Suarez

[Halmeister]

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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46964.msg1403394#msg1403394 date=1316695996]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=46964.msg1403391#msg1403391 date=1316695776]
Afonso Alves, Mateja Kezman
[/quote]Hes ten times the player either of them are though ay?
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Yeh of course. But just because you're prolific in Holland doesn't always certify you as a natural goalscorer elsewhere.
[/quote]Well exactly we're singing from the same hymn sheet.
But if you looked at those three players at 23 and said which one has the potential to become a prolific goal getter in the prem.....
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True. I'll be honest, though, I thought Kezman would be great for Chelsea. He was 24/25 when he moved to Chelsea and scored 105 goals in 122 games for PSV. It really is a pot luck when it comes to signing strikers from the Eredivisie it seems.

Yeah, Cerb, I didn't mean it to come across as snot-nosed as it did. In my opinion I don't think he'll be a 30 goal a season striker for us - and I have no problem with that, especially if his perfomances continue to be top class and he carries on creating the chances. I said it earlier on in the thread, but we'd benefit from a natural goalscorer up top while Suarez buzzes around him harrying opponents and creating space for chances. It's a real shame Torres didn't fancy linking up with him.

 

[Shadey]

Anyone know what was the longest he went without scoring for PSV?

 

[SaintGeorge67]

A fair old while I'd imagine considering he played for Ajax 😉

 

[Shadey]

[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=46964.msg1403485#msg1403485 date=1316704324]
A fair old while I'd imagine considering he played for Ajax 😉
[/quote]haha wot a plonker i am SG..

 

[themn]

[quote author=Shadey link=topic=46964.msg1403491#msg1403491 date=1316704910]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=46964.msg1403485#msg1403485 date=1316704324]
A fair old while I'd imagine considering he played for Ajax 😉
[/quote]haha wot a plonker i am SG..
[/quote]

That's poorer than The Little Match Girl, son.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

[quote author=themn link=topic=46964.msg1403223#msg1403223 date=1316649104]
To quote Graham Taylor,

"What sort of thing is happening here ?".
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What have they been instructed?

You know it, don't you? You know.

 

[themn]

[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=46964.msg1403495#msg1403495 date=1316705379]
[quote author=themn link=topic=46964.msg1403223#msg1403223 date=1316649104]
To quote Graham Taylor,

"What sort of thing is happening here ?".
[/quote]

What have they been instructed?

You know it, don't you? You know.
[/quote]

Hahahahahahaaa !

 

[Y1]

[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=46964.msg1403290#msg1403290 date=1316681369]
Blimey it does not take much to sway peoples opinions on here these days.
We used to be a far less impatient, much more tolerant site, and differed from the others because we were not so knee jerk and were prepared to give players a chance,and cut them a bit of slack but ...
regards
[/quote]

I think all the losing and not winning anything that has made a bitch out of all of us

 

[Rosco]

[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=46964.msg1403388#msg1403388 date=1316695597]
Do you think he's "capable" of being clinical Oncey? 49 goals in 48 games for Ajax in 09/10 (albeit in the Dutch league) is impressive.
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The best explanation of the Dutch league and goals is to consider them to be like dog years.

 

[spider-Neil]

why is saying suarez isn't clinical is seen as writing him off?

 

[Gary25]

This thread is a bit nuts, what are you like lads :laugh: :laugh:

Think it's fair to say Suarez isn't the most natural of finishers that's for sure. When he goes through on goal, hes not totally convincing.
Different to other great strikers we've had - Rush, Aldo, Fowler, Owen(vomits), Torres(vomits)...when them guys were one on one with the keeper you knew that 9 times out 10 they'd hit the net. Ruthless.

He reminds me so much of Tevez who's arguably not a natural finisher himself. Great players though and they'll still chip in with their fair share of goals. Different strikers have different qualities.

 

[doctor_mac]

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46964.msg1403513#msg1403513 date=1316708786]
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=46964.msg1403388#msg1403388 date=1316695597]
Do you think he's "capable" of being clinical Oncey? 49 goals in 48 games for Ajax in 09/10 (albeit in the Dutch league) is impressive.
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The best explanation of the Dutch league and goals is to consider them to be like dog years.
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Ha.

 

[Cerberus]

[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=46964.msg1403557#msg1403557 date=1316721608]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46964.msg1403513#msg1403513 date=1316708786]
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=46964.msg1403388#msg1403388 date=1316695597]
Do you think he's "capable" of being clinical Oncey? 49 goals in 48 games for Ajax in 09/10 (albeit in the Dutch league) is impressive.
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The best explanation of the Dutch league and goals is to consider them to be like dog years.
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Ha.
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;D ;D ;D

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Re: Gary's post, this was my point. There was a post in the match thread saying he's a "shit" finisher.

Just because you're not Robbie Fowler, you're not a "shit" finisher. Inconsistent, sure. Awkward/erratic, fine. Shit, fuck off.

