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Stevie might be off

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rubans said:
If Henderson needs a club legend to leave who is getting towards retirement then it doesn't bode well for Henderson as a future leader for LFC, which he isn't anyway I don't think. There's a simple reason why Gerrard plays every minute of every PL Game, because we have no one else at the club currently to step up. Does anyone really feel that dropping Gerrard would address the current side's short coming, would we concede any less? Score any more? Control the midfield ? I really don't see it. Midfield needs major investment next summer.
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Henderson shines even more when Gerrard isn't there.

Whether it's out of respect for him meaning he doesn't cover as much ground I effective areas, some weird psychological block meaning he feels he can't match up to him, or something else more mundane like him not playing in the position he'd normally like, I don't know, but it's true.

He's certainly more of a captain on the pitch than Stevie has ever been.
 
If we look past sentiment, he is at that stage where he plays in a position that we could quite easily fill with a better player. If we want to progress as a club that is what we need to do - replace current players with better players when the opportunity to do so arises.

Another club will offer him a much bigger wedge that we will and he'd be right to sign. He wants to play, but he isn't at the level anymore where he can be the focal point of a midfield in a team looking to challenge for and ultimately win the title.

Fucking love the guy - he has been the best footballer around consistently through my lifetime of watching LFC and he's been central in literally every great moment. Lets not tarnish that by trying to keep wheeling him out to DM where he gets targeted by agile and speedy opposition.
 
I love the guy to bits. And still think he should be here for a while yet. But his timing has pissed me right off. Confidence low, shitty results, and now the captain saying he may do one.
Why make it public? Winds me up.
 
And yet again it's from an interview with Geoff bloody Shreeves. Why are they so matey with this guttersnipe? They're like kids flocking towards a Jimmy Savile pop-up sweet shop.
 
Mom; that's why I asked if anyone knew whether he's still with the same agents who tried to help Mourinho get him before. If he is, I'll bet they're behind this.
 
gkmacca said:
And yet again it's from an interview with Geoff bloody Shreeves. Why are they so matey with this guttersnipe? They're like kids flocking towards a Jimmy Savile pop-up sweet shop.
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Quite. You'd have thought his treatment of the King would have been enough to put him beyond the pale. If someone that size can be fully beyond anything, that is.
 
It's a pity Ivanovic didn't knock Shreeves out that time he persisted in 'informing' Ivanovic that he would miss out on the CL final.
 
he will play one more season for sure. As the season goes, he will improves as always. I think in last 2-3 seasons, he has always started slow and lazy
 
Judge Jules said:
Mom; that's why I asked if anyone knew whether he's still with the same agents who tried to help Mourinho get him before. If he is, I'll bet they're behind this.
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Stevie is not a child. He has his own mind and can therefore take responsibility for what he says. I don't think it's that big a deal, personally, but I think Stevie's been around long enough to make informed decisions without getting a script from his agent.
 
Judge Jules said:
Mom; that's why I asked if anyone knew whether he's still with the same agents who tried to help Mourinho get him before. If he is, I'll bet they're behind this.
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Quite possibly. Or it's just posturing for a bigger better deal and soon. Now that he's made it public, he knows the fans will be all eyes on the club to keep their captain. The pressure is on the owners.
 
StevieM said:
Name a few?
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I think it's harder to name legends who ended their career at Liverpool.

But like @gkmacca said, Swansea is one of them. Toshack, Smith, Callaghan went there.
Thommo joined Sheffield.
Rush, as all of us over thirty know, went to Leeds.
Barnes joined Charlton, I think.
Do I need to mention were Kennedy, McDermott, Souness etc went?


The only players I can recall retiring at the club were Hansen, Dalglish and Carra.
 
As long as he doesn't sign for NY city and get loaded back to Man City I'm fine with it. Wanna see him lift a couple more trophies though
 
Delinquent said:
Stevie is not a child. He has his own mind and can therefore take responsibility for what he says. I don't think it's that big a deal, personally, but I think Stevie's been around long enough to make informed decisions without getting a script from his agent.
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Stevie would hardly be the first player who had subcontracted to his agent decisions on what to say and how to say it. He's certainly old enough to make his own mind up, but aren't they all? I seriously doubt he or most other players would make a statement as potentially disruptive as this one without agent input at the very least.
 
