Skrtel

[LeTallecWiz]

I really don't know what the fuck you are trying to insinuate here

RM has been very very negative the last few months. Like another poster, 99% of his posts either revolve around "waste of money" (Carroll, Adam etc), "No trust in the team to buy good players," or "We're shit, we're going to relegated."

** 99% of this post has been an exaggeration, but only to highlight a point **

 

[Delinquent]

"to almost double Brendan Rodgers’ summer transfer kitty". So they're suggesting his initial budget is less than £20m? #Readingbetweenthelines

Try reading beyond the first couple of lines mate. 😉

 

[King Binny]

Try reading beyond the first couple of lines mate. 😉

My bad indeed. 😛

"It is understood the war chest will be around £30m so Skrtel’s extra £20m will prove to be a welcome bonus for Rodgers"

 

[red_maradona]

I really don't know what the fuck you are trying to insinuate here

i'm trying to reinforce the 2 points: don't sell good players expecting to buy better ones because we don't and our recent high money expenditure has been on inflated british talent. conclusion: don't sell, if you do sell and buy big, don't buy british.

 

[red_maradona]

RM has been very very negative the last few months. Like another poster, 99% of his posts either revolve around "waste of money" (Carroll, Adam etc), "No trust in the team to buy good players," or "We're shit, we're going to relegated."

** 99% of this post has been an exaggeration, but only to highlight a point **

uncannily accurate ;-) except for the part about relegation.

 

[RolandG]

I'm just wondering how much is available in our transfer kitty. £30M seems very lttle. Needless to say that there's so many conflicting reports out there.

Suarez is untouchable but we looking to bring in Huntelaar as his replacement in another story.

 

[Judge Jules]

£30 mill.sounds plausible to me, and IMO should be enough provided (a) it's supplemented by some sale proceeds and (b) it's used sensibly. Last season's squad should be able to improve drastically (if handled right) even as it stands, never mind after a good transfer window.

 

[SummerOnions]

£30 mill.sounds plausible to me, and IMO should be enough provided (a) it's supplemented by some sale proceeds and (b) it's used sensibly. Last season's squad should be able to improve drastically (if handled right) even as it stands, never mind after a good transfer window.

Exactly JJ, I don't think we need a major overhaul to get places

 

[Modo]

£30 Million buys us 5 Agger's.
It's all about how we spend the cash.

We don't need a complete overhaul but we need at least 2 new players in the starting line up and a couple of decent replacements. So at least 4 new players.
Adam and Downing need to go.

 

[the count]

£30 Million buys us 5 Agger's.
.

It's not like you to try and stir the pot Modo

 

[Modo]

It's not like you to try and stir the pot Modo

He was bought for £6 Million and is a world class defender.
5x6 = 30
Pick anyone else if it makes you happy. I just knew that Agger was bought for £6 Million.
OK forget Agger. £30 Millions buys us 6 Lucas.

 

[Fabio]

30m buys us infinite gerrards

 

[Modo]

30m buys us infinite gerrards

Good point. Promote Suso, Sterling, Adorjan and Robinson.

 

[Frogfish]

It's not like you to try and stir the pot Modo

hahaha - it had me laughing the moment I read it.

 

[the count]

He was bought for £6 Million and is a world class defender.
5x6 = 30
Pick anyone else if it makes you happy. I just new that Agger was bought for £6 Million.
OK forget Agger. £30 Millions buys us 6 Lucas.

And then innocence gets protested.
If nothing else you are predictable Modo

 

[Rosco]

lol @ £30m seems very little. I'll be surprised if there's much money available at all without sales. Maybe 10-15m at most.

Given we've got Coates pretty much ready to step in, Carra as back up. If a silly offer comes in for either Agger or Skrtel, it makes some sense to pull the trigger.

I've seen people describe Agger and Skrtel as the best centre back pairing we've had in a decade in a year where we've conceded 40 goals and finished eight.

We're not that far away from a number of years where we routinely allowed less than 30 goals against us in the league.

 

[Red Astaire]

Personally I'd sell him for £20mill - Kelly is more than adequate plus Coates. I think we could let him go and not significantly weaken the squad. All depends on where the extra cash will go though.

 

[Modo]

And then innocence gets protested.
If nothing else you are predictable Modo

Of course, come on. You think I'm evil?
hahahaha

 

[Modo]

Personally I'd sell him for £20mill - Kelly is more than adequate plus Coates. I think we could let him go and not significantly weaken the squad. All depends on where the extra cash will go though.

This is what I'm saying.

 

[Frogfish]

I've seen people describe Agger and Skrtel as the best centre back pairing we've had in a decade in a year where we've conceded 40 goals and finished eight.

We're not that far away from a number of years where we routinely allowed less than 30 goals against us in the league.

Sum of the parts. And for how many of those were S&A the starting partnership ? Carra has shown he is virtually done, back-up at best.

Since Sami left we haven't had a strong centre-back pairing and now at long last we have a stable partnership in the centre of our defence and people are suggesting we break it up for £20M. You don't mess with a strong spine and we are half way to building it.
We might (probably with our record) not be able to replace Skrtel and even if Coates were the man it'd still take a season at least to form a strong partnership with Agger, and another season out of the Top 4 would not go down well with Suarez, Pepe, Johnson and Agger et al.

