing his big heavy bat at every delivery that went whistling past him, until he was out.
[/quote]
Haha, apt description but when he scores, he scores big!
I agree about Botham's bowling. I well remember test matches when he toiled for hours bowling total rubbish!
OK we all know Botham was a great cricketer, but he has been sanctified by the passage of time.
England supporters are accustomed to the situation where England have to bat out for a draw, and in that situation Botham was hopeless. He came to the wicket and swing his big heavy bat at every delivery that went whistling past him, until he was out.
[/quote]
Haha, apt description but when he scores, he scores big!
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg925137#msg925137 date=1250411907]
Ravi out, Trott in.
Why has it taken 8 innings to decide he was off form!
Bolted.horse.stable.door
[/quote]
That puts a ridiculous amount of pressure on Trott for the last game of the Series.
Ravi out, Trott in.
Why has it taken 8 innings to decide he was off form!
Bolted.horse.stable.door
[/quote]
That puts a ridiculous amount of pressure on Trott for the last game of the Series.
[quote author=leftpeg link=topic=33622.msg925165#msg925165 date=1250415593]
I would have gone for Key.
[/quote]
although there is no doubt key can bat peggy, he is a disgrace to professional sport. He is a big fat fucker, how the fuck can a pro be so fat is beyond me. He could not run for the ball to save a four or a quick run out. England banned Rashid as he was too fat recently so they can hardly play Key who is even fatter.
Aussies would have an easy sledging opportunity there
I would have gone for Key.
[/quote]
although there is no doubt key can bat peggy, he is a disgrace to professional sport. He is a big fat fucker, how the fuck can a pro be so fat is beyond me. He could not run for the ball to save a four or a quick run out. England banned Rashid as he was too fat recently so they can hardly play Key who is even fatter.
Aussies would have an easy sledging opportunity there
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=33622.msg926805#msg926805 date=1250551209]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg925137#msg925137 date=1250411907]
Ravi out, Trott in.
Why has it taken 8 innings to decide he was off form!
Bolted.horse.stable.door
[/quote]
That puts a ridiculous amount of pressure on Trott for the last game of the Series.
[/quote]
It's OK, he can handle it. He's South African.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg925137#msg925137 date=1250411907]
Ravi out, Trott in.
Why has it taken 8 innings to decide he was off form!
Bolted.horse.stable.door
[/quote]
That puts a ridiculous amount of pressure on Trott for the last game of the Series.
[/quote]
It's OK, he can handle it. He's South African.
[quote author=Fox link=topic=33622.msg926905#msg926905 date=1250580076] He is a big fat fucker, how the fuck can a pro be so fat is beyond me. He could not run for the ball to save a four or a quick run out. England banned Rashid as he was too fat recently so they can hardly play Key who is even fatter.
[/quote]
Cricket is a sport in which being a big fat fucker, albeit a disadvantage, doesn't rule you out completely. Some heroes from the past like Colin Milburn have been rotund. There are even some tubby bowlers around who often have their day!
It's like in the amateur matches when a big fat middle-aged guy comes to the crease. The fielding side snigger, whereupon the old fat guy twats the ball to the boundary in all directions!
;D
[/quote]
Cricket is a sport in which being a big fat fucker, albeit a disadvantage, doesn't rule you out completely. Some heroes from the past like Colin Milburn have been rotund. There are even some tubby bowlers around who often have their day!
It's like in the amateur matches when a big fat middle-aged guy comes to the crease. The fielding side snigger, whereupon the old fat guy twats the ball to the boundary in all directions!
;D
God im shitting my pants.
I think when alls said and done, the momentum has switched so much that it really is Australias to lose. And as i've suspected all along, we'll struggle to take all 20 wickets, which you would imagine will be more difficult than ever with the Aussi's remit undoubtably will be 'Dont give your wicket away easily'.
Its going to take a hell of a performance from England to take the urn and if im honest i dont see it.
1-1
Man of the series. M.Clarke, a truly great player.
I think when alls said and done, the momentum has switched so much that it really is Australias to lose. And as i've suspected all along, we'll struggle to take all 20 wickets, which you would imagine will be more difficult than ever with the Aussi's remit undoubtably will be 'Dont give your wicket away easily'.
Its going to take a hell of a performance from England to take the urn and if im honest i dont see it.
1-1
Man of the series. M.Clarke, a truly great player.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33622.msg927521#msg927521 date=1250641585]
God im shitting my pants.
I think when alls said and done, the momentum has switched so much that it really is Australias to lose. And as i've suspected all along, we'll struggle to take all 20 wickets, which you would imagine will be more difficult than ever with the Aussi's remit undoubtably will be 'Dont give your wicket away easily'.
Its going to take a hell of a performance from England to take the urn and if im honest i dont see it.
1-1
Man of the series. M.Clarke, a truly great player.
[/quote]
Yup, he's been excellent.
God im shitting my pants.
I think when alls said and done, the momentum has switched so much that it really is Australias to lose. And as i've suspected all along, we'll struggle to take all 20 wickets, which you would imagine will be more difficult than ever with the Aussi's remit undoubtably will be 'Dont give your wicket away easily'.
Its going to take a hell of a performance from England to take the urn and if im honest i dont see it.
1-1
Man of the series. M.Clarke, a truly great player.
[/quote]
Yup, he's been excellent.
[quote author=Fox link=topic=33622.msg927619#msg927619 date=1250670879]
[size=10pt]WOHOO, I have just got a ticket for tomorrows play at the oval, get in[/size].
Weather looks ok now so at least we could have a 5 day match, should be a cracker.
[/quote]
The Lying Rag may be cracking the fucking flags all day everyday, but even so that's optimistic.
[size=10pt]WOHOO, I have just got a ticket for tomorrows play at the oval, get in[/size].
Weather looks ok now so at least we could have a 5 day match, should be a cracker.
[/quote]
The Lying Rag may be cracking the fucking flags all day everyday, but even so that's optimistic.
