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Sakho sent home from the States

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Klopp must've actually been seething in that Alcatraz clip where Sakho had the cheek to ask him how long he'd survive there lol
 
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/doubts-over-sakhos-future-after-11663197

There was probably something in that dig from Klopp that Mama should stay at Alcatraz because he was late for the bus or flight or something. I guess he made another infraction and Klopp decided that's enough. Not sure if it really throws his future into doubt (at least short-term), but it shows Klopp is big on discipline.

Sakho had some issue with Rodgers as well, didn't he? Left the stadium during the game or something like that and later had to apologize.
 
He's generally been seen as a good and popular member of the squad in the past. Maybe the fact he could't train or play meant that he had too much time on his hands and was distracting the other players. It certainly looked in that video as if he was constantly trying to be 'a bit of card'. Hopefully it's no more than that, but it's weird that someone who should be desperate to re-establish himself should be arsing about at all.
 
He's generally been seen as a good and popular member of the squad in the past. Maybe the fact he could't train or play meant that he had too much time on his hands and was distracting the other players. It certainly looked in that video as if he was constantly trying to be 'a bit of card'. Hopefully it's no more than that, but it's weird that someone who should be desperate to re-establish himself should be arsing about at all.

I'm not going to join in the speculation about what his 'attitude' could mean, because he's shown signs of truculence and also that 'joker' side before, but I certainly do agree with that last sentence.

Very odd, and a bit silly. Oh well.
 
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/doubts-over-sakhos-future-after-11663197

There was probably something in that dig from Klopp that Mama should stay at Alcatraz because he was late for the bus or flight or something. I guess he made another infraction and Klopp decided that's enough. Not sure if it really throws his future into doubt (at least short-term), but it shows Klopp is big on discipline.

Sakho had some issue with Rodgers as well, didn't he? Left the stadium during the game or something like that and later had to apologize.

He also had some issues at PSG. It was called a mental problem by the club. The media said he had a big attitude problem.
 
Well thats him not starting the season then. I do kinda get the impression Klopp doesn't rate him that highly, so I don't think he'll be here too long unless there's some miraculous change in form etc.

Klopp's comment the other day about Ragner spoke volumes about his intent, I'm not sure it was the greatest thing he could said out of respect for Lovren/Sakho though.
 
Well thats him not starting the season then. I do kinda get the impression Klopp doesn't rate him that highly, so I don't think he'll be here too long unless there's some miraculous change in form etc.

Klopp's comment the other day about Ragner spoke volumes about his intent, I'm not sure it was the greatest thing he could said out of respect for Lovren/Sakho though.
True Mark plus what will Ragner be like in the PL ? Klopp dont know that yet.
 
Well thats him not starting the season then. I do kinda get the impression Klopp doesn't rate him that highly, so I don't think he'll be here too long unless there's some miraculous change in form etc.

Klopp's comment the other day about Ragner spoke volumes about his intent, I'm not sure it was the greatest thing he could said out of respect for Lovren/Sakho though.

I read it as a veiled warning from Klopp to Sakho not to mess around, and get serious....
 
Can't see him starting for a little while now. Having a solid pre season and getting up to speed early etc has been a big thing for Klopp, so to send Sakho home and for him to miss the tour and a few games is a big slip down the pecking order for him.
 
Hopefully just an injury rehab thing, and nothing major beyond Sakho being bored.

I'll be disappointed if there's some sort of disconnect between Sakho and Klopp, they're probably two of the best personalities we have at the club.
 
He also had some issues at PSG. It was called a mental problem by the club. The media said he had a big attitude problem.

Indeed. It was mentioned when he made the move from PSG to us. 3 years on and that aspect haven't seem to improve.

http://www.espnfcasia.com/club/pari...1852629/sakho-exit-from-psg-a-complicated-one
[article]However, despite those traits making Sakho a potential world-class defender, the Frenchman has some character flaws that were eventually too severe to overcome in Paris.

His attitude, a lack of discipline including poor dieting habits and fractious relationships with certain members of staff, particularly in the early days, put his future at the club in jeopardy a long time ago.
Many of his coaches were unhappy with his unprofessional demeanour, peaking with a nasty altercation with a journalist regarding his social habits, and PSG actually almost got rid of him as a teenager. However, at that time Sakho focused enough on his football to stay, although he arguably never embraced being a true professional.

That is perhaps why Ancelotti stripped him of the captaincy, despite the other obvious problems that making a 21-year-old captain creates. The club assumed that it was inevitable that he would eventually lead the side and do so for a long time, so why not prepare him for the role early by handing him the captaincy early?

That lack of professionalism, combined with the pressure of being a leader at such a tender age, had a terrible effect on Sakho though. He immediately started playing within himself, totally devoid of the confidence that had previously made him seem indestructible. Once the club realised that the responsibility was crushing their young star, Ancelotti had to make the difficult decision to remove him from the captaincy.

No longer PSG's most outstanding talent, Sakho struggled in the face of the new arrivals at the club after QSI's arrival. At the start of Ancelotti's reign, Alex joined from Chelsea as a direct rival for the central defensive berth alongside Milan Bisevac who spent less than 12 months in Paris. Even by this point early Qatari signing Diego Lugano was sinking without a trace.