 

[cloggypop]

You must remember of course that he was only moved more central after Huntelaar was sold .

 

[Fabio]

I've always wanted him on the right of a front 3, not behind. Downing----Carroll-----Suarez combo could be amazing

 

[gene hughes]

Oncy is right, Suarez is over-rated.

 

[Modo]

He's gonna get a hatrick against wolves. Believe that.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

you don't need to be a natural goalscorer to have a great season or two in a row ... just ask Fernando TOrres.

 

[Fabio]

[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=46964.msg1403624#msg1403624 date=1316755574]
you don't need to be a natural goalscorer to have a great season or two in a row ... just ask Fernando Torres.
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shit son! Worms be flying errywhere

 

[Wizardry]

[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46964.msg1403599#msg1403599 date=1316731518]
I've always wanted him on the right of a front 3, not behind. Downing----Carroll-----Suarez combo could be amazing
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I'd like to see Suarez, Kuyt, Bellers playing together. On paper it would be Suarez, Carroll, Bellamy but Kuyt does so much work in defense and, playing three attackers, I think we'd need that desperately.

Beyond that I think Downing is nailed on as a starter whenever fit, Gerrard speaks for himself.

Enrique, Carra, Agger, Kelly/Johnson

Reina.

When fit these guys look like they've claimed a starting spot and will be hard to shift.

That would just leave one spot left which I think comes down to Lucas or Adam. I can't see us leaving Adam out after all the talk on his delivery and filling the position of Alonso which I think is going to cause us issues since I believe Lucas is more valuable to us than Adam at this point.

 

[Sunny]

[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46964.msg1403607#msg1403607 date=1316734992]
Oncy is right, Suarez is over-rated.
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Yeh, we should sell him.

 

[Mystic]

[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=46964.msg1403640#msg1403640 date=1316764678]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=46964.msg1403599#msg1403599 date=1316731518]
I've always wanted him on the right of a front 3, not behind. Downing----Carroll-----Suarez combo could be amazing
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I'd like to see Suarez, Kuyt, Bellers playing together. On paper it would be Suarez, Carroll, Bellamy but Kuyt does so much work in defense and, playing three attackers, I think we'd need that desperately.

Beyond that I think Downing is nailed on as a starter whenever fit, Gerrard speaks for himself.

Enrique, Carra, Agger, Kelly/Johnson

Reina.

When fit these guys look like they've claimed a starting spot and will be hard to shift.

That would just leave one spot left which I think comes down to Lucas or Adam. I can't see us leaving Adam out after all the talk on his delivery and filling the position of Alonso which I think is going to cause us issues since I believe Lucas is more valuable to us than Adam at this point.
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Me too, i'd like to see this, but it's unfair on Downing who doesn't deserve to be dropped, he's not set the world on fire, but he's been good. But those three upfront will be fantastic. Or even Carroll for Kuyt.

 

[the count]

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=46964.msg1403641#msg1403641 date=1316765092]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46964.msg1403607#msg1403607 date=1316734992]
Oncy is right, Suarez is over-rated.
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Yeh, we should sell him.
[/quote]before his value drops

 

[The Slugmonster]

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46964.msg1403513#msg1403513 date=1316708786]
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=46964.msg1403388#msg1403388 date=1316695597]
Do you think he's "capable" of being clinical Oncey? 49 goals in 48 games for Ajax in 09/10 (albeit in the Dutch league) is impressive.
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The best explanation of the Dutch league and goals is to consider them to be like dog years.
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Exceptional Ross.......hahaha

 

[gene hughes]

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=46964.msg1403641#msg1403641 date=1316765092]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46964.msg1403607#msg1403607 date=1316734992]
Oncy is right, Suarez is over-rated.
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Yeh, we should sell him.
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=46964.msg1403641#msg1403641 date=1316765092]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=46964.msg1403607#msg1403607 date=1316734992]
Oncy is right, Suarez is over-rated.
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Yeh, we should sell him.
[/quote]before his value drops
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*taps side of head*

Now you're thinking like a Director of Football.

 

[King Binny]

Luis Suarez ended 272 minutes without a Premier League goal when he scored against Wolves.

He has scored seven goals in his first 19 league games. Fernando Torres scored 11 in the same period.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Modo link=topic=46964.msg1403608#msg1403608 date=1316737559]
He's gonna get a hatrick against wolves. Believe that.
[/quote]He certainly could have had.

 

[HC]

He'll still get 20 + league goals this season.

 

[Hansern]

[quote author=Binny link=topic=46964.msg1405864#msg1405864 date=1317146507]
Luis Suarez ended 272 minutes without a Premier League goal when he scored against Wolves.

He has scored seven goals in his first 19 league games. Fernando Torres scored 11 in the same period.
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Torres has 3 in 25 games for Chelsea though. So of the two Suarez has definetly had the better start....