 

[Frogfish]

Personally I'd sell him for £20mill - Kelly is more than adequate plus Coates. I think we could let him go and not significantly weaken the squad. All depends on where the extra cash will go though.

So a Kelly who has been consistently played at FB by successive managers and has virtually no PL experience of CB in the PL, plus a youngster yet to mark his mark, or prove he can handle a season as CB here, are more than adequate ? Pfff.

 

[gkmacca]

The suggestions on here suggest he's been dazzled with City's money, but if the agent's comments are actually true then I don't see Martin's doing anything other than the sensible thing in wanting to know what the new regime has planned for the club and him. He's in a good bargaining position, so that's what he's doing.

 

[Rosco]

Sum of the parts. And for how many of those were S&A the starting partnership ? Carra has shown he is virtually done, back-up at best.

Since Sami left we haven't had a strong centre-back pairing and now at long last we have a stable partnership in the centre of our defence and people are suggesting we break it up for £20M. You don't mess with a strong spine and we are half way to building it.
We might (probably with our record) not be able to replace Skrtel and even if Coates were the man it'd still take a season at least to form a strong partnership with Agger, and another season out of the Top 4 would not go down well with Suarez, Pepe, Johnson and Agger et al.

We don't have a strong spine. Keeping Agger and Skrtel isn't going to make us jump into the top four either. And we don't have the money to build a squad good enough for the top four any time soon.

We have an overrated spine because the defending in the Premiership was horrendous all year.

 

[Frogfish]

We don't have a strong spine. Keeping Agger and Skrtel isn't going to make us jump into the top four either. And we don't have the money to build a squad good enough for the top four any time soon.

We have an overrated spine because the defending in the Premiership was horrendous all year.

Pepe, Skrtel, Agger, Gerrard and Suarez is half way to a strong spine (as I said we are half way to it, I didn't say it was in place), Lucas and Carroll may become part of it.

I think your outlook on our chances is extremely pessimistic, this team can do much better than they did last season and a few auspicious transfers will only segment that potential.

 

[Modo]

We don't have a strong spine. Keeping Agger and Skrtel isn't going to make us jump into the top four either. And we don't have the money to build a squad good enough for the top four any time soon.

We have an overrated spine because the defending in the Premiership was horrendous all year.

Exactly we need the cash.

 

[Rosco]

Pepe, Skrtel, Agger, Gerrard and Suarez is half way to a strong spine (as I said we are half way to it, I didn't say it was in place), Lucas and Carroll may become part of it.

I think your outlook on our chances is extremely pessimistic, this team can do much better than they did last season and a few auspicious transfers will only segment that potential.

Pepe is on the slide. Gerrard hasn't had a good season for too long, he'll have his moments during a season but he's not going to be a regular contributor anymore. Agger is massively injury prone .

I think your outlook is bananas

 

[Modo]

Agger played a decent amount of games last season and made it through the Euro's. There's a small chance his injury problems are behind him.
But you're right our first XI seems strong on paper but in reality it's very vulnerable.
Last season we missed Lucas cause our only replacement was Spearing (a championship player at best).
What happens if Suarez gets a serious injury?
Our team is lacking in creativity and solving it should be our first priority this summer.
Like I said at least 2 new starters are needed as well as two decent replacements.

 

[Frogfish]

Pepe is on the slide. Gerrard hasn't had a good season for too long, he'll have his moments during a season but he's not going to be a regular contributor anymore. Agger is massively injury prone .

I think your outlook is bananas

Pepe has one poor season (by his standards) and he's on the slide ?

Gerrard has just shown you what he can still do, if the team are playing well and in the hunt he'll be proving the knockers wrong. I strongly believe he is a player who need inspiration to play at the top of his game.

Agger may or may not be injury prone (some players just go through 2-3 seasons of perpetual injuries) but your suggesting we also sell Skrtel makes it all the more inane if that is the case !

My outlook is realistic, for a good part of last season and for half the season before, we looked like Top 4 contenders.

 

[Rosco]

Froggie forgive me if I completely ignore your realism. It's slightly tempered by the fact that Shay Given put in his worst ever performances as a goalkeeper at age 3, which according to you not too long ago is the peak of a goalkeepers career.

Agger may or may not be injury prone .. ? are you for real. I may or may not be giggling like a school girl as a I type this. He plays about half of our games every year since he signed for us. Players don't get less injury prone as they get to their late twenties and then into their thirties.

I know what Gerrard can do, I know he can't do it week in week out. He'll do it four or five times a year and that's not even close to being good enough.

Reina is on the slide, it's obvious he's been getting slightly worse each year for the past three years. It's only when it appeared so obvious this year that people started realising it.

The core of our squad that you think are good enough have finished 6th, 7th, 8th in the past three seasons. We're not going to get much better by hanging onto them, so if stupid money is available to allow us to buy talented younger players then I'm all for it. Is it a risk ? yes. But it's a fucking certainty that this squad as it is currently is going fucking nowhere so I'd rather take a risk on building a title winning side than watch us drift aimlessly for a few more years by holding onto everybody,

 

[Fox]

[quote="Fabio, post: 747352, member: 371"]Id rather not sacrifice defensive stability for attack.

No doubt agger will pick up niggles again and coates will get his chance this season.

You seem more outlandish and wummy than normal modo. everything ok at home? Im genuinely not being sarcastic either.[/quote]

you are coming around to Hodgson's thinking there Fabio

I agree