Sakho also had to deal with criticism from within the hierarchy; sporting director Leonardo remarking that he was "a bit overweight" when asked why he wasn't featuring in the first team towards the end of the 2011-12 season. Then PSG managed to snare Brazil captain Thiago Silva from AC Milan at high cost, meaning there was realistically only one place in the side that he could now expect to occupy.

The Brazilian added to the competition for places that included his compatriot Alex and old stagers Sylvain Armand and Zoumana Camara who were viewed as the elder statesmen of the side. Sakho now found himself as the third choice in the centre of defence, surrounded by players vastly more experienced, and crucially more serious than he was.

When he was PSG's star, not only was he exempt from criticism when it perhaps would have done him some good, but he was staunchly defended by the club and especially the fans. But because of the comfort zone that had been created for him, he cried out in public instead of doing his talking on the pitch and in training. Now he had influential coaches such as Claude Makelele calling his complaints about competition for places "childish".

Earlier this summer, Marquinhos joined the club for 35 million Euros, heightening Sakho's anxiety. But when it became obvious in preseason that Blanc still saw a future at the club for Alex, who had been expected to make way for a Silva-Sakho partnership, it effectively made him fourth choice.

Sakho is and surely was a better option, in terms of pure talent, than Alex. But it can be no coincidence that Ancelotti and Blanc both chose to prefer an all-Brazilian Silva-Alex partnership knowing Sakho's situation and value to the club. As cumbersome as he may be, the former Chelsea man is simply more reliable and contributes towards a serene presence at the back alongside Silva.

There have been suggestions that Alex is preferred alongside the Selecao captain because he speaks Portuguese. It is not exactly true, but there may be some sense to it as Alex and Marquinhos are both Brazilian, and Silva's French still leaves a lot to be desired. But the underlying belief is that neither Ancelotti nor Blanc rated Sakho as serious or reliable enough to lead PSG to the glory they seek.

The harsh reality is that, despite how massively talented Sakho is, he had not developed in the two years since he was handed the bumper new contract and captaincy in 2011, making him one of France's best-paid players, before Qatar Sports Investments arrived. He has not regressed, but he has also not evolved into the player that so many predicted that he would become two years ago. That is largely down to his loveable, but at times debilitating immaturity.

In essence, he needs to grow up. The move to Liverpool could be perfect for that, and if he does then the Reds have some genuine leadership material on their hands.

PSG fans defended Sakho as passionately as they could, and still do in the wake of his move, because he is one of them. The club, to their credit, also gave him all the time they possibly could afford to, being more patient with domestic talent than any other European club in a similar situation. But the 23-year-old just could not mend his ways enough to convince both Ancelotti and Blanc, or the PSG hierarchy, that he was more than a squad player going into the future.[/article]
 
Hopefully just an injury rehab thing, and nothing major beyond Sakho being bored.

I'll be disappointed if there's some sort of disconnect between Sakho and Klopp, they're probably two of the best personalities we have at the club.
Yeah I'm not too sure if there is anything in this at all. Sakho is injured and maybe it was felt he would be better off at Melwood. Let's see how/if this develops or if Klopp says anything. Manna from heaven for the Sakho haters though.
 
Good stuff.
Hopefully his attitude will achieve that which the ban failed to and get him out of this club already.
 
Well thats him not starting the season then. I do kinda get the impression Klopp doesn't rate him that highly, so I don't think he'll be here too long unless there's some miraculous change in form etc.

Klopp's comment the other day about Ragner spoke volumes about his intent, I'm not sure it was the greatest thing he could said out of respect for Lovren/Sakho though.

He's injured anyway and was due to miss the first month at least
 
So is Lucas and Gomez but they're still at the training camp.

True, but Mark said he wouldn't be starting the season, the point I made was he wasn't going to anyway as he's injured. It's another issue whether he/they are injured and are staying/leaving the training camp
 
What about Lovren?

Possibly.
However, from the rumours of Lovren becoming captain, it seems that ppl in the club see him as a leader. Maybe Klopp has expressed solid confidence in Lovren during training etc. He might even be ahead of Matip.

I just get the feeling Sakho has been on the thin ice since the fatburner incident, and that this is known within the squad.
 
All the articles say pretty much the same thing which can't be a coincidence. It doesn't bode well for his future

I can't see how we can sell him at the moment, although Bournemouth might give us 50m for him.
 
I got the impression in that alcatraz video that LFC had given him the camera given it was edited by the club. Klopp did make a big point about him being late and when we are now not short on CBs, and have a guy who should be desperate to make up for his end of season infractions it is probably the right thing to do.

Mama should be pulling out all the stops and has no excuses for being unfit so if JK isn't happy with fitness or application then simple decision.
 
All the articles say pretty much the same thing which can't be a coincidence. It doesn't bode well for his future

I can't see how we can sell him at the moment, although Bournemouth might give us 50m for him.

Articles are not nice reading at all
 
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