Modo said:
I think it's harder to name legends who ended their career at Liverpool.

But like @gkmacca said, Swansea is one of them. Toshack, Smith, Callaghan went there.
Thommo joined Sheffield.
Rush, as all of us over thirty know, went to Leeds.
Barnes joined Charlton, I think.
Do I need to mention were Kennedy, McDermott, Souness etc went?


The only players I can recall retiring at the club were Hansen, Dalglish and Carra.
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Yes, Sir Roger Hunt went to Bolton. St John to Tranmere. Emlyn Hughes to Wolves. Clemence to Spurs.
 
I agree with MOM.

As for Steve, he'll be here for another year. Hes still got plenty to offer on the field. Maybe not as a DM. But plenty to offer going forward.
 
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How could he leave a city that asked him wear an outfit like this?
 
WTF? People actually wouldn't be overly disappointed if he left? I can't believe what I'm reading.

Fuck off. He's a club legend who has spend his entire career at Liverpool. Fair enough, he's not the player he once was, but he's scored/assisted 30 odd goals last season. He carried us for years when we were complete fucking muck. His passion for the club is probably the best I have seen in my lifetime. He eats, sleeps and breathes Liverpool. Steven Gerrard is exactly what Liverpool FC is all about.
 
The club owes him for basically carrying us during the noughties.
Give the man what he wants.
 
It would be ludicrous if he left, for the multiple reasons mentioned above. This should have been dealt with already internally.
 
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jexykrodic said:
Yes, given his background and history he should be offered nothing but stark choices. He's brought it on himself.
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Whats his background got to do with anything, so hes a Scouser, great lets just make him captain for life then. He should take a significant pay cut based on his status relative to his last deal. If hes okay with that great, if hes not and somebody in the US or where ever is willing to offer him what he wants then fair enough. Hes had a great career with us but its a law of diminishing returns at this point and we have to be realistic about that, there is no point in paying him massive wages just to have him on the books as our highest earner sitting on the bench.
 
Independent:

Liverpool are set to agree a long-term deal with Steven Gerrard that will keep the Reds captain at Anfield until the end of his career.

The new deal is expected to be announced after Liverpool's Premier League clash against Newcastle United today.

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has already made it clear to Gerrard he wants him at the club beyond this season. The same message was relayed by the club hierarchy to the player's agent yesterday in the wake of an interview given by Gerrard that intimated his future may be away from Anfield.

The Irish Independent has learned the Liverpool hierarchy met Gerrard's agents last night to finalise a deal to keep the captain at the club.

A club source told this newspaper: "It had always been the club's plan to sign up Steven, but given his comments yesterday that deal will be done immediately."

However, with Gerrard set to turn 35 before his contract expires next summer, the midfielder could be faced with the prospect of playing fewer games for the club.

Gerrard said earlier this week it was "Liverpool's decision" whether he remained at his boyhood club and those comments prompted a positive response at boardroom level as well as the manager's office.

Rodgers documented his desire for Gerrard to stay ahead of Liverpool's Champions League game in Basel last month. "It is something we are looking at as a club, and with Steven and how he feels," Rodgers said in early October. "He is still in a real good physical condition. He's 34, he trains every day, he never needs a day's rest. He wants to work."

The question has been whether Rodgers' view was shared at the highest level at Anfield, but it is understood that is the case.
 
So we should. He's been a fantastic servant to the club and probably the best we've had in terms of quality over a long period of years. The issue isn't that he's past it and shouldn't be played, it's that the manager needs to protect him more and be more selective about when he plays and what his role is, that's the crucial point. It's too easy for idiots to say he's "shit now" or whatever.

For all his being "past it", he's still up there in the assist charts for us and overall in the league every season.
 
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