Summer rebuild 2023

[bluebell]

Alvarez is available in our sweet spot of 30-40m euros

Which Alvarez?

 

[peekay]

Which Alvarez?

Doesnt matter which one. All of them seem to be decent at football.

 

[Frogfish]

Well, that chops down that idea.

I'd say razed it to the ground !

 

[Frogfish]

I think this makes sense. However, Klopp is on record as saying that he wants all our summer signings to be available for the full pre-season programme, and if he's looking to integrate players straight away then he will need as much time as possible to work with them. But if the remaining players we're going after will be squaddies rather than potential starters in our first game of the season then we can wait to sign them and integrate them later. It's not ideal, but it may make our budget stretch a bit for the reasons you set out.
I also wonder whether we need to make some sales to pay for what we've already done (or what else we plan to do). Our revenues will fall off a cliff next year with no CL so unless we're also going to see huge drops in the wage bill on the same basis then I think we've probably spent most of our budget already.

I think he also added an "if possible" and "there may be exceptions". Paraphrasing.

 

[Frogfish]

Our last reported match day income (for 2021-22 when we played every game possible) was £83m. That's gross income. There'll be a chunky cost of sale coming off that (principally for hospitality) and that figure probably includes catering, retail etc.
Also bear in mind that punters paying for a seasonal hospitality package get those extra games for free - and there's a good chance that the extra costs of running those hospitality packages (provision of food, stewarding etc) wipe out a lot of the extra money we make on ticket sales for non-hospitality packages, especially for domestic cups where we pay half of the seat-only revenue to the away club.
There's no way a few concerts add another £60m - we only have a licence for six nights a year (and we've only done 3 nights the last few years). £10-20m each? Not a chance. And even if they did, that would be gross ticket sales, before paying chunky stewarding costs and huge fees to the kinds of artists who could fill the stadium.
I reckon the concerts won't be adding more than a few £m to our bottom line.
It's the same with pre-season - we're fed all these amazing top-line revenue figures in the media and made to think that pre-season is hugely profitable, but no-one mentions the costs of chartering a 747 for a week or putting the players up in massively expensive hotels, plus the costs of taking loads of club staff along, to say nothing of taxes and levies that we pay overseas and huge commissions to local operators.

Not just concerts ... boxing. A good boxing card can fill a stadium.

 

[The Nomad]

Which Alvarez?

Edson.

 

[Hansern]

He's not good enough.

 

[Best Believe It]

We'll have to sign a slot straight in DM if Fabinho is going. Lavia would be a good signing but he's not one that can be counted on in that way. If there's any chance of getting Tchouameni we should be all in

 

[Fabio]

We'll have to sign a slot straight in DM if Fabinho is going. Lavia would be a good signing but he's not one that can be counted on in that way. If there's any chance of getting Tchouameni we should be all in

Problem with tchouameni is that that would completely wipe us out, when we probably need another cm and CB if hendo goes

 

[Best Believe It]

Problem with tchouameni is that that would completely wipe us out, when we probably need another cm and CB if hendo goes

We had the money to sign Lavia and Colwill before the Fabinho and Henderson stories came out. Lavia wasn't the case that we couldn't afford £50m, we just don't want to pay it. I suspect we could afford Lavia, Colwill and Tchouameni if those two leave.

 

[moron]

Problem with tchouameni is that that would completely wipe us out, when we probably need another cm and CB if hendo goes

Is he really that good ? I doubt it, looks pretty shit to me.

 

[moron]

Doesnt matter which one. All of them seem to be decent at football.

This is a great idea, makes it easier for the scouts, "whats your name ?" ... "Tchoumaini"..."nah sorry mate we only sign Alvarez's at Liverpool, it means more"

 

[keniget]

Not exactly like for like but who would you prefer given the choice, Tchouaméni or Valverde?

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Not exactly like for like but who would you prefer given the choice, Tchouaméni or Valverde?

Not fussed - both young, both high energy, both ridiculously talented, and either - I think - would make our midfield world class.

 

[bluebell]

Not exactly like for like but who would you prefer given the choice, Tchouaméni or Valverde?

Valverde is the closest player to Stevie G I have ever seen. Tchoumeni is one of the best 6 out there.
Youssef Fofana from Monaco and Thuram
With possibly 3 experienced players leaving, you need players that have time (on their side) and maturity. Youssef Fofana would cost about £25m.

 

[Hansern]

Tchouameni

 

[binomial]

Not exactly like for like but who would you prefer given the choice, Tchouaméni or Valverde?

Valverde 100%

But I think Valverde is somewhat similiar (maybe not in style but position) to what Szobo is.....Tchuoa would be closer to what we need but in terms of who the all round better player is, easily Valverde.

 

[bluebell]

I trust Klopp to get it right!

 

[binomial]

I trust Klopp to get it right!

He has to.

Nobody else will.

 

[bluebell]

He has to.

Nobody else will.

*as long he gets the funds too

 

[binomial]

*as long he gets the funds too

Well he's had 95m already, I reckon with another 50m + whatever sales we get he can make us champions next season (of some sort)

 

[bluebell]

Well he's had 95m already, I reckon with another 50m + whatever sales we get he can make us champions next season (of some sort)

lets say another £115m with the departure of. Go and spend. You're allowed upto 3 OS players
Nats
Thiago
Fabs
Hendo

 

[StevieM]

You know that thing FSG do where they spend what the bring in and they’ve spent £95m on Slobberchops & Mac.

Well…

Hendo - £10m
Fabs - £40m
Phillips - £10m
Thiago - £10m
Kelleher - £25m
TOTAL - £95m

…. and we’re done…. That’s all folks!!!

 

[StevieM]

We had the money to sign Lavia and Colwill before the Fabinho and Henderson stories came out. Lavia wasn't the case that we couldn't afford £50m, we just don't want to pay it. I suspect we could afford Lavia, Colwill and Tchouameni if those two leave.

I’d love to believe you but I don’t.

 

[bluebell]

You know that thing FSG do where they spend what the bring in and they’ve spent £95m on Slobberchops & Mac.

Well…

Hendo - £10m
Fabs - £40m
Phillips - £10m
Thiago - £10m
Kelleher - £25m
TOTAL - £95m

…. and we’re done…. That’s all folks!!!

When did you become FSG -VE

 

[Fabio]

I’d love to believe you but I don’t.

I think we've probably had enough for lavia before the sales, but we're relying on Southampton coming down in price.

We probably have....35m?

 

[Modo]

Going by history, Southampton usually don't mess around when it comes to transfers. We had to pay up to get Virg and it turned into a mess before that.

So, I kinda think it's time for us to move on.

 

[Hansern]

 

[StevieM]

When did you become FSG -VE

When I’m making points for comedic value and not being entirely serious.

 

[Modo]

[James Pearce] Transfer business done early, LFC returned to pre-season with a solid base to work from. Landscape has shifted considerably as a result of Saudi interest. Now uncertainty reigns. It’s been an eventful week and still no clarity about what